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Why did he try so hard to not stay in bound?
AT&T Stadium may be falling apart, like the Cowboys season has.
https://www.fox4news.com/news/metal-falls-from-att-stadium-roof-before-dallas-cowboys-game
No worries, our next president will have Mexico pay for it.Sounds like a perfect excuse to ask for more tax incentives by the Cowboys bc billionaires don't pay their own shit if they don't have to.
Or at least award a government contract for it and have that money disappear into the pockets of unqualified buddy contractors and donations for it in the pocket of Steve Bannon. Perfect.No worries, our next president will have Mexico pay for it.
Typical Mike McCarthy coaching masterclass.Might not be the best idea in pro football to let Cooper Rush throw it 55 times
It's 4am in Dallas so there's still time but he shouldn't make it past today if we're being honest. Undoubtedly will, though.Typical Mike McCarthy coaching masterclass.
To me, Watson hands down. They knew what he was when they signed him, and I couldn't be happier that it worked out the way it did. Browns fans remind me of Jets fans. They freak out over the shiny new QB and plan their Superbowl trip only to have their hopes crushed by week 3.Which was the worse contract at the time of signature?
Daniel Jones: 4 years, 160.000.000$, 82.000.000$ guaranteed
or
Deshaun Watson: 5 years, 230.000.000$, all guaranteed
While Watson obviously has the insane complete guarantee and is a gigantic tool, he at least did play like a pro bowl calibre QB at one point in time.
Jones‘ contract isn’t as bad, but on the other hand, he never ever came close to looking like a pro bowl QB and was, even at his very best, bang average. So unlike with Watson, there really was no reason to believe he could ever justify the money.
I’m leaning slightly to Jones. Simply because Watson was a good QB at one time.
At the time of signature, Watson looked like a 1st tier QB the last we had seen him and Jones just looked...like, I don't know, a valuable fantasy asset.Which was the worse contract at the time of signature?
Daniel Jones: 4 years, 160.000.000$, 82.000.000$ guaranteed
or
Deshaun Watson: 5 years, 230.000.000$, all guaranteed
While Watson obviously has the insane complete guarantee and is a gigantic tool, he at least did play like a pro bowl calibre QB at one point in time.
Jones‘ contract isn’t as bad, but on the other hand, he never ever came close to looking like a pro bowl QB and was, even at his very best, bang average. So unlike with Watson, there really was no reason to believe he could ever justify the money.
I’m leaning slightly to Jones. Simply because Watson was a good QB at one time.
Which was the worse contract at the time of signature?
Daniel Jones: 4 years, 160.000.000$, 82.000.000$ guaranteed
or
Deshaun Watson: 5 years, 230.000.000$, all guaranteed
While Watson obviously has the insane complete guarantee and is a gigantic tool, he at least did play like a pro bowl calibre QB at one point in time.
Jones‘ contract isn’t as bad, but on the other hand, he never ever came close to looking like a pro bowl QB and was, even at his very best, bang average. So unlike with Watson, there really was no reason to believe he could ever justify the money.
I’m leaning slightly to Jones. Simply because Watson was a good QB at one time.
Plus the Brown's gamble pushed out Baker, who's now doing pretty great at Tampa.Watson every day for me. His contract massively reset the QB market for guarantees. And the compensation given up to acquire him was also costly. The league should not have permitted any contract talks nor trade talks with all his legal woes ongoing and probable suspension looming, let alone the first year contract language knowing a suspension was likely. And he had sat out a full year so there was no way to determine if he'd return to prior form, plus fitting in a new system and with a much bigger spotlight per the contract and his sexual predation. Watson should have lost his job during this season before the injury but I firmly suspect there was upstairs pressure. He's going to kill their cap the next two years at $73m cap hit per year barring them kicking the can down the road again with restructuring. They have to retain him for 2025 or face a $172.77m dead cap hit, or $99.835m in 2026. Cleveland is fecked either way.
In fairness to Jones, despite a shit contract decision by the Giants which was arguably the 2023 market rate for a starting caliber QB (and still with possible upside), he had come off a 2022 season in which he ranked 1st in INT%, t-5th in CMP%, and 6th in QBR, in a system that wasn't much of a high volume passing scheme as reflected in his pedestrian passing yards and TD totals and advanced metrics. He was the epitome of a capable busdriver that year but there was still potential upside that maybe he would progress another level, look at Rich Gannon's career for example. The Giants can get out from under this contract in 2025 at $22.2m or in 2026 at $11.1m.
The Giants gambled on progression and lost. The Browns gambled ridiculous cap crushing money on a sexual predator who had sat out a year and have lost in hysterical fashion.
How are so many of these talk shows discussing Cowboys getting Deion and drafting his son. They literally just gave their QB a 60 million an year contract
Cowherd made a good point though imo. Denver did the same with Wilson but cut their losses and drafted a (not even that promising) QB in Nix. Who is now a co-frontrunner for OROY and has them in a playoff spot midway through the season.How are so many of these talk shows discussing Cowboys getting Deion and drafting his son. They literally just gave their QB a 60 million an year contract
I don't think that those are comparable tbh. Dak is still a pretty good QB and to take so much dead money for him would be crazy.Cowherd made a good point though imo. Denver did the same with Wilson but cut their losses and drafted a (not even that promising) QB in Nix. Who is now a co-frontrunner for OROY and has them in a playoff spot midway through the season.
It won't happen, agreed, and I don't think Shedeur Sanders is even good enough to turn around that franchise to begin with, but the strategy as such isn't the worst idea in the world. It's what Cleveland should've already done with Watson as well.
Doesn't look like there's any coming back for Danny Dimes.
Yep, it's right alongside not being very good.Is being accused of sexual assault one of the mandatory qualifications on the browns qb job description?
Doesn't look like there's any coming back for Danny Dimes.
If he gets injured then some more of his contract gets guaranteed, so they don't want him risking injury to make it as cheap when they cut him after the season. Was the same deal with Russell Wilson in Denver last year.i'm totally out of the loop on this. I know he's trash, but what happened to force this kind of statement / the reporting he's now QB4?
Did he try a "i either play or I'm on strike" or was it a contract stipulation? I can see QB 1 and 2 swapping, but QB 1 to QB4? What happened?
thanks for that! Makes sense. I was thinking contract stuff seemed the most likely.If he gets injured then some more of his contract gets guaranteed, so they don't want him risking injury to make it as cheap when they cut him after the season. Was the same deal with Russell Wilson in Denver last year.
Also Carr in Vegas if I recall correctly. Contact guarantees you’re given to protect against injury end up benching yourself once the front office decides you’re not part of the long-term future; an oddity in the current state of things.thanks for that! Makes sense. I was thinking contract stuff seemed the most likely.