Any chance Ten Hag watched the Leicester match just now and be terrified of joining this circus?
Maybe ole can give him a ring to explain to him his project
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Maybe ole can give him a ring to explain to him his project
Poisoned chalice this job.
Whomever decides to join I can't see them winning anything.
Whomever decides to join I can't see them winning anything.
Bringing in Ancelotti would depress the shit out of me and indicate the club has no idea how bad a mess things are.
I can't imagine Nagelsmann leaving Bayern anytime soon.
Tuchel I guess could, that would be fine, but I'd gamble on Ten Hag as likelier to bring in youth and not take shortcuts but look to rebuild the squad.
Luis Enrique could work, but his teams at Barca weren't as cohesive as Pep's and more reliant. But I think there's a path to it working potentially. Doesn't hurt that he works with lots of players who play hard and with skill and aren't at massive clubs yet like Pau Torres, Soler, Merino, Porro, Olmo and Yeremy who might well all start for us if we bought them tomorrow.
Thanks for giving us hope. We really need this. Hope ETH will have the same effects like when Klopp took over Liverpool. Clear improvement and entertaining modern attacking football right from the start.
Correct , Ten Hag would be wise to steer clear , coming to United could seriously damage his career.
The manager in your example doesn't have to deal with a group of entitled multimillionaire ego maniacs, and a board whose primary objective is to strengthen the commercial appeal of the club. Ten Hag is going to encounter so many hurdles and barriers at United. Players like Rashford, Maguire, Shaw and McTominay will be forced on him as they're the British core. Washed up star players will be signed against his wishes, because it generates likes on social media. We're as much of a circus as a football club and there's certainly no guarantees regardless of which manager comes in. Don't get me wrong, I want us to hire him. But I'm not going to delude myself into believing he's the magic bullet. Realistically he'll be sacked within 2 years and we'll be left with a slightly different group of overpaid wasters.
Yesterday the commentators were almost pitying us. Like one day one manager will crack it. Hopefully ETH cracks it. We should back him with whatever decision he takes regarding the squad. No more starboy or captain fantastic treatment.
Yup like Neville yesterday.
These United pundits have inflicted irreparable damage to the club and its about time the club stops listening to them and thinking they represent the opinions of the fanbase.
Yeah, he left his traces in Tobias Schweinstiger in that wardrobe. Sounds dodgy, had enough scandal. do not want."When I first met him, in the wardrobe"
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He’s the only one that went in and said that he didn’t need to make a multitude of signings whilst detailing his plan. We need to change from this attitude that money fixes everything as far as teams go. We need a coach with a plan.
from reading more and more about his methods im convinced that he’s the strongest candidate. PL experience shouldn’t even be a thing, many have come before to do great jobs, such as wenger and Klopp for example but also the likes of Hussenthal
Wages, attitude. There’s more to building a squad than just the 11 who play
Struggling to care about this really. Sign who we can and promote players from the academy. There are about 2-3 players currently in the first team picture who I would care about keeping, the rest can get fecked as far as I’m concerned (Yes I know that is not realistic)
Huh? We’ve already won the EL so what are you talking about?
Not the European Conference League or whatever the name is, though
Something has to give and if 11 players leave it would actually be doing us a favour and give the new manager more time in the job as we'd all be of the understanding he has to build a new team and be given time to do so.
If the squad isn't cleared out the new manager has been handed a poisoned chalice anyway. These players can't win anything as a collective but the expectation is still there.
I will give them time. Unfortunately a lot of those players listed are options off the bench or non options to be honest, which is likely why Ole did not make subs as most of them couldn't change a bed nevermind a game.
Yep, I agree but they're certainly adding to this negative culture around the club. We often hear about defenders who can't get a game, so Bailly basically, moaning about Maguire being super shit and him still not getting a start. We just need to clear them all out and build a first 11 that's backed up by younger, hungry players on the bench who want to dislodge the established players.
It's actually quite surreal how many players I'd happily never see play for us again. I thought I had a low opinion of the squad under LVG/Jose but bloody hell, it's really hit rock bottom now. It would be a blessing for the new manager if half of them were gone in the summer.
I struggle to understand this kind of thinking. If you are ambitious and know you are good enough, why would you shy away from a job like United. If he turns it around then he will be remembered for generations.
Exactly. Those sort of posts from Utd fans are bonkers.
It’s obviously a massive task with huge rewards for someone who can find the ‘secret sauce for success’ - but it’s going to take the Glazers releasing an awful lot of money (purely with regards to the player turnover.
Knowing he is good enough may be conditional. I mean, what person is so good that they can be successful under literally any circumstances? If he can see there will be issues working with the United board that will make it difficult for him to succeed, it wouldn't be through lack of ambition or self-confidence that he'd turn the job down, it'd be looking out for his best interests.
You may be right but a proper manager who backs himself would take our job in a heartbeat. We’re at rock bottom and in need of a rebuild with cash to spend. A top manager with time should be able to turn us around. And if they can’t do it there not a top manager!
He must have missed the disaster performances vs Watford away, Liverpool home and City both home and away. Our season unravelled before it began, we haven't got going at all this season.
He’s a v reliable journalist though, so the fact his article is weighted in favour of Poch is a big concern. These rhetorics aren’t going away.
I think we’ll see an announcement this week, the club is at rock rock bottom , we’re one result away from literally everyone walking away from this season even if it is mathematically possible to make top 4, I think personally I am there myself already.
I think officially it’s a couple mill but we’ll offer them more as a sweetener and announcing it early.
Ajax pretty much have won the league anyway.
I think officially it’s a couple mill but we’ll offer them more as a sweetener and announcing it early.
Ajax pretty much have won the league anyway.
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The board need to make it clear to the players that if any player or member of their entourage leak teams, stories to the press, they will be sold. They need to take a strong stance on this and back the managers decisions.
As much hate as there is for the Glazers, it's not like they have consistently failed to back their chosen managers. Van Gaal spent god knows how much on ADM, Jose spent £90m on Pogba, Ole wasted £80m on Maguire.
The bigger issue is their inability to install a structure that knows how to spend the money properly. Hopefully with Woodward gone, Rangnick providing direction on acquisitions, and a manager with a clear vision of their style of play and the attributes a player needs to have to fit that style, we can start turning that corner. The only problem is it will take some time to undo all of the damage done by Woodward over the past few years.
Getting our wages on a par with the other top teams in the league and clearing out the deadwood, overpaid prima donnas, and workshy instagram apologists will be a big step in the right direction, coupled with the aquisition of hungry, young talented players who are ready to work their bollocks off. From Ralfs quotes yesterday he seems very clear on what needs to be done.
Yep and I hope the club didn’t consult with our players on the new manager either
You only have to look at what the new celtic manager is doing that shows the difference when a good manager comes in. Makes changes to the side and stamps his style on the team. He demands the work and picks players that will deliver it.
If ETH comes in and builds his own team then we'll improve.
If he sticks with them then it's rinse and repeat.
If ETH comes in and builds his own team then we'll improve.
If he sticks with them then it's rinse and repeat.
i look at that list and think...there's about another 5 names missing. feck them all. None of them should feel their position is safe.
Starting to think that the task ahead to rebuild this club is so big now that only Klopp, Guardiola and Nagelsmann would have a shot at succeeding. Ten Hag is a great coach but this job may well overwhelm him.
Cavani, mata, lingaard and pogba are definites to leave. Ronaldo probably if he can find a club who can offer CL next season.
I'm personally happy for "big names" to go. Would like ten hag in, back him in the window with the young hungry players he likes to work with and who fit his philosophy and go from there.
Ideally jones and martial would leave, but as usual they are paid well and may not want a paycut.
I'm personally happy for "big names" to go. Would like ten hag in, back him in the window with the young hungry players he likes to work with and who fit his philosophy and go from there.
Ideally jones and martial would leave, but as usual they are paid well and may not want a paycut.
One window away from looking much better. Not easy for me to be positive right now but sometimes football can change super quick!
I think losing so many unmotivated players, having a disciplinarian and hopefully a good transfer window could have us looking dramatically better relatively quickly. Only one way to find out.
Not one player I’d be upset over them leaving. Zero.
I don't know much about them but it looks like they brought in 6/7 new regular starters last summer. That's the kind of overhaul we need, without it it will just be more of the same whoever we bring in.
It won't be the first season we get a manager we think will be good enough and sign promising players. What's much different between this and the previous 8 years?
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