Sorry mate. Was half asleep. Read the tweet as Ten Hag is more focused on transfer strategy thqn playing identity.
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No worries mate.
I know I’m only on the outside looking in like all of us, but I am a bit confused why United haven’t decided on ten Hag yet. (As far as we know)
He’s the clear best option. If there was an outstanding candidate out there to compete with him I could understand, but there isn’t. Only excuse could be if Enrique is trying to sort managing both United and Spain for a few months. But I doubt it
He’s the clear best option. If there was an outstanding candidate out there to compete with him I could understand, but there isn’t. Only excuse could be if Enrique is trying to sort managing both United and Spain for a few months. But I doubt it
There are these leaks and briefs everytime we are hiring a manager talking a good game. Lets see what we actually do
I've said in the past that we need a head coach who will look to develop a playing identity and look to supplement his ideas by potentially promoting a few of the big talents from the youth/reserves, who have out-grown u23 football, and also sign the correct profile of player that is a fit for the way the coach wants to play.
I remember when Liverpool hired Klopp and it was reported that Liverpool applied data to the eye test when making their final decision on Klopp. And it was said that Liverpool had a criteria which included playing ideology and how astute said manager is while being restricted in the transfer market financially. Klopp at the time ticked every box at the time and his ideals were also, all the rage at the time. He's since brought in a coach that has helped him transition into more of a possession team. Klopp also went on record and said that he wants to develop the Liverpool team when he joined, and he wasn't concerned about spending big in the transfer market. Erik ten Hag has similarities with Klopp in that regard and it's music to my ears personally if the report from Jonathan Northcroft is correct.
I think we will sign players in the transfer window and a DM and a few other players will be signed. But if someone like ten Hag can supplement three first team signings by utilising some of the talented youth like Hannibal, Laird, Garner, Pellistri, Diallo, Mengi etc, then that would be the realistic/sensible way to go about things imo.
I think if we do appoint ten Hag, it won't be announced until Ajax's season comes to a close in May.
I remember when Liverpool hired Klopp and it was reported that Liverpool applied data to the eye test when making their final decision on Klopp. And it was said that Liverpool had a criteria which included playing ideology and how astute said manager is while being restricted in the transfer market financially. Klopp at the time ticked every box at the time and his ideals were also, all the rage at the time. He's since brought in a coach that has helped him transition into more of a possession team. Klopp also went on record and said that he wants to develop the Liverpool team when he joined, and he wasn't concerned about spending big in the transfer market. Erik ten Hag has similarities with Klopp in that regard and it's music to my ears personally if the report from Jonathan Northcroft is correct.
I think we will sign players in the transfer window and a DM and a few other players will be signed. But if someone like ten Hag can supplement three first team signings by utilising some of the talented youth like Hannibal, Laird, Garner, Pellistri, Diallo, Mengi etc, then that would be the realistic/sensible way to go about things imo.
I think if we do appoint ten Hag, it won't be announced until Ajax's season comes to a close in May.
How is that the only excuse? Hyperbolic.
They interviewed him on Monday. By all accounts, both sides were impressed with one another. This isn't football manager where things are tied up in a day. There are other things to go over, and there's nothing wrong with the club doing their due diligence rather than handing it on a plate like they did with Moyes and Ole.
As long as the club get to the right decision (and I have to give Arnold the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise) then this place needs to chill the feck out with everyone throwing their toys out of their pram.
If the club fecks this appointment up, then we're all justified to have a pop at them. Until then, let them do what they need to do.
By Darren Bent. A nothing story.
So what happened the posters who wanted Brendan Rodgers and Eddie Howe?
Think they came to their senses. The Rodgers thing was a fever dream.
Andy_Cole from RedCafe also advises Manchester United to look into prising Pep Guardiola away from Manchester City.
I am chilled and not sure why you think I’m throwing my toys out the pram
Since November there’s only been one clear best candidate. And this isn’t an isolated opinion. Polls are favouring ten Hag on multiple platforms, (including fanzines such as uws etc) by 70% plus. Usually more, around 80%
The reason he’s scoring so high is because there’s no real competition. If there was, there would be a debate. But there isn’t and there’s not. Seems a very easy decision to make. I understand nothing can get done as quickly as “football manager” but it’s very fair to expect the decision to be made internally by now
I'd agree that he's clearly the best choice, however the fact the club is taking the decision seriously and has people not named Ed Woodward making the decision is a good thing imo.
Clutching at straws
You have Chelsea who spent less and won 2 PL and a CL in the time Poch performed his "mirracles" at Spurs. Liverpool spent an astronimical 39 million more. But yeah, sure let's deflect from this fact by pointing at other teams.
You want to talk Poch's records against the big boys. Let's talk about this:
But let's put this to bed once and for all. All your achievements you can muster. Every single thing Poch did don't matter. You know why?
Because if were to replicate them at United he would be deemed a failure. Pure and simple.
Ole finished 2nd yet people were calling for his head. Mourinho got us 2 trophies and finished on our highest points since SAF retired and people are still calling him as a underachiever.
You can take his best stints at Soton and Spurs and translate them to United and tell you what: finishing consistently 3rd, trophyless every year isn't good enough for a club of our stature, pure and simple.
The bolded bit is exactly how I see it.
Be a side way appointment that will ultimately lead to More and likely failing as we have seen the body of work previously in the league.
Guess can prob say that about any manager coming in, it's a gamble as the league is the long term gold, but I think trying to touch lucky on a manager who currently on the up, and teams seems to be more in tune with the game at the moment is a far better risk to he taking at this time.
Eddie Howe is still a decent manager IMO. Probably not ready for us right now, but he isn’t going to be at Newcastle forever and it will be interesting to see what his next job will be. He is a positive manager.
Jose was not under qualified for the Chelsea job!He had won the Europa league,the Championsleague and many more trophies at Porto which made him qualified for the job…
SAF was not under qualified when he got the United job.He did a phenomenal job at Aberdeen,he even won a European trophy by beating Real Madrid in the final!
Real Madrid and Barcelona good afford to elevate Zidane and Pep because of the quality of their respective squads.
Tenhag cannot be compared to any of the 4 managers that you mentioned…
More than happy for them to take the decision seriously and tick all boxes before committing to a decision.
But it’s already been about 4/5 months and no elite managerial name has come up yet to rival ten Hag. Maybe Tuchel, but that was over as soon as it started. So I don’t know what’s delayed that decision. Don’t interview people you know won’t come anyway.
When Fergie left, Guardiola was the very obvious one they should have got, they ignored it. When Van Gaal left, Klopp was the one people wanted, and they ignored it. ten Hag is now so obviously the one and they can’t keep ignoring the obvious.
LVG was managing us when Klopp joined Liverpool
Didn't help he thought Woody was a joke
We snoozed on Guardiola and let Bayern get something agreed before we could act
I wouldnt expect many outgoings and incomings, only undeserved new contracts abound
We're guaranteed to lose 4 minimum, that's not including quite a few who look like they'll be asking for moves. It'll be a busy summer whether the club like it or not, it's out of their hands.
Woodward was like a dodgy used car salesman trying to convince a punter that a clapped out old banger is in fact a Rolls Royce.
Yeah very apt comparison
Think if he had said we were a project and Klopp could lift the club back to glory we might have had a chance. It might just be that Klopp already knew the words to YAWN.
Ha of course the Glazers are looking for a candidate least likely to spend lots of money, they probably figured that would be Poch but now they're leaning more towards Ten Hag with his 'playing style' focus.
Buying a car is very much like making love to a beautiful woman...
Yep. Whatever about incomings, I don't see how we avoid a lot of outgoings between the players out of contract and players actively looking to leave.
Is there a punch line? A punchline that won't get you banned.
Not in the habit of defending the Glazers but isn't this a bit lazy?
Do you not think that getting a manager who's looking to implement a recognised style of play and identity is the right approach, regardless?
That should be a positive news.
I think they're thoroughly evaluating all candidates and conducting interviews, etc. I think the actual work started earlier in March/Feb and they want to make sure that they have everything covered before making it official. We can definitely understand that things are happening behind the scenes.
Also - Ajax are still playing for the league and appointing him at this moment will only hamper their season. Don't think ETH and Ajax will want that to happen. I'm expecting Ajax to announce that ETH is leaving at the end of season sometime in April. And we can make an official announcement a few days after that.
In the meantime, I'm guessing all the paperwork and background work will commence as soon as all parties agree.
You're not familiar with Swiss Toni from the Fast Show then?
No. I have seen bit of it, just not that bit. That's a good punchline actually.
Can't say I'm particularly bothered about outgoings.
But the club do need to find an identity with our playing style. I also feel ten Hag will use some academy players who are on the periphery of the first team like Mejbri.
We don't need to spend vast amounts this summer, what we do need is focus on playing style and assessing the playing squad over the course of the season. Then next summer spend money on incoming players, whilst selling players.
That wouldn't have been a bad idea before. I always wondered why players are paid such a huge transfer fee and wages while top class managers are not?
Wouldn't you have paid 80 million to get Pep instead of Maguire?
Please read my post.I never said that because ETH hasnt managed in the PL,so he shouldnt be considered for the job.My point is that he has not managed in any of the top 4 leagues in europe.Guardiola had the experience of managing massive clubs in spain and germany before coming to england.Klopp had managed at the highest level of the bundesliga for a decade before he came to england.So both those managers were more than qualified to manage at the highest level in england.
It is good news but for the Glazers it's financially motivated not football motivated. For once their tight-fistedness is steering us in the right direction.
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