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How do feel about José Mourinho's appointment as Man Utd manager?


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Anything better or equal to top 4 would be good in the first season. LvG will claim to have lowered expectations ready for him and he should be thankful.

Mourinho has already said to forget the past three years. He is here to win.

I'm expecting a title challenge. The players we have really aren't as bad as have been made out this past season, IMO.

We should expect a title challenge. The manager expects it, so why shouldn't we?

You are right about the squad. It is better than has been made out, Lou Macari made that point on MUTV yesterday. Should we have been beaten at home to Norwich with our squad? Should we have failed to get three points against the worst Newcastle side for years with our squad? Should we have been meekly beaten at Sunderland with our squad? Should we have surrendered at West Brom as we did with this squad?

The players we have are far better than they showed last season. The stories about their unhappiness at Louis Van Gaal's mad methods make it easy to see why he failed to get them playing. Mourinho won't fail like Van Gaal did.
 
Nope. They have never shown that they are interested on getting significant dividends from the club. The plan all along was making the value of the club high and then when needed sell stocks. Even under Moyes, we offered more than Madrid to Bale, so the Moyes was the cheap option makes sense only in 'Glazers are evil and we hate Glazers so they are to blame for everything, but because we know that Fergie made this choice, we have to make something up even if it goes against any fact' agenda.

Em. Ok. Haven't they withdrawn tons from the club? No?
 
I think we need to bensure realistic. This is not a title contending side
 
Is there a reason there aren't any more pictures/interviews so far?
 
Is there a reason there aren't any more pictures/interviews so far?

MUTV did a 3 minute interview yesterday thats all we need apparently.

They're more interested in having yet another phone-in with Lou Macari and seeing what Keith from Wilmslow or John from Cambridge have to say on events.
 
I think our Midfield is the area who suffered most under LVG. Obviously we didn't score goals, but we see the quality in Martial/Rashford and potential quality in Memphis. Schneiderlin is much better than he played last season and Herrera (I'm a softie for him so maybe I'm wrong) clearly has more skill than LVG let him show. We're a winger, a CB, and a striker away from mounting a title challenge. I don't think we'll win it next season barring incredible signings in those areas, but we're not as far off as this season looked.

Especially with clubs like City and Chelsea looking like they'll have similar if not bigger rebuilds than us. Hell apparently Pep wants 8 new players to start for City.
 
I agree @devilish. That's the point I'm making. Strange that some can't see the Glazers (wrongly) thought Moyes made financial sense.

The glazers wouldn't have known that Everton let alone moyes existed. Why would they? They are not football fans. They asked guidance to their football directors and they got it. Charlton and saf aren't there for cheerleading. Once they failed they starting having doubts on the football people and relying more on woody. Since woody failed too they are probably flirted with the idea of dof

Saf himself said that they don't mess with football decisions
 
Intrigued to see how Mourinho does at the club. Many reasons this is probably his toughest test and will really show how good a manager he really is. Hope his intelligence means he has learnt from his time in Madrid and second period at Chelsea as for me the Mourinho the last five years isnt the same manager he was before.
If he tries to impose his style/philosophy of football on the club and is as brash and trouble making as before, he may still win trophies but he will fail. Ferguson was the master of mind games and man management. Mourinho needs to adapt his brash way of doing mind games. He IS a better tactitian than Ferguson, as good if not better than Guardiola, but if he is to become a great at the club he needs to be able to adapt his tactics to the Unites way and adapt some of his apparent man management skills, especially with the youngsters. He strikes me as extremely intelligent, and is certainly a winner.... can he adapt to the club rather than the club having to adapt to him, which was LVGS big failure, we shall see.
 
The glazers wouldn't have known that Everton let alone moyes existed. Why would they? They are not football fans. They asked guidance to their football directors and they got it. Charlton and saf aren't there for cheerleading. Once they failed they starting having doubts on the football people and relying more on woody. Since woody failed too they are probably flirted with the idea of dof

Saf himself said that they don't mess with football decisions

You are joking? Aren't you. Dev I'll be honest I ain't able to get into this now. But I don't agree.
 
Interesting article by Andy Dunn in the Mirror, the main thrust of the story after he made it clear Mourinho shafted LvG, was that United will have to take a back seat because it will all be about Mourinho now, and if it lasts more than three years it'll be a miracle.

I'm not sure myself, Mourinho must know he needs to adjust slightly now, after all this is the job he always wanted, and more than likely he must know that after this job his options will be limited unless he wants to go over old ground again, I may end up disappointed but I think we will see a different Jose at United.
 
You are joking? Aren't you. Dev I'll be honest I ain't able to get into this now. But I don't agree.

. I know of italian football fanatics who don't know who moyes or Everton are. Robinho signed for shitty thinking he signed for us because he didnt knew that there where 2 clubs in manchester. Can you blame the glazers for being equally ignorant on the matter?

The glazers are business men who moved into a sport they don't understand in simply because they felt that they could exploit the area they do understand in (ie sponsorship)

I believe that the glazers asked saf for assistance on the matter and he gave them moyes name. Come to think about it it made great sense to them. They trusted a goose who had been producing golden eggs for the past 30 years. Why should they doubt him?

Let me give you an example. If you are interested in a painting which is a bargain and a world class art critic you trust come to you and tells you to buy this painting cause it's a picasso would you buy it?
 
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A lot of these supposed facts with Mourinho, the youth, the "3rd season" syndrome, the "dour" football, the he'll only be there for 2 years and then pout off.

Will be good to break a couple of those in his spell with us.
 
Interesting article by Andy Dunn in the Mirror, the main thrust of the story after he made it clear Mourinho shafted LvG, was that United will have to take a back seat because it will all be about Mourinho now, and if it lasts more than three years it'll be a miracle.

I'm not sure myself, Mourinho must know he needs to adjust slightly now, after all this is the job he always wanted, and more than likely he must know that after this job his options will be limited unless he wants to go over old ground again, I may end up disappointed but I think we will see a different Jose at United.

Isn't Dunn a scouser? If so then I wouldn't take anything he says about us even remotely seriously. If I'm mixing him and he isn't actually a scouser, then I apologise to him for my error, but basically the same applies - a football hack's opinion is utterly meaningless.
 
Isn't Dunn a scouser? If so then I wouldn't take anything he says about us even remotely seriously. If I'm mixing him and he isn't actually a scouser, then I apologise to him for my error, but basically the same applies - a football hack's opinion is utterly meaningless.

Yes he's a scouser, he does come across ok on The Sunday Supplement though, but his point is just the general sound bite amongst most journos right now, convinced he'll win us something, convinced he'll get up to his usual tricks, and convinced it'll last three years max.

Jose is an intelligent man and if this is how it plays out then maybe that's how he wants things to happen, but for me he'll be different this time, for the simple reason this is the job he has tried so hard to get, and he'll want to be here for as long as possible.
 
I think our Midfield is the area who suffered most under LVG. Obviously we didn't score goals, but we see the quality in Martial/Rashford and potential quality in Memphis.

How so? He has to be one of the most limited players I have seen. He has shown absolutely nothing - nothing - to suggest he is talented, let alone the sort of calibre we need on the wings.
 
Really looking forward to the transfer window to be able to see how strong we are on paper compared to our rivals. Mourinho is a great manager but we can't expect miracles without strengthening our wings and back 4.
 
Would really love to know if he has spoken to Fergie and what Fergie's real thoughts are.
 
Has anyone alluded to the fact that, of the 10 people he's following on instagram, 3 are Kane, Pogba and Ibrahimovic?
 
Has anyone alluded to the fact that, of the 10 people he's following on instagram, 3 are Kane, Pogba and Ibrahimovic?
Those three, a winger and a defender and we're set for domination :drool:

Feck we would be close already with those three alone.
 
Mourinho doesn't tick all of United's boxes, but he ticks the biggest and most important one at the moment.....................winner!
 
Yes he's a scouser, he does come across ok on The Sunday Supplement though, but his point is just the general sound bite amongst most journos right now, convinced he'll win us something, convinced he'll get up to his usual tricks, and convinced it'll last three years max.

Insightful journalism really. Struggle to get anything concrete as actual quotes so instead just write an opinion piece based on historical events. Takes real insight and consideration to say "everything that happened before will happen again".

I also don't buy the 'Mourinho screwed LVG' nonsense. What exactly was he meant to do when United, his dream job for the last decade, came knocking? Say "no, thanks, I'm going to have a spell at Everton until the memory of Louis has passed, then I'll give it shot before I retire..."?!?
 
I think this was the right hire - if Pochettino couldn't be gotten - but I am a bit concerned that Mourinho didn't rate Filipe Luis and De Bruyne who might both get into a world 23, since I can't think of a better LB backup for Alaba, except maybe Alba or Marcelo who are both defensively a bit inconsistent, and De Bruyne is basically fighting Ozil to be the best full-time 10 since James has been marginalized at Real.

I know people have discussed Mourinho choosing Oscar over De Bruyne and a super old Ivanovic (!) over Filipe Luis (with Azpilicueta playing his natural right side) but christ do they look like bad decisions.
 
Insightful journalism really. Struggle to get anything concrete as actual quotes so instead just write an opinion piece based on historical events. Takes real insight and consideration to say "everything that happened before will happen again".
There's worse examples of that kind of thinking around:

Guardian said:
José Mourinho is seen as a route to title but 128 years of history are against him

As Mourinho arrives at Manchester United, he has to buck a trend in English football where only four managers have won the league with more than one club:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/may/27/jose-mourinho-manchester-united-title-history
 
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