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Don't feck this up, just don't feck this up.
This all sounds quite positive. Rangnick has form building clubs and Ten Hag has shown at Ajax that he can build teams. We're in a mess, but between them these guys might be able to get us out if it, if they are given a bit of money and a bit of time.
I'm going to remain positive.
Ye if you believe in your self and want to test your self then this is the job for you… can understand our fans saying if he joins it will ruin his reputation though because we’ve had big name managers… mourinho, LVG and they all failed… the fans who are saying stay clear are obviously frustrated and rightly so… seems like no matter what manager we have there going to fail and this all starts with the board… unless they change then the managers are most likely to fail in our club because of the structure… if ten Hag does succeed though he’ll be highly praised as being the only manager to turn us around. That in itself is a temptation to join us.
Not just money and time but they need to be empowered to make decisions and be supported for those decisions. We cannot have them telling the board they want to get rid of a player and the board blocking that just to "protect an asset".
If Ten Hag does join us, its certainly helpful that he now has intelligent, diligent and studious football people behind him. Moyes, LVG, Jose and Ole were all poor appointments to some extent but they never had that foundation and that is something United have needed to get right post SAF, with the later being such a archaic set-up in hindsight.
If we get Ten Hag it'll be the first we've got a manager who is on the rise who puts an emphasis on the football that most Utd fans want to see. It would be comfortably the most exciting and promising, not guaranteed, but promising managerial appointment.
Of course we might end up hiring Poch (which I don't think we will) and I'll be with all of you miserable lot feeling like there's no hope.
If we dont listen to Rangnick then it will just show that we haven’t learned our lesson
I hope we confirm ETH sooner, the way ABU media and some social media accounts target united getting unbearable day by day.
There’s an account called pooreplreferees in twitter which claims to be neutral and post VAR mistakes but mocks united all day long.
Another chelsea supporter account says that their 4-1 loss is consoled because united played horrible yesterday, seriously can’t understand this logic. These are few examples and they have quite a large followers.
Maybe I’m sounding silly but something is not right with these mindset. Are people watching united closely or just getting few bucks to influence people?
There’s an account called pooreplreferees in twitter which claims to be neutral and post VAR mistakes but mocks united all day long.
Another chelsea supporter account says that their 4-1 loss is consoled because united played horrible yesterday, seriously can’t understand this logic. These are few examples and they have quite a large followers.
Maybe I’m sounding silly but something is not right with these mindset. Are people watching united closely or just getting few bucks to influence people?
If it really is Erik ten Hag, then I very much doubt we will hear anything official until after the cup final between Ajax and rivals PSV on 17.04. Just recently he reiterated his focus on Ajax's campaign and it might affect the morale of his team if he is announced as manager of United just days later.
Next manager = Ten Hag
New players to help United and Ten Hag :
This summer
CB : Lisandro Martinez. Ajax. MV : 32 mill Euro
RB: Denzel Dumfries. Inter and Netherlands. MV: 20 mill Euro
Offensive and creative nr.8 : Christian Eriksen. Contract with Brentford run out this summer. Free transfer
RW : Raphinha, Leeds. MV: 45 mill Euro
United probably will not be in champion league next season. So those 3 players above are realistic to get.
And how those 3 players suit in 433 formation? Potential line up:
Dumfries - Varane - Martinez - Shaw +
Raphinha - Eriksen - Fred/Garner - Bruno - Sancho/Rashford - Ronaldo/Rashford
With the consistent high quality of service from Raphinha, Eriksen, Bruno and Sancho/Rashford. I can promise everyone United CF will score 20 goals + next season and will be one of the team that will score most in the league. Those 4 players will Ronaldo or Rashford with consistent assists and chances.
Eriksen and Raphinha have two of the most precise pass foot out there. And they are really precise and capable to play on the highest ball tempo. Eriksen and Raphinha with Bruno, Sancho and Rashford = No more boring United and inconsistent United. I can promise. Bring Eriksen and Raphinha to United. Next season. For the fans. A much more stronger consistent United attacking.
Raphinha - Eriksen - Fred - Bruno - Rashford/Sancho + Ronaldo/Rashford will match City and Liverpool attacking line.
Bring on the precise left foot with Lisandro Martinez from CB and defend. Short or long passes. Lissandro Martinez has around 90 % success passes this season.
And the full offensive right back in Dumfries who has goals in his game.
Those are mine best recommendations to United.
And next summer transfer target = Manuel Locatelli.
Level up from Fred as the deep laying playmaker and balance cm player. After next summer.
Raphinha - ERiksen - Locatelli - Bruno - Sancho + Rashford. Go to totally dominate premier league on the ball. No matter which opponents. It will hard to take the ball from those 6.
If i was United D.O.F. Those are things i would do. Christian Eriksen right now maybe is more precise with both feets than Bruno. Just showing Eriksen level and abilities. And Raphinha. Everyone that have watch Raphinha the last two season. His touch and feeling of the ball. Is up there with the best.
To battle with City and Liverpool. Head to head with them in the attack. Create and score most goals. Eriksen and Raphinha will if not equal the attacking gap. Close the attacking gap a lot = create chances and scoring goals.
Raphinha - Eriksen - Fred/Garner/Locatelli - Bruno - Sancho + Rashford = No more boring Manchester United = will dominate premier league. 100 % convinced. Like volleyball principle. A good smash need a good and precise set up. Eriksen and Raphinha will set up a lot of chances and goals. 100 %.
New players to help United and Ten Hag :
This summer
CB : Lisandro Martinez. Ajax. MV : 32 mill Euro
RB: Denzel Dumfries. Inter and Netherlands. MV: 20 mill Euro
Offensive and creative nr.8 : Christian Eriksen. Contract with Brentford run out this summer. Free transfer
RW : Raphinha, Leeds. MV: 45 mill Euro
United probably will not be in champion league next season. So those 3 players above are realistic to get.
And how those 3 players suit in 433 formation? Potential line up:
Dumfries - Varane - Martinez - Shaw +
Raphinha - Eriksen - Fred/Garner - Bruno - Sancho/Rashford - Ronaldo/Rashford
With the consistent high quality of service from Raphinha, Eriksen, Bruno and Sancho/Rashford. I can promise everyone United CF will score 20 goals + next season and will be one of the team that will score most in the league. Those 4 players will Ronaldo or Rashford with consistent assists and chances.
Eriksen and Raphinha have two of the most precise pass foot out there. And they are really precise and capable to play on the highest ball tempo. Eriksen and Raphinha with Bruno, Sancho and Rashford = No more boring United and inconsistent United. I can promise. Bring Eriksen and Raphinha to United. Next season. For the fans. A much more stronger consistent United attacking.
Raphinha - Eriksen - Fred - Bruno - Rashford/Sancho + Ronaldo/Rashford will match City and Liverpool attacking line.
Bring on the precise left foot with Lisandro Martinez from CB and defend. Short or long passes. Lissandro Martinez has around 90 % success passes this season.
And the full offensive right back in Dumfries who has goals in his game.
Those are mine best recommendations to United.
And next summer transfer target = Manuel Locatelli.
Level up from Fred as the deep laying playmaker and balance cm player. After next summer.
Raphinha - ERiksen - Locatelli - Bruno - Sancho + Rashford. Go to totally dominate premier league on the ball. No matter which opponents. It will hard to take the ball from those 6.
If i was United D.O.F. Those are things i would do. Christian Eriksen right now maybe is more precise with both feets than Bruno. Just showing Eriksen level and abilities. And Raphinha. Everyone that have watch Raphinha the last two season. His touch and feeling of the ball. Is up there with the best.
To battle with City and Liverpool. Head to head with them in the attack. Create and score most goals. Eriksen and Raphinha will if not equal the attacking gap. Close the attacking gap a lot = create chances and scoring goals.
Raphinha - Eriksen - Fred/Garner/Locatelli - Bruno - Sancho + Rashford = No more boring Manchester United = will dominate premier league. 100 % convinced. Like volleyball principle. A good smash need a good and precise set up. Eriksen and Raphinha will set up a lot of chances and goals. 100 %.
People tend to forget that before Bayern Nagelsmann had only been at Hoffenheim and Leipzig, yes he did well, but they are way smaller clubs than Bayern. It's almost like clubs like Bayern, Real etc are willing to take chances on these kinds of managerial appointments and player recruitments, but our fanbase has decided these kinds of hires for us are nowhere near good enough, it's a very elitist mentality we have considering how far we've fallen
what a bunch of fecking drama queensMight as well fold the club since it's utterly hopeless according to many.
It's a surprise that Liverpool never folded their club after their 30 year drought.
Arsenal as well after 20, shame on both for instead finding managers that worked instead of giving in to despair and accepting their fates as they should have.
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There is always a chance he will be gone within 2 years, nobody can argue with that. But at the same time, our squad is not THAT terrible. Remember when we were on a good form a couple years ago and people started dreaming about a title challenge? It was not a realistic target of course because we had a weak manager but everything can change very quickly with a proper guy in charge. If we finally after those 10 years get a manager who is on the rise in his career rather than some washed up dinosaur, I see no reason why we can't be successful.
I think not announcing it at this point is a bigger distraction. PSV announced RVN last week, albeit under different circumstances. Why didn't Schmidt announce he was not renewing with PSV until the end of the season?
The new manager will be key, obviously, but also our board needs to be ruthless and support him, not the players
Exactly. We really poor at the moment. It's not like the manager be coming in and making us worse because we this 'big' club and the job too big for him.
Either you worth your salt or not, and if he is like we think he is, then he going to do a good job. He hardly be coming in and suddenly forget how to coach because it's us.
Honestly hard not to share this sentiment because regardless of the new manager it's still the same cancerous board that remains. Finishing 2nd, make 3 big signings then be at 7th with 6 or something games to go is criminal. Potentially finishing nearly 10 behind Arsenal is a complete joke.
As much as we I dislike the board they do listen to the fans on these issues more than we think.
It's very clear that Ten Hag is far and away the preferred candidate of United fans. Every fan I've spoke to in person and online wants him to come in. If- or when- he takes over you can imagine the buzz around the club. We'll have a new manager, hopefully quite a few new players and we'll be ready to go again.
Ten Hag is a bigger risk than many think. There's been plenty of manager who've left Ajax and done nothing. There's a very real risk that Ten Hag could join United and be absolutely overwhelmed when things start to hit the fan. Which they inevitably will.
Personally, I'm hoping for Ten Hag. I think he's a risk but there's no getting away from the fact that Poch took over a big club. Which a big budget and big players and he failed.
It's very clear that Ten Hag is far and away the preferred candidate of United fans. Every fan I've spoke to in person and online wants him to come in. If- or when- he takes over you can imagine the buzz around the club. We'll have a new manager, hopefully quite a few new players and we'll be ready to go again.
Ten Hag is a bigger risk than many think. There's been plenty of manager who've left Ajax and done nothing. There's a very real risk that Ten Hag could join United and be absolutely overwhelmed when things start to hit the fan. Which they inevitably will.
Personally, I'm hoping for Ten Hag. I think he's a risk but there's no getting away from the fact that Poch took over a big club. Which a big budget and big players and he failed.
That is actually, a positive. I didn't read that, but it is good that a manager is willing to say that he believes in the players and that he is capable of taking them to the level they should play at. We have a talented squad and I don't believe that we need a wholesale change as well. I completely agree that we need to change that attitude that money fix everything. Identifying the correct talent and building collective unit with our current squad is more pertinent than spending a massive amount of cash on a superstar and just adding more ego and disrupting the dressing room. As stated, I m a fan of ETH, but I also believe that Ajax is not a good indicator of what he can do. He will be in shock when he comes to the premier league and see how much he had it easy at Ajax.
I can't recall wenger managerial record before Arsenal, but with klopp, he accomplished significant things in a much competitive league. The greatest accomplishment of ten hag was the semi final run in the champion league and that was a few years ago. He hasn't reached that height yet again. I don't believe he is the best candidate and there are more ideal candidates out there, but it doesn't mean that he will be a bad choice. Just not the best choice.
Wenger got the arsenal job after managing in Japan. It was a bit left field after the likes of George graham
as a matter of interest who would your choice be?
You do realise who you're talking to?
Pochettino. Experience and successful working in the premier league, experience managing huge egos, has an attractive brand of football/philosophy (only behind pep in most passes and possession), our players love him( so they won't down tools), can attract top players, numerous accomplishments spanning from record number of points at spurs (also champion league final) to getting psg to the semi final and walking the league, good repertoire with sir Alex and some of our ex united players, and great emotional intelligence (managers and past and current player speak highly of him). He should easily be number 1. The only reason I see why he isn't is because it will take a lot to buy him out of psg and United typically doesn't do that. Other than that, Eth and Luis Enrique is my second choice
Not excited at all. This is what has happened to this club.
Been there, seen that. New managers, new hopes, same old shit. Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ole or Ralf.
Don''t get too excited unless we're good on the pitch.
Been there, seen that. New managers, new hopes, same old shit. Van Gaal, Mourinho, Ole or Ralf.
Don''t get too excited unless we're good on the pitch.
Exactly. When Ferguson came the club was in a mess. Very few new managers are in their new jobs because things are going well at the club.
I have no idea if ten Hag will work out IF he’s appointed, because he’s just another gamble, as is every appointment, but I will take it on the chin if he fails as he is my choice.
Amadaeus? Check out his tagline
Neither. I would pick Marcelo Gallardo.
I thought Ralf would work to be fair. I’m a bit clueless now what will work.
Also thought LVG and Jose would work too. We’re cursed.
I think Poch is too similar to what Jose and Ole were attempting. We need a complete reboot of a different idea. Someone who can develop youth and find cheap players who have a hunger to succeed and realise that money will come if they are successful. I don’t want a manager who’s chummy with all the players and that alarms me that this bunch of lazy layabouts want Poch. I think we can discount fergies chum vote too. I think if we go for Poch we end up in the same position in 3’years time asking the same questions whereas someone else will probably be benefiting from ETHs methods
Second this. Over these many years post-Fergie, we absolutely needs a complete reset in the club structure and also the football philosophy. Poch seems to me not so different to what we have tried.
I actually think you should have your staff status removed for not knowing who Amadaeus is.
I thought the van Gaal/Giggs handover thing promised something, but in a rare display of footballing vision from me, I knew Mourinho‘s reign would end in tears.
I think most did. Even those like me who wanted him, knew it would end badly. Just convinced ourselves we might be able to at least get a title out of it.
Yes most probably we should have as Pep had an outstanding year.
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