It means that, for him, unity is everything: players have to be prepared to give everything to win; staff in general must back him and the club in all matters; no public grumbling when people are discontented (i.e. players who get dropped/not selected etc).
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I genuinely don't believe our league is set up particularly well to create Champions League winners.
The money domestically means the league is hugely competitive from the lower middle up. This means fewer games to roll over opposition and ease off or rest players.
The competition for the top four and champions league qualification that earns so much means that from February onwards every single point counts and that means difficult decisions are made for the weekend/midweek team selections.
Stylistically, producing a team that is successful in the league does not produce a team that is set up to do well in the champions league. The league is about forcing the 3 points whereas the champions league is more of a chess match with patience a key attribute.
The Christmas period and January in our league is a time for exhaustion, burnout and muscle injuries as fatigue and cold temperatures take their victims with a flurry of league matches and domestic cup fixtures build up. On the continent it's time for rejuvenation and warm weather breaks to Dubai as players prepare themselevs for the run in.
Pexy: Yeah, we don't help ourselves in that respect; both the FA and the PL don't have a vested interest in Premier League teams doing well in Europe.
Think he means taking people with him to a war as his allies. To fight alongside him.
Thanks.
It's incredibly short sighted. Success in Europe and continental/intercontinental competitions raise profile of the league and attract better players. The pundits always lament best players going to Spain. No shit, they want to play for the CL winners.
Still boil my piss the way we had to drop the FA Cup in 2000 to play CWC.
Can you call me Hammy from now on?
99 I say we did try and build on, pending it took us until 2001 to do that, 2008 was what really pissed me off, what was our reaction to winning the CL? trying to keep ronaldo, and we sign berbatov, I was like really? that is our major signing, berbatov. And after that, we lose ronaldo and tevez, sign owen, obertov and diouf. 2008 was when we looked like we could finally up the numbers in our CL record, what will happen? we will have a bigger CL drought 2008 present, than our 99-08 drought, because the club made so many error's from 2008-16 we are paying the ultimate price
Very controversial on here,but I have always believed that Madrid have always been more attractive than us.
Even in 2009 with them not having gotten past the last 16 of the UCL ,and we on the back of two finals ,our best player Still chose them.
Could you imagine that happening to us if the roles were reversed. Madrid seem to consistently treat managers and players badly,yet they can't keep falling over themselves to join them . It's simply amazing. Ancelotti was unceremoniously sacked after winning the European cup ,yet a few months later was saying he would love to go back.
They also signed Barca's best player in 2000. There's just something about their pull. They have always been able to sign top 10 in the world players. Other clubs don't,including us.
Ronaldo was always going to go to Spain. Let's not forget who he rejected when he left Sporting for United.
That's exactly my point. We were the top dogs in 99, with a young team that was only going to improve further... Even so, we could easily have improved on Ronny Johnsen, Berg, and Irwin who were all in their late-20s, and early-30s. We had a quality midfield and attack but the latter, in terms of individual talent, was never on a par with the glamour sides of Italy and Spain at the time. The only area where we were undisputedly brilliant was midfield, but even so, the true glamour players that played those positions were largely playing for other teams.
2001 was too little, too late. It was more like a rebuild/retooling of a squad that was getting left behind in Europe, than adding the cherry on top of the cake which is what we should have been doing in 99.
2008 was infuriating, and it just seemed like we never learnt from our mistakes in 99. Fergie did amazingly well to get us challenging the very top with the squad he had, but it's that same thrifty attitude that he had then, that has caused us to fall by the wayside with the bones of a squad which has now been proven to be lacking in talent in crucial areas of the pitch.
I think if Jose ever gets us in the position of Champions League winners, he won't be making the same mistakes. It just doesn't seem to be in his character to sit back, ever.
I don't disagree with that tbh, but we could and should have used that 80m much better than we did. When he left, I still remember I had a wishlist of De Rossi, Ribery and a striker (which I think was Benzema, but can't be sure) which would have sent out a real statement of intent to everyone and would have improved us as a team, Ronaldo or no Ronaldo... Instead, we went down the bargain bucket route. It didn't impact us majorly in the short term due to Fergie's genius, but we can now see the legacy that thriftiness has left in the three years since 2013.
Madrid have always been a more attractive proposition. In my opinion, the glazers or Fergie have to take a fair bit of the blame for our downfall. It depends if what Fergie says about always having money to spend is true. I simply don't believe it.
The lack of investment in the squad post 2009 was criminal in my book. We lost Ronaldo and Tevez that summer, who did we bring in? Tony, Owen and fecking Obertan. The gap between us and the top tier clubs started growing that summer as far as I'm concerned. Fergie got the best out of his players, they were his but the club let the squad deteriorate.
We did not sign a single midfielder between 2008 and 2013 ffs!
We have left ourselves in a position where we are playing catch up, having to buy so many players at a time. Mistakes in the transfer market with the volume of players we have turned over in the last few years was always inevitable.
We started to invest heavily in 2014. It was already too late. As the squad had already fallen off a cliff. IMO, the summer of 2010 was the one we really should have gone for it.
The lack of investment in the squad post 2009 was criminal in my book. We lost Ronaldo and Tevez that summer, who did we bring in? Tony, Owen and fecking Obertan. The gap between us and the top tier clubs started growing that summer as far as I'm concerned. Fergie got the best out of his players, they were his but the club let the squad deteriorate.
We did not sign a single midfielder between 2008 and 2013 ffs!
We have left ourselves in a position where we are playing catch up, having to buy so many players at a time. Mistakes in the transfer market with the volume of players we have turned over in the last few years was always inevitable.
We started to invest heavily in 2014. It was already too late. As the squad had already fallen off a cliff. IMO, the summer of 2010 was the one we really should have gone for it.
Yeah I can see. I mean even if we'd have got Robben when we sold them Ronaldo, it would have been interesting. This is the problem when you have opportunists in charge of the club. It's ok when it's stable but they destabilize it once the managers gone because they don't know what they are doing. We should have scouted better players. It's remiss of the club. Even the Pogba situation was a nonsense but he's got a cnut for an agent so what can we do. I felt we underspent against last summer - especially when you consider who we let go. Jose is a buying manager so let's see if they back him properly.
Yeah, Jose gives me hope that we will finally be back on track now. For the first time since Fergie, we have someone who knows what he's doing, and Jose usually picks out the right player. Like I said, if we ever get to a position of Champions league winners under Jose, I don't think we'll make those mistakes again.
I was almost depressed that summer. It wasn't just Ronaldo, also Tevez. Two world class players. How did we replace them? Spending a combined £20m. Earlier in that summer we were heavily linked with Benzema, Robben and Ribery. The damage would have been considerably less if we got any two of those players.
The club basically abandoned any idea of competing for top tier players, we became obsessed with "finding a bargain". And you always get what you paid for.
We didn't even invest a single penny in our midfield in Fergie's last 6 years.
The club is still paying for it today. It's easier to strengthen when you are on top. That's what Bayern, Raeal and Barca are what they are. We didn't now we are having to almost bribe top players to consider us.
That's exactly it. And the both times we got to the top of the tree in modern times, we didn't do this. I mean, even Chelsea when they won the Champions League got Hazard. We just became far too complacent.
The single biggest reason why I'm looking forward to Jose's tenure is that he's not a yes man. It will be his way or no way. And it's that which will drag us into modern times, kicking and screaming if need be.
Can't stand the cnuts, I hate their players, I hate their politics, I hate their arrogance and mostly how they always hover over our players like vultures instead of developing their own talents.
I'm not fond of Barca either, but I can at least respect their work with youth and the fact they're often deserving champions unlike Reals jammy showing.
I'm not fond of Barca either, but I can at least respect their work with youth and the fact they're often deserving champions unlike Reals jammy showing.
Sir Alex and Sir Bobby have been awfully quiet about this appointment. Wonder what they think.
I doubt they will come and say they hate Mourinho. I think Ferguson actually likes him and they get on.
Couldn't agree more with this and even though the Christmas football period is my favourite there needs to be a break in the premiership for English clubs to compete fully in Europe.
Yes, they always spoke very highly of each other when Mourinho was at Chelsea. There didn't seem to be any problem between them at all.
The season's over, there's no football to be played until pre-season. Why would they say anything?
Ed Woodwad has released a message on behalf of the club and the board as part of his role.
There's no reason for them to say anything.
Couldn't agree more, especially when city started building their team signing Yaya, Silva, Aguero etc, it was criminal and negligent or complacent or both!
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Fans overrate their clubs. Glaston think that Spurs are as big as United, we think that United is as big as Real, etc etc.
Anyone see the article about Koeman giving out about how we treated LVG. We treated him quite well imo seeing as though most managers in his position would have been sacked months previously.
This. A two week break after January FA Cup games would be great.
Yeah I saw that. Interesting to see Koeman stand up for his 'rival' which was kind of nice but he pulled a shocker when he said 'we didn't deserve the FA cup medal for the way we treated him.' Everyone wishes it was handled better and Woodward is looking like a fool right now, but to say we don't deserve our cup win as a result of this is very bitter. It was the 14 players that represented us that day that worked their socks off and earned the cup, they had nothing to do with the mishandled management saga and for Koeman to dismiss our players' efforts because of it is very poor. He needs to be very careful with what he says in the future, because when you play Mourinho in the media there is only one winner.
I wonder if people would have said anything if we'd sacked him at the end of December.
So he got sacked after winning the FA cup. Big deal. We're Man Utd, not Wigan.
You don't need to be an Abu to call Mourinho a defensive manager.
Wonder what SAF and Sir Bobby think of it btw
Always wondered how he got the defensive park the bus label when his sides have wound up with a good number of goals and points.
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