Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%

  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%

  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%

  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%

  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%
  • Total voters
    1,534
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DomesticTadpole said:
Imagine if we got turned down for Leicester. There again it would say something about how managers perceive the two clubs are run.
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You wouldn't. Ten Hag isn't going to Leicester, and there has never been any reports about any of this. It's a strange scenario made up solely to be negative and put yourselves down, I don't get it.

All we know is, Ten Hag got interviewed, he's interested and is a favourite for the job. That's all. That other clubs are interested in him too, and that other candidates are considered by your club too, goes without saying. It's all good, to cite Klopp.

Time to stop bickering and moaning, goes on endlessly in reaction to every little piece of news, no matter how insignificant.
 
Hansi Fick said:
You wouldn't. Ten Hag isn't going to Leicester, and there has never been any reports about any of this. It's a strange scenario made up solely to be negative and put yourselves down, I don't get it.

All we know is, Ten Hag got interviewed, he's interested and is a favourite for the job. That's all. That other clubs are interested in him too goes without saying.

Time to stop bickering and moaning, goes on endlessly in reaction to every little piece of news, no matter how insignificant.
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Says a lot out our state of mind regarding past decisions by this board. Hopefully this time they will do something for the future of the club, not just a short sighted decision. Funny enough they need another Alex Ferguson choice, someone who will come in and rebuild the club with an eye to what happens down the line. There have been too many nevermind tomorrow today only matters.
 
DomesticTadpole said:
Says a lot out our state of mind regarding past decisions by this board. Hopefully this time they will do something for the future of the club, not just a short sighted decision. Funny enough they need another Alex Ferguson choice, someone who will come in and rebuild the club with an eye to what happens down the line. There have been too many nevermind tomorrow today only matters.
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I think the whole thing needs to be toned down. This isn't a life or death decision. It's just the hiring of a manager. Everything about this is completely normal, there's nothing horrible or outrageous going on whatsoever. I get the point about the state of mind regarding the past but "this board" isn't this board anymore. New CEO, new DoF. Maybe just give it a rest for a moment and let them do their job.
 
Hansi Fick said:
I think the whole thing needs to be toned down. This isn't a life or death decision. It's just the hiring of a manager. Everything about this is completely normal, there's nothing horrible or outrageous going on whatsoever. I get the point about the state of mind regarding the past but "this board" isn't this board anymore. New CEO, new DoF. Maybe just give it a rest for a moment and let them do their job.
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That is what I am hoping, that Woodward has been taken out of the picture, so they won't be going in all starry eyed for a manager who had a reputation in the past.
 
Flexdegea said:
Why did you vote for him then?
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:lol:
Hansi Fick said:
I think the whole thing needs to be toned down. This isn't a life or death decision. It's just the hiring of a manager. Everything about this is completely normal, there's nothing horrible or outrageous going on whatsoever. I get the point about the state of mind regarding the past but "this board" isn't this board anymore. New CEO, new DoF. Maybe just give it a rest for a moment and let them do their job.
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Very sensible.
A lot of fans getting paranoid. Building a pedestal so high they are setting TH up to possibly fail before he's even been confirmed.
 
Hansi Fick said:
You wouldn't. Ten Hag isn't going to Leicester, and there has never been any reports about any of this. It's a strange scenario made up solely to be negative and put yourselves down, I don't get it.

All we know is, Ten Hag got interviewed, he's interested and is a favourite for the job. That's all. That other clubs are interested in him too, and that other candidates are considered by your club too, goes without saying. It's all good, to cite Klopp.

Time to stop bickering and moaning, goes on endlessly in reaction to every little piece of news, no matter how insignificant.
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Its infuriating.
 
Flexdegea said:
Why did you vote for him then?
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I dont know...I say that in the first line of my post! I think the best I can come up with is that the media have talked him up and there are not many other standout candidates.

My concern is, the media are usually wrong and i dont know enough about ETH offer a real opinion.
 
wolvored said:
:lol:

Very sensible.
A lot of fans getting paranoid. Building a pedestal so high they are setting TH up to possibly fail before he's even been confirmed.
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Imagine the meltdown if ETH does not become Man Utd manager. CAF would explode.
 
If I were a betting man I'd think the other interested clubs were Dortmund and possibly Everton? We're the only big 6 club in the hunt for a manager, Newcastle are pretty happy with Howe. Could see Leicester and Villa being interested. I'd think we're by far the most interesting offer on the table for any manager at the moment.
 
Bloody hell, this place has become a shit show. Calm down, ETH will be given the job. It takes time to confirm these things. I hope all these people that are so overwhelmingly in support of ETH are actually prepared to give him time. Very unlikely there'll be any title challenge next season. A top 4 finish would be a good start for next season, then hopefully we will push on a bit in his 2nd season. Will take a while for him to get the team used to his very specific philosophy and he will need to bring in at least 4 first XI players before this team can function in the way he'd want it to imo.

Also, there is massive risk with ETH, it could go really well but we could very easily be struggling around 7th/8th at the turn of the year. He has no experience managing players of this level with the egos they will have which is a huge part of managment, and he will 100% need to earn the respect of thes players since he doesn't have a CV that will command respect like a Guardiola, Conte, etc. If you're going for a manager like this you need to wait until at least the 2nd season to judge him. If he can get us playing a style off football similar to Ajax without it compromising our results this could end up being a great appointment long-term.

Seriously though, get out of any title challenging mindset, that would be an absolutely massive bonus for next season. I'd say 3-4 years as a target to challenge for the PL would be a realistic target.
 
AltiUn said:
If I were a betting man I'd think the other interested clubs were Dortmund and possibly Everton? We're the only big 6 club in the hunt for a manager, Newcastle are pretty happy with Howe. Could see Leicester and Villa being interested. I'd think we're by far the most interesting offer on the table for any manager at the moment.
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The Dutch guy from the Telegraaf (not Verweij, but the guy calling in from his skiing holiday) said Ten Hag has two offers that are interesting to him from clubs on the continent (not England) who play CL and compete for trophies regularly. That excludes Newcastle, Everton, Villa, Leicester and so on. I wouldn't be surprised if it is 2 of Juventus, PSG, maybe BVB and maybe even Real. Though the "compete for trophies" part would be a bit of a stretch regarding Dortmund.
 
Hansi Fick said:
I think the whole thing needs to be toned down. This isn't a life or death decision. It's just the hiring of a manager. Everything about this is completely normal, there's nothing horrible or outrageous going on whatsoever. I get the point about the state of mind regarding the past but "this board" isn't this board anymore. New CEO, new DoF. Maybe just give it a rest for a moment and let them do their job.
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Now you’re just being sensible.

The reactions in this thread are bewildering considering most on here are likely adults.
 
Herr Flick is right. No matter how much drama we create it's going to be what the Board decide.
 
L1nk said:
Genuinely one of the worst posts on this forum if legit and not a wum
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To be fair he was turned down by Spurs and he is stepping up big time in coming from the Dutch League where he is at s team with a massive financial advantage over everyone else to United who are in disarray.

Too many people are clamouring for Ten Hag and it's obvious the vast majority of them are completely clueless about him but then think he's the cool choice.

That is seriously worrying for me
 
lsd said:
To be fair he was turned down by Spurs and he is stepping up big time in coming from the Dutch League where he is at s team with a massive financial advantage over everyone else to United who are in disarray.

Too many people are clamouring for Ten Hag and it's obvious the vast majority of them are completely clueless about him but then think he's the cool choice.

That is seriously worrying for me
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That turned down story is a spoof.


But if that is bias you should be worried we are looking at a manager who managed to get sacked from Spursy
 
CraftySoAndSo said:
So does that mean any manager that has ever managed in the Premier League is more suited to the job than Ten Hag? Should we hire Mark Hughes then since he's obviously a better manager because he's more qualified? But the real question is can we afford the compensation to prize him away from Bradford in league 2.

This whole Premier League experience stuff is a complete myth, a good manager can adapt to any league and do well. Pep, Klopp, Tuchel, Conte, they're the best managers in the Prem over the last 10 years and none of them had any experience here before arriving. But they adapted to the league as any good manager or player is able to do and Pep finished 4th in his first season, adapted and since has created one of the most dominant sides the Premier League has seen. Yes the league is a step up from the Dutch league but Ten Hag has proven himself a very good manager who should very easily be able to make the step up and adapt. And by your own definition we shouldn't of gotten Fergie then since the Scottish league is an even further step down than the Dutch league which means he was completely unqualified for the job right?
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Absolutely spot on. Couldn’t agree with you more. Some people don’t understand about adapting.
 
Does anyone here think Mancini is a better option then ten Hag and pochettino? Darren bent thinks so… ten Hag would still be my first choice but I’m unsure who id prefer over poch and Mancini.
 
United in sin said:
Does Hag have the credentials? Don't tell me he has 'up side' or plays beautiful football, the obvious stuff
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It’s pretty clear you prefer poch as our future manager as I’ve read many of your pros for poch and cons for ETH
But I’m curious from your subjective and realistic point of you, what your thoughts are on pochs cons and ETH pros?
 
CraftySoAndSo said:
So does that mean any manager that has ever managed in the Premier League is more suited to the job than Ten Hag? Should we hire Mark Hughes then since he's obviously a better manager because he's more qualified? But the real question is can we afford the compensation to prize him away from Bradford in league 2.

This whole Premier League experience stuff is a complete myth, a good manager can adapt to any league and do well. Pep, Klopp, Tuchel, Conte, they're the best managers in the Prem over the last 10 years and none of them had any experience here before arriving. But they adapted to the league as any good manager or player is able to do and Pep finished 4th in his first season, adapted and since has created one of the most dominant sides the Premier League has seen. Yes the league is a step up from the Dutch league but Ten Hag has proven himself a very good manager who should very easily be able to make the step up and adapt. And by your own definition we shouldn't of gotten Fergie then since the Scottish league is an even further step down than the Dutch league which means he was completely unqualified for the job right?
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Yeah but to be fair to the bloke who posted that originally, he said "top European league". Guardiola, Klopp and Tuchel had all had experience of managing in major European leagues before the PL.

Again, its not a pre-requisite and I am leaning towards ETH but I dont think we should be getting carried away, hailing another manager as the Messiah and then have this forum full of "ETH out" threads when we aren't top of the league in November.

Whoever comes in will need time and strong support from the fans and senior management. I think whoever comes in, it might necessarily have to get worse before it can truly better
 
lsd said:
To be fair he was turned down by Spurs and he is stepping up big time in coming from the Dutch League where he is at s team with a massive financial advantage over everyone else to United who are in disarray.

Too many people are clamouring for Ten Hag and it's obvious the vast majority of them are completely clueless about him but then think he's the cool choice.

That is seriously worrying for me
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so Levy says that they want a progressive attacking manager. They interview Ten Hag and reject him for Fonseca/Gattuso and then finally Nuno. Yeh seems legit.

Yes he’s at the biggest club in Holland, but he’s also been at smaller clubs and completely turned them around. Ajax we’re also in complete disarray when he joined them. It’s a big step up to the Prem. But he’s had a career at different types of clubs all with their own unique challenges.
 
lsd said:
To be fair he was turned down by Spurs and he is stepping up big time in coming from the Dutch League where he is at s team with a massive financial advantage over everyone else to United who are in disarray.

Too many people are clamouring for Ten Hag and it's obvious the vast majority of them are completely clueless about him but then think he's the cool choice.

That is seriously worrying for me
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I have a hard time believing that especially since they then went and got Nuno even though he did not fit at all with the way they wanted to play. Seems more likely to me he wanted a bigger club after Ajax, a club he can win things with and Spurs did not offer him that (transfers).

The popularity of ETH for me is about the way he plays the game, the way he can make players be better then themselves as a collective and also a lack of other choices that can offer more. Poch is the other obvious candidate and he has as many proven downsides as upsides. It's a risk for sure but, unlike Poch we are yet to see him implode and lose the trust of his players. My personal choice would be young-ish proven winners like Zidane and Enrique but unfortunately they are not available for different reasons so ETH looks like by far the best candidate for a manager that might have the ability to compete at the very top.
 
lenny_1248 said:
The moaning here reminds of the Sancho saga (or Varane).
Ten Hag is done. Just relax.
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Caesar2290 said:
No, you can't because unlike those 2, Ten Hag was never sacked. Every single job he had, he left much better off than what he inherited. He is the only manager out there that doesn't have a "failure" as of yet. Go ahead Eagle - promoted. Bayern II - highest win rate in their history at 67%. Utrecht - you already read the piece. Ajax - transformed them from a big team in the Netherlands, to a really good CL team.

If we compare it to someone like Poch who almost relegated Espanyol and got sacked, had a decent 1 season at Soton, took Spurs from 5th to 3rd on a net spend bigger than Chelsea's and then got sacked and left them in a much worse state. And apparently PSG doesn't count for some reason.

Let's be real here. The only thing Poch has over ETH is the fact that he managed in the EPL. That's about it really.
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Where are you getting your figures for Chelsea's net spend vs Spurs during Pochettino's time there? Also, how did Spurs spending compare to the the rest of the top 6 during that time?

Pochettino's time at Southampton was not merely decent. You're embarrassingly disingenuous in your portrayal of Pochettino. Also, many top managers have been fired and came back strong. If ETH hasn't faced failure you have to wonder how he bounces back from it
 
jackal&hyde said:
I have a hard time believing that especially since they then went and got Nuno even though he did not fit at all with the way they wanted to play. Seems more likely to me he wanted a bigger club after Ajax, a club he can win things with and Spurs did not offer him that (transfers).

The popularity of ETH for me is about the way he plays the game, the way he can make players be better then themselves as a collective and also a lack of other choices that can offer more. Poch is the other obvious candidate and he has as many proven downsides as upsides. It's a risk for sure but, unlike Poch we are yet to see him implode and lose the trust of his players. My personal choice would be young-ish proven winners like Zidane and Enrique but unfortunately they are not available for different reasons so ETH looks like by far the best candidate for a manager that might have the ability to compete at the very top.
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Most reports have said Spurs were unimpressed with his initiate and his ideas.

Look if he gets the job I hope he succeeds and will obviously support him even though I think it's too big a gamble.

My problem with him is his lack of expierence at the highest level especially at his age.
 
It really needs no explanation but somehow some still can’t see it.

When Klopp was at Dortmund everybody was infatuated with the way the play, and by everybody I mean everyone who watches the Champions League. Some people doubted whether he could do it in the premier league, some called him a bottler since he lost some finals. But the evidence was there for all to see.

Now we have the same case with Ten Hag. genuinely great football at CL level, and league level although not one of the top leagues. And people are talking about no premier league experience when the top two coaches in the league had none.

Every appointment is a risk, this one is the more exciting, seemingly higher ceiling appointment. That’s why the absolute majority of supporters want it to happen.
 
lsd said:
Most reports have said Spurs were unimpressed with his initiate and his ideas.

Look if he gets the job I hope he succeeds and will obviously support him even though I think it's too big a gamble.

My problem with him is his lack of expierence at the highest level especially at his age.
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I have the same problem with him but we don't seem to have other options right now. Worst comes to worst we are a disaster for one year and after, Enrique and Flick become available.

The reports on Spurs are IMO briefings from them. You don't turn down ETH only to hire Nuno and call yourself an attacking play club. Makes no sense.
 
lsd said:
Most reports have said Spurs were unimpressed with his initiate and his ideas.

Look if he gets the job I hope he succeeds and will obviously support him even though I think it's too big a gamble.

My problem with him is his lack of expierence at the highest level especially at his age.
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What does that mean? He’s excelling in the Chanpions League with a squad weaker than ours. And based on the matches I have watched, his Ajax team would finish top 4 in the premier league.
 
Lentwood said:
Yeah but to be fair to the bloke who posted that originally, he said "top European league". Guardiola, Klopp and Tuchel had all had experience of managing in major European leagues before the PL.

Again, its not a pre-requisite and I am leaning towards ETH but I dont think we should be getting carried away, hailing another manager as the Messiah and then have this forum full of "ETH out" threads when we aren't top of the league in November.

Whoever comes in will need time and strong support from the fans and senior management. I think whoever comes in, it might necessarily have to get worse before it can truly better
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I know the Dutch league might not be a "top European league" like La Liga or Bundesliga but to say he's completely unqualified for the role and not very good is a bit over the top. It's fine to question weather he can make the step up but let's not smear the work he's done at Ajax both domestically and in Europe because he has done a very good job.

But as i said good managers can adapt and make the step up which was the point i was trying to make with Pep, Klopp Tuchel and Conte. The leagues they came from a lot would say are still not the same quality as the Premier League but they all adapted and adjusted and now thrive here and Ten Hag deserves a shot weather here or elsewhere. Plus he's clearly no charlatan if he's on various shortlists around Europe as well but i agree hailing him as the messiah is over the top as well. But what he has done is a very good job at every club he's been at and he always leaves them a much better team than when he arrives and that deserves respect no matter what level it is.
 
lsd said:
Most reports have said Spurs were unimpressed with his initiate and his ideas.

Look if he gets the job I hope he succeeds and will obviously support him even though I think it's too big a gamble.

My problem with him is his lack of expierence at the highest level especially at his age.
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I wouldn't take anything that came out of Spurs last summer at face value, their process was obviously extremely faulty. They were appointing Gattuso and only fans' outrage made them go back on their decision. They went for Nuno at the end to play attacking football.
 
IhabX7 said:
What does that mean? He’s excelling in the Chanpions League with a squad weaker than ours. And based on the matches I have watched, his Ajax team would finish top 4 in the premier league.
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I agree and I think his Ajax team would be great in the prem, they obviously create a lot of chances as they score a lot of goals, but I can’t say I watch the Dutch games much, Do they tend to be open games or do some teams sit deep still. Just asking as if It’s a much more open league to some of the games we have in the prem then I’d want to know how he fares against teams that park the bus and how he plans to break them down. We know that most prem teams we play sit deep so we could do with someone who has a plan B incase A isn’t working.
 
DJ_21 said:
Does anyone here think Mancini is a better option then ten Hag and pochettino? Darren bent thinks so… ten Hag would still be my first choice but I’m unsure who id prefer over poch and Mancini.
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If bent says something I’d advise you do the opposite, clueless.
 
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