We should buy him as Berbatovs replacement
Neymar Da Silva
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Rooney and Neymar up front for United
I hear Barca have something in place though think this kid is worth paying whatever fee's are necessary, he would pay for himself in shirt sales alone and bar injury re-sale value would be £80+ mill if he continue
we have very little chance of getting him. Unless he wants to come to us so badly ala saha, which i dont see happening. He would cost too much. City are in with a chance in this case. But i can see him at Real or Barca.
Would be a great signing, though.
Would be a great signing, though.
I agree 100% we should use the money from Ronaldo's sale to buy him as a direct replacement, we got 80 for Ronie, we should spend 60 to buy him and 20 for a 4 year contract.
There is only one problem, the Glazers.
So neymar last night scored 1, and ASSISTED 5.
Santos won 8-0 against bolivar
http://www.101greatgoals.com/goals/south-america/santos-hit-bolivar-for-8-eight/
Santos won 8-0 against bolivar
http://www.101greatgoals.com/goals/south-america/santos-hit-bolivar-for-8-eight/
This is the problem I have with Brazilian players and these kind of YouTube videos. They play against a lot of pub teams. And by pub teams I literally mean pub teams and not the teams from the Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A (which is actually a decent league). Neymar doesn't only play in the usual Brazilian league. He also plays games in state championships like the Campeonato Paulista. It's a tournament played between clubs only from the state of Sao Paulo. Teams like Noroeste, Grêmio Prudente or Mogi Mirim play there and they certainly wouldn't even survive in third division leagues in Europe. Ituano FC for example plays in the fourth division of the Brazilian league. Oeste, who finished 6th in the Paulista in 2011, just got promoted to the Serie C (third division).
Furthermore Neymar participates in the Copa Libertadores. That's like the Champions League. Except that it doesn't feature the best teams from Spain, England, Germany, Italy, Portugal and France. But Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru and the likes. Like Club Bolivar which Santos trashed 8-0 yesterday ...
In the usual Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A which everyone refers to as "the Brazilian league", Santos finished 10th.
So: When people make fun of Neymar videos like "lol, Brazilian league defending = crap" it's actually even worse in many cases. Because he also plays against fourth division teams from Brazil. In that sense he's like a Kinder Egg. You just don't know what you'll get once he comes to Europe. The greatest Brazilians in recent decades have never moved straight from Brazil to Barcelona or Real Madrid. Ronaldo played 2 years at PSV, Ronaldinho settled in 2 years at PSG, Rivaldo moved to Deportivo La Coruna. Players that went straight from Brazil to the biggest European clubs: Robinho, Pato, Keirrison ...
If he comes to Barcelona and finds out that he isn't exactly on Messi's level as Pelé and 300 million Brazilians want to believe and that his rainbow flicks won't work in El Clasico when facing Pepe, he might end up exactly like Robinho.
Of course he could also become the next Ronaldinho and Messi-Neymar would be like visual viagra for me for the next 10 years.
This is the problem I have with Brazilian players and these kind of YouTube videos. They play against a lot of pub teams. And by pub teams I literally mean pub teams and not the teams from the Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A (which is actually a decent league). Neymar doesn't only play in the usual Brazilian league. He also plays games in state championships like the Campeonato Paulista. It's a tournament played between clubs only from the state of Sao Paulo. Teams like Noroeste, Grêmio Prudente or Mogi Mirim play there and they certainly wouldn't even survive in third division leagues in Europe. Ituano FC for example plays in the fourth division of the Brazilian league. Oeste, who finished 6th in the Paulista in 2011, just got promoted to the Serie C (third division).
Furthermore Neymar participates in the Copa Libertadores. That's like the Champions League. Except that it doesn't feature the best teams from Spain, England, Germany, Italy, Portugal and France. But Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru and the likes. Like Club Bolivar which Santos trashed 8-0 yesterday ...
In the usual Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A which everyone refers to as "the Brazilian league", Santos finished 10th.
So: When people make fun of Neymar videos like "lol, Brazilian league defending = crap" it's actually even worse in many cases. Because he also plays against fourth division teams from Brazil. In that sense he's like a Kinder Egg. You just don't know what you'll get once he comes to Europe. The greatest Brazilians in recent decades have never moved straight from Brazil to Barcelona or Real Madrid. Ronaldo played 2 years at PSV, Ronaldinho settled in 2 years at PSG, Rivaldo moved to Deportivo La Coruna. Players that went straight from Brazil to the biggest European clubs: Robinho, Pato, Keirrison ...
If he comes to Barcelona and finds out that he isn't exactly on Messi's level as Pelé and 300 million Brazilians want to believe and that his rainbow flicks won't work in El Clasico when facing Pepe, he might end up exactly like Robinho.
Of course he could also become the next Ronaldinho and Messi-Neymar would be like visual viagra for me for the next 10 years.
Too be fair though, he has done it at international level too.
Scored against germany, killed scotland who have premier league level defenders
We should use the money from Ronaldo's sale to buy him as a direct replacement, we got 80 for Ronie, we should spend 60 to buy Neymar and 20 for a 4 year contract.
What 80 mil? That's long gone, mate.
Ah, the Ronaldo money.
You are forgetting to consider one really important thing and that is the fact he has so much talent and he has the right sort of talent.
Christiano Ronaldo had all that sort of talent when he was with Sporting and he would have become a star even if he hadnt come to us.
You mention Neymar is playing against much weaker teams but we also have players playing in the league cup against teams like Bury or Torquay.
You also forgot to mention that in the Copa Libertores he comes up against teams from Argentina, Chile and Uruguay (2 of those countries btw have won a world cup) and forgot to mention that in the Champions league we come up against club teams from Belgium and Turkey..... Your comparisons are selective and misleading.
The problem is that so many people foolishly like to demean the Brazilian and South American leagues and all the while somehow forget over the last 75 years or more just how many amazingly brilliant players come out of those leagues. If the South American leagues were as poor as so many like to make out then we simply wouldnt be seeing the production line of staggering talent from there.
Maradonna was already a genius even before he got to Europe, if you had seen him in the Youth World Championships you would know that.
Neymar is far from a Kinder egg, anyone with even just one functioning eye can see that Neymar has fantastic ball control while at pace, he has a ton of pace and acceleration and also very clearly has vision.
I dont see anyone claiming Neymar is at Messi's level but what is clear is that his potential to be a special player is clear for everyone to see. He has shown his ability at international level.
Christiano Ronaldo had all that sort of talent when he was with Sporting and he would have become a star even if he hadnt come to us.
You mention Neymar is playing against much weaker teams but we also have players playing in the league cup against teams like Bury or Torquay.
You also forgot to mention that in the Copa Libertores he comes up against teams from Argentina, Chile and Uruguay (2 of those countries btw have won a world cup) and forgot to mention that in the Champions league we come up against club teams from Belgium and Turkey..... Your comparisons are selective and misleading.
The problem is that so many people foolishly like to demean the Brazilian and South American leagues and all the while somehow forget over the last 75 years or more just how many amazingly brilliant players come out of those leagues. If the South American leagues were as poor as so many like to make out then we simply wouldnt be seeing the production line of staggering talent from there.
Maradonna was already a genius even before he got to Europe, if you had seen him in the Youth World Championships you would know that.
Neymar is far from a Kinder egg, anyone with even just one functioning eye can see that Neymar has fantastic ball control while at pace, he has a ton of pace and acceleration and also very clearly has vision.
I dont see anyone claiming Neymar is at Messi's level but what is clear is that his potential to be a special player is clear for everyone to see. He has shown his ability at international level.
This is the problem I have with Brazilian players and these kind of YouTube videos. They play against a lot of pub teams. And by pub teams I literally mean pub teams and not the teams from the Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A (which is actually a decent league). Neymar doesn't only play in the usual Brazilian league. He also plays games in state championships like the Campeonato Paulista. It's a tournament played between clubs only from the state of Sao Paulo. Teams like Noroeste, Grêmio Prudente or Mogi Mirim play there and they certainly wouldn't even survive in third division leagues in Europe. Ituano FC for example plays in the fourth division of the Brazilian league. Oeste, who finished 6th in the Paulista in 2011, just got promoted to the Serie C (third division).
Furthermore Neymar participates in the Copa Libertadores. That's like the Champions League. Except that it doesn't feature the best teams from Spain, England, Germany, Italy, Portugal and France. But Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru and the likes. Like Club Bolivar which Santos trashed 8-0 yesterday ...
In the usual Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A which everyone refers to as "the Brazilian league", Santos finished 10th.
So: When people make fun of Neymar videos like "lol, Brazilian league defending = crap" it's actually even worse in many cases. Because he also plays against fourth division teams from Brazil. In that sense he's like a Kinder Egg. You just don't know what you'll get once he comes to Europe. The greatest Brazilians in recent decades have never moved straight from Brazil to Barcelona or Real Madrid. Ronaldo played 2 years at PSV, Ronaldinho settled in 2 years at PSG, Rivaldo moved to Deportivo La Coruna. Players that went straight from Brazil to the biggest European clubs: Robinho, Pato, Keirrison ...
If he comes to Barcelona and finds out that he isn't exactly on Messi's level as Pelé and 300 million Brazilians want to believe and that his rainbow flicks won't work in El Clasico when facing Pepe, he might end up exactly like Robinho.
Of course he could also become the next Ronaldinho and Messi-Neymar would be like visual viagra for me for the next 10 years.
This is the problem I have with Brazilian players and these kind of YouTube videos. They play against a lot of pub teams. And by pub teams I literally mean pub teams and not the teams from the Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A (which is actually a decent league). Neymar doesn't only play in the usual Brazilian league. He also plays games in state championships like the Campeonato Paulista. It's a tournament played between clubs only from the state of Sao Paulo. Teams like Noroeste, Grêmio Prudente or Mogi Mirim play there and they certainly wouldn't even survive in third division leagues in Europe. Ituano FC for example plays in the fourth division of the Brazilian league. Oeste, who finished 6th in the Paulista in 2011, just got promoted to the Serie C (third division).
Furthermore Neymar participates in the Copa Libertadores. That's like the Champions League. Except that it doesn't feature the best teams from Spain, England, Germany, Italy, Portugal and France. But Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru and the likes. Like Club Bolivar which Santos trashed 8-0 yesterday ...
In the usual Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A which everyone refers to as "the Brazilian league", Santos finished 10th.
So: When people make fun of Neymar videos like "lol, Brazilian league defending = crap" it's actually even worse in many cases. Because he also plays against fourth division teams from Brazil. In that sense he's like a Kinder Egg. You just don't know what you'll get once he comes to Europe. The greatest Brazilians in recent decades have never moved straight from Brazil to Barcelona or Real Madrid. Ronaldo played 2 years at PSV, Ronaldinho settled in 2 years at PSG, Rivaldo moved to Deportivo La Coruna. Players that went straight from Brazil to the biggest European clubs: Robinho, Pato, Keirrison ...
If he comes to Barcelona and finds out that he isn't exactly on Messi's level as Pelé and 300 million Brazilians want to believe and that his rainbow flicks won't work in El Clasico when facing Pepe, he might end up exactly like Robinho.
Of course he could also become the next Ronaldinho and Messi-Neymar would be like visual viagra for me for the next 10 years.
His talent is quite evident but i do agree that its better to move to a tier 2 club in Europe first and then to Real/Barca. Specially given the quality of players in Barca and the number of points required to secure the league, he'l need to fit in immediately and that'l be a tough ask coming straight from Brazil. That said, there's no way anyone but Real Barca Chelsea or City could afford him so it isnt as if he has a choice anyways. He'l just need to make the step up immediately.
Overall he's been average in competitive games for Brazil, though. Anyone who saw him in the Copa America could tell you that buying Neymar for £80m is an absolutely ludicrous suggestion.
Do you watch much South American football?
The standard of the Copa Libertadores that Santos won was shockingly poor, there wasn't a single team in it with any type of coherent structure which meant that there was shit loads of space in midfield, so Neymar found if unbelievably easy on the counter attack.
He didn't get the same space in Copa America when up against more tactically astute sides and he was hopeless.
It's alright watching Youtube clips of him running rings around what are effectively semi-professional players, but the jury is still very much out for me on him. He does the wrong thing way too often.
He's young and obviously has talent, but I wouldn't touch him for the type of money Santos are quoting. Not at this stage of his career.
Most of that was just shit defending and keeping. Santos were just pissing about even from the 3rd goal ffs.
This is the problem I have with Brazilian players and these kind of YouTube videos. They play against a lot of pub teams. And by pub teams I literally mean pub teams and not the teams from the Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A (which is actually a decent league). Neymar doesn't only play in the usual Brazilian league. He also plays games in state championships like the Campeonato Paulista. It's a tournament played between clubs only from the state of Sao Paulo. Teams like Noroeste, Grêmio Prudente or Mogi Mirim play there and they certainly wouldn't even survive in third division leagues in Europe. Ituano FC for example plays in the fourth division of the Brazilian league. Oeste, who finished 6th in the Paulista in 2011, just got promoted to the Serie C (third division).
Furthermore Neymar participates in the Copa Libertadores. That's like the Champions League. Except that it doesn't feature the best teams from Spain, England, Germany, Italy, Portugal and France. But Bolivia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru and the likes. Like Club Bolivar which Santos trashed 8-0 yesterday ...
In the usual Campeonato Brasileiro Serie A which everyone refers to as "the Brazilian league", Santos finished 10th.
So: When people make fun of Neymar videos like "lol, Brazilian league defending = crap" it's actually even worse in many cases. Because he also plays against fourth division teams from Brazil. In that sense he's like a Kinder Egg. You just don't know what you'll get once he comes to Europe. The greatest Brazilians in recent decades have never moved straight from Brazil to Barcelona or Real Madrid. Ronaldo played 2 years at PSV, Ronaldinho settled in 2 years at PSG, Rivaldo moved to Deportivo La Coruna. Players that went straight from Brazil to the biggest European clubs: Robinho, Pato, Keirrison ...
If he comes to Barcelona and finds out that he isn't exactly on Messi's level as Pelé and 300 million Brazilians want to believe and that his rainbow flicks won't work in El Clasico when facing Pepe, he might end up exactly like Robinho.
Of course he could also become the next Ronaldinho and Messi-Neymar would be like visual viagra for me for the next 10 years.
Interesting stuff Homeo
Robinho is the only player of those three that was touted as highly as Neymar is being now and his career has been a success. He was a first team regular in a double title winning Real Madrid Side and a first team regular in a title winning AC Milan side. He has failed to live up to the absurdly lofty expections that came with being a Santos no 10, but if we step back from those expectations, then he hasn't done too badly at all.
Pato hasn't done too badly either and at 22 it is a little short sighted to mark him down as an example of failure.
Keirrison is a slightly odd example too, simply because he went straight on loan to a 'tier 2' club.
That said, I agree with your general point, in that we don't actually know how good the player is at this point due to the quality of oppostion he has shined against.
To address your thinking, what 2nd tier club could afford him?
PSG perhaps, but with their obscene wealth, growing abundance of highly paid egos and high player turnover I can't see PSG as being a good place for a player like Neymar to develop.
Neymar, in wages and profile has risen above 'tier 2' he looks like a Real Madrid spunk job to me.
BTW His rainbow flick sounds gay and looks shit.
Rooney and Neymar up front for United
No chance of Neymar coming here though, not even the slightest.
I know. I can dream
Never say Neymar
My problem with the argument about the quality of his opposition (and I'm not saying it's isn't a legitimate concern, it is), is that other Brazilian stars have had to do the same. Neymar is arguably doing better than the likes of Ronaldinho did in Brazil. He is not only destroying the opposition for fun, he is showing ridiculous talent to go along with it.
My question really, is what more can he do? He's 20 years old, of course he's going to make some poor decisions with the ball. But the talent he possesses is scary. I follow him as closely as I can and he really is dominating for someone of his age, regardless of the opposition. Of course he wouldn't have near as much success in England or Spain at this stage of his career, but no one expects that. He can only play whats in front of him.
Personally I feel that if he keeps his ego in check, he'll easily be one of the best players in the world. I do feel he needs to leave Brazil in the next season or two, though, for his own good.
My question really, is what more can he do? He's 20 years old, of course he's going to make some poor decisions with the ball. But the talent he possesses is scary. I follow him as closely as I can and he really is dominating for someone of his age, regardless of the opposition. Of course he wouldn't have near as much success in England or Spain at this stage of his career, but no one expects that. He can only play whats in front of him.
Personally I feel that if he keeps his ego in check, he'll easily be one of the best players in the world. I do feel he needs to leave Brazil in the next season or two, though, for his own good.
To make my point clear again. I'm not suggesting: "Neymar is only showing his trade in South America and therefore he is crap and has no talent." Stack, you have misunderstood me there. I don't underrate the Brazilian league at all. In fact I said it's actually a decent league. My problem is that Santos is also playing against a lot of second, third and fourth tier teams from lower leagues and there are tons of YouTube videos of how he makes nice flicks and stepovers against those and people already want to splash "the Ronaldo money" on him. While he undoubtly has talent, it's exaggerated to an extend ("worth € 60 million"). If you put Götze, Hazard or Thiago in Santos and let them play in the Paulista, they'll also stand out and look like the second coming of Pelé. Guaranteed. The Campeonato Paulista has 20 teams. As of 2011 it included the likes of:
Ponte Preta: Serie B
Oeste: Serie D
Mirassol: Serie D
Portuguesa: Serie B
São Caetano: Serie B
Americana: Serie B
Bragantino: Serie B
Ituano: Serie D
Grêmio Prudente: Serie B
Santo André: Serie C
Neymar's goalscoring record in the Serie A: 40 goals in 85 games (0.47 goals per game).
Neymar's goalscoring record in the Paulista: 37 goals in 56 games (0.66 goals per game).
Robinho's goalscoring record in the Serie A when he was as old as Neymar: 46 goals in 111 games (0.41 goals per game)
Finished and fat Ronaldinho as of 2011 in the Serie A: 14 goals in 28 games (0.5 goals per game)
Hazard's stats this season in Ligue 1: 17 goals and 16 assists in 33 games.
Make of all that what you will. He remains a kinder egg. He could become the next Robinho or the next Ronaldinho. If he joins Barcelona with the mindset "I'll be the star now like in Brazil" and realises that the level of football in general, that of his competitors and that of his teammates is a "bit" higher than what he was used to at Santos (dwelling 5 seconds on the ball to pull a rainbow flick), it will kill him mentally. I'd rather have him join a team like Malaga first in La Liga. But that won't happen since football has become so commercialised nowadays.
That's not really true. Ronaldinho at the age of 20 scored 41 goals in 49 total appearances for Gremio.
Ponte Preta: Serie B
Oeste: Serie D
Mirassol: Serie D
Portuguesa: Serie B
São Caetano: Serie B
Americana: Serie B
Bragantino: Serie B
Ituano: Serie D
Grêmio Prudente: Serie B
Santo André: Serie C
Neymar's goalscoring record in the Serie A: 40 goals in 85 games (0.47 goals per game).
Neymar's goalscoring record in the Paulista: 37 goals in 56 games (0.66 goals per game).
Robinho's goalscoring record in the Serie A when he was as old as Neymar: 46 goals in 111 games (0.41 goals per game)
Finished and fat Ronaldinho as of 2011 in the Serie A: 14 goals in 28 games (0.5 goals per game)
Hazard's stats this season in Ligue 1: 17 goals and 16 assists in 33 games.
Make of all that what you will. He remains a kinder egg. He could become the next Robinho or the next Ronaldinho. If he joins Barcelona with the mindset "I'll be the star now like in Brazil" and realises that the level of football in general, that of his competitors and that of his teammates is a "bit" higher than what he was used to at Santos (dwelling 5 seconds on the ball to pull a rainbow flick), it will kill him mentally. I'd rather have him join a team like Malaga first in La Liga. But that won't happen since football has become so commercialised nowadays.
That's not really true. Ronaldinho at the age of 20 scored 41 goals in 49 total appearances for Gremio.
To make my point clear again. I'm not suggesting: "Neymar is only showing his trade in South America and therefore he is crap and has no talent." Stack, you have misunderstood me there. I don't underrate the Brazilian league at all. In fact I said it's actually a decent league. My problem is that Santos is also playing against a lot of second, third and fourth tier teams from lower leagues and there are tons of YouTube videos of how he makes nice flicks and stepovers against those and people already want to splash "the Ronaldo money" on him. While he undoubtly has talent, it's exaggerated to an extend ("worth € 60 million"). If you put Götze, Hazard or Thiago in Santos and let them play in the Paulista, they'll also stand out and look like the second coming of Pelé. Guaranteed. The Campeonato Paulista has 20 teams. As of 2011 it included the likes of:
Ponte Preta: Serie B
Oeste: Serie D
Mirassol: Serie D
Portuguesa: Serie B
São Caetano: Serie B
Americana: Serie B
Bragantino: Serie B
Ituano: Serie D
Grêmio Prudente: Serie B
Santo André: Serie C
Neymar's goalscoring record in the Serie A: 40 goals in 85 games (0.47 goals per game).
Neymar's goalscoring record in the Paulista: 37 goals in 56 games (0.66 goals per game).
Robinho's goalscoring record in the Serie A when he was as old as Neymar: 46 goals in 111 games (0.41 goals per game)
Finished and fat Ronaldinho as of 2011 in the Serie A: 14 goals in 28 games (0.5 goals per game)
Hazard's stats this season in Ligue 1: 17 goals and 16 assists in 33 games.
Make of all that what you will. He remains a kinder egg. He could become the next Robinho or the next Ronaldinho. If he joins Barcelona with the mindset "I'll be the star now like in Brazil" and realises that the level of football in general, that of his competitors and that of his teammates is a "bit" higher than what he was used to at Santos (dwelling 5 seconds on the ball to pull a rainbow flick), it will kill him mentally. I'd rather have him join a team like Malaga first in La Liga. But that won't happen since football has become so commercialised nowadays.
That's not true. Ronaldinho at the age of 20 scored 41 goals in 49 appearances for Gremio.
That's a bloody good post.
Just saw this from a Santos game. If anything he just comes across as a showpony in half his videos. Could never see him succeeding with stuff like this in a big league.
That's from a old game though - isn't it Orton? Because I'm sure I've seen that vid posted somewhere earlier in this thread. Else I might have seen it on Youtube.
Though I agree with the show pony bit, as long as he uses it effective (like he did beating those players in the video), I enjoy the entertainers (or the minimal of them left!) in modern football. Ronaldinho was one of my all time favourites.
Though I agree with the show pony bit, as long as he uses it effective (like he did beating those players in the video), I enjoy the entertainers (or the minimal of them left!) in modern football. Ronaldinho was one of my all time favourites.
This is not from 'yesterday's Santos game,' I've seen it before on more than 63 occasions.
Not a clue, saw it on another website which spoke of yesterdays game and they had this link. I haven't paid attention to the thread but the point still stands, most videos i've seen of him he does some pointless trick then gets taken out.
Has this been asked before?
So how was that a red card?
So how was that a red card?
I'd love to see him do that to a defender in the PL.
I think he needs to leave Brasil, as well but he's not ready for a big club yet...Should go to a club in the Portuguese league before jumping to a club like Barcelona...I get the sense Nike is pushing him hard but he's not quite ready, for me
The first post always makes me laugh.
And that's a red because you can't touch Neymar in Brazil without it at least being a foul.
And that's a red because you can't touch Neymar in Brazil without it at least being a foul.
As if he'd even try that against Tony Hibbert
I'm guessing the ref saw it as a malicious attempt to injure Neymar, in retribution for making the other defender look like a fool. Sort of like one occasion where a Middlesbrough player got sent of for assaulting Ronnie late in the game (06/07 season I think).
Which is of course ridiculous, as this was a soft foul at best.
I don't remember that incident myself, but if he "assaulted Ronnie" then he probably got the red card for the, y'know, assault.
I've got family in South America and follow South American football a bit (admittedly, more the Argentine side of things), and it seems that the consensus on Neymar is that he's unfathomably talented but he also gets so much protection from the Brazilian FA and refs. It's basically a guaranteed foul if you even touch him, and he'll make sure that he goes down to earn the freekick even it's a fair tackle.
Ignoring any of the debate about the league and quality of opposition, anyone watching Neymar can see that his ball control at pace and his decision making for someone just 20 years old is outstanding. He will be able to replicate that sort of ability in any league anywhere in the world.
Ignore the stats, ignore the league just look at his ball control, his ball control at pace, his off the ball movement, look at his body position when he recieves the ball, look at his quality of passing in tight areas and when in space, look at his speed, his change of pace, his acceleration out of skill moves, look at his fast feet and balance.
He is worth every penny of whats being asked.
He has shown his ability at international level and even if he never left Brazil he would still show that ability at international level. Even if he never leaves Brazil he will be a world star.
Ignore the stats, ignore the league just look at his ball control, his ball control at pace, his off the ball movement, look at his body position when he recieves the ball, look at his quality of passing in tight areas and when in space, look at his speed, his change of pace, his acceleration out of skill moves, look at his fast feet and balance.
He is worth every penny of whats being asked.
He has shown his ability at international level and even if he never left Brazil he would still show that ability at international level. Even if he never leaves Brazil he will be a world star.