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Would we be able to stop Rio being such a transfer muppet though? That's the real question.
Rio was also said to be excellent with the younger players.
Would we be able to stop Rio being such a transfer muppet though? That's the real question.
I always thought that Scholes could stay in the club and be a couch of central midfielders or midfielders generally, than someone like Rio could be a coach of defenders and so on, having specialist who has massive experience and is a legend in a club could help to develop a lot of great players and iron their flaws but perhaps it works like this and Giggs and other parts of the coaching stuff do that however dont think Giggs is always around to give tips to wingers when he has other job to do as assistant manager. All in all Rio would be fantastic addition to the coaching staff even if he didn't work as "special coach for defenders" don't think mourinho means it this way anyway. No doubt he will have a big influence on kids, he has this aura around him of a winner and natural respect combining with his pranks.. bring him in
I just don't know why he's been such an arse about us lately. It's like he wants to show he's not biased towards us but I'm starting to believe he has really developed a genuine hatred towards the club.
I just don't know why he's been such an arse about us lately. It's like he wants to show he's not biased towards us but I'm starting to believe he has really developed a genuine hatred towards the club.
Or maybe these are just his opinions. It's not like he's alone I thinking what he says.
He works for the BBC.Isn't that Shamoon whatever person a known bullshitter?
Ferdinand being back at the club would explain a bit. I felt his tweets have been a little too giddy over the Mourinho appointment. This would explain why
"If United fans say I had a decent career, then brilliant,".
"If they want to say, 'What's gone on with Ferguson stuff?' then f*** them".
A supposed legend of the club. He's been bitter and it's more than just Fergie.
Ahh, fell for the sensationalized heading of the link, just read it now.Bitter fan in being bitter against bitter Roy Keane, who says Mourinho is a winner United need.....The irony
It's easier for jose to approach rio since he's not content on being a manager. No conflict of interest and potential drama.
Need everyone to be focused
Ahh, fell for the sensationalized heading of the link, just read it now.
Disagree. It's not always the license, paper qualification that matters. Rio was one of our captains, higher in the pecking order than Scholes and Giggs. He may not be a good coach, but he is easy going and well connected with players, Mourinho and his staffs can take care of the technical detail of tactic, training... SAF has good eye for his captains, leadership. Rio can act as good bridge between fans, players and Mourinho even without coaching quality at the worst case. Scholes, Giggs despite being United through and through lacks the charisma as leaders. Rio has been with different coaches, clubs during his playing career that also a bonus. Gary Neville, Giggs Scholes can spout United way all day as it's the only way they know, but that's not helpful for players transferred from different clubs, with different background. There would be an invisible barrier between the through and through United players and recruited players. Rio would be better bridge in this scenario. Didn't Ronaldo say in an interview he didn't talk with Giggs outside of training and matches? Rio bonded well with almost everyone.Not trying to bring Rio down but what qualifications does he actually have? Has been studying or taking up any licenses while being a pundit? If we want to bring him back let him work with the academy and learn his trade there. Then in a few tears can work on the first team. We need actual professional on our coaching staff. Mourinho knows more than I do so hey, any decision is a win win.
Keane is a lot of things but, the whole "decent career" thing...He's a very humble and self critical man. Read his book, it's like he's talking to his therapist.
As for him and Fergie. Both of them are pig ignorant shits, as much as I love them. Fergie continued to employee a secretary he hated, at St. Mirren, purely so he could make a point of not talking to her and that's not a joke Keane is just as bad
EDIT: He's a season ticket holder ffs, him and his children. How bitter does one have to be to buy season ticket to something they hate? Keane loves United. He hates Fergie. That's it!
That's what I find interesting. Fergie, as much as I love him, was as much of a cnut as Mourinho is, maybe even more. Yet some of our fans don't want Mourinho on the basis that he is an undignified jerk.Yep. He continued it for six months and only communicated through insults apparently. All read out in court etc.
Shouldn't laugh but,
"Good morning Mr Ferguson!"
"BITCH! TART!"
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/mou...ially-announced.417648/page-110#post-19254810I'm curious to see what Twiggi thinks of Sir Alex.
Actually those goal numbers in England are nothing outstanding. His average at Chelsea is about 70 goals per season. Under SAF we were regularly scoring in the mid 70s and often well into the 80s. The best United teams under SAF were scoring well into the 80s whereas the highest a Jose managed team in England has managed is 73.
I mean I don't see what's so controversial in saying that Jose is a defense first coach. Its his style.
Good thing for Jose is that after watching VG football, even Jose football will seem like free flowing attacking football to the fans.
I hope this is true and Rio accepts. He wasn't overly critical of LVG reign, his opinion was spot on unlike someone. The young players seem to love him too.
That's exactly my point. We were the top dogs in 99, with a young team that was only going to improve further... Even so, we could easily have improved on Ronny Johnsen, Berg, and Irwin who were all in their late-20s, and early-30s. We had a quality midfield and attack but the latter, in terms of individual talent, was never on a par with the glamour sides of Italy and Spain at the time. The only area where we were undisputedly brilliant was midfield, but even so, the true glamour players that played those positions were largely playing for other teams.
2001 was too little, too late. It was more like a rebuild/retooling of a squad that was getting left behind in Europe, than adding the cherry on top of the cake which is what we should have been doing in 99.
2008 was infuriating, and it just seemed like we never learnt from our mistakes in 99. Fergie did amazingly well to get us challenging the very top with the squad he had, but it's that same thrifty attitude that he had then, that has caused us to fall by the wayside with the bones of a squad which has now been proven to be lacking in talent in crucial areas of the pitch.
I think if Jose ever gets us in the position of Champions League winners, he won't be making the same mistakes. It just doesn't seem to be in his character to sit back, ever.
Yup, same.Still hasn't sunk it that he's our boss. Anyone else?
Wasn't there a rumor in the Moyes days that Rio was leaking information to the press? This could cause trouble with Jose if true.
Anyways, would love to see rio back. He loves the club and he's a winner.
Well, coaching would be a piece of p!ss to him. All he'd need to say to the defenders is "think to yourself, what would Jags do?"Yeah, apparently he leaked our lineups to a Mirror journalist.
Would love to see Rio here in some capacity. He's already a very good ambassador for United.
What I really want Mourinho to bring back to the club is some Fight and guts. I know many people identify United to counter attack , attacking football and style ,however for me United was always about the Fight.
2-0 down, 3-0 down first half , the opposition would still be in doubt because its United who are down , and you can never ever write them off. 10 points behind, 12 points behind and still we would never be written off. This is the true and the perfect identity of our club.
We have had some matches where we have had people like park , nevielle etc in the midfield fighting for every ball and giving their all just to cling on to the slender lead, not even close to playing football with swagger and hardly playing adventurous attacking football ( a game against arsenals invincibles comes to mind ), i don't remember anyone complaining of boring football that day , everyone enjoyed the win and were proud of the performance. I also remember Fergie starting as many englishmen or local manchester players in the derby because he knew that game would require fight rather than an attacking exhibition. Fergie for one knew the true identity of the club and always stuck to it.
This is exactly what i want Jose to bring to the club- FIGHT and PASSION and he will. You can see how he celebrates his goals and wins, this surely rubs on to the team and will also fire them up. LVG failed because he felt on the field he cannot really change much. Jose would know that a simple show of agression on the touchline will fire people up.
I hear some people complain that Jose will make all our attackers track back like how Hazard was used. Well i for one will be happy if this is the case. You cant win football games with only one quality- attack , you need players to learn doing the dirty job because its not always that the game will turn out as expected, but once you make winning a habit (playing however), this will create the Fight, because habits are not easy to let go .Doing this also develops a players because now there is more respect and accountability around in the team because everyone understands how hard the other player it trying to make sure everyone wins.
I am also extremely glad that Rio is being mentioned to join. Rio was always a winner like giggs but personality wise they bring different qualities to the dressing room. Being a defender , Rio will bring fire , fight and determination to the party , some passion and fight much needed and will also be of great help to Smalling and the other young guns. If we are able to add some creating talent to this team i would be very excited for our chances. Bring on Pep.