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Do you manager your kids football team then?
Not of age. But when he is. Damn right I will be. He best not be spamming balls like Bruno. He’ll get benched.
Yeah never listen to Talksport pundits for sensible advice because they can't provide it
I stopped listening completely a couple of weeks back, because it is more bothered about where they had dinner, where they went for a drink, what Darren Bent is wearing and proving how thick most of them are.
Shame because was a decent station when it launched but now we have these regular joke callers and pundits to boot
Sure most of the time they are deliberately trying to get into the 'Clip of the Week' on Hawksbee and Jacobs.
Clearly Ralf and the fans want ETH. If we don't get ETH then it can only be because the Glazers didn't provide the kinds of reassurance he wanted on control of transfers. So ETH becomes an acid test of whether the Glazers are really serious about shifting to high press football with the intention of winning stuff. If it is more gas lighting then they will go for Poch - who is a perfectly good coach (as good as ETH) but we know he will accommodate the commercial stuff. Patchwork squads don't win anything.
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With all due respect, Klopp was far more proven than ETH. It wasn't just in the CL. Klopp's Dortmund team remain the only team other than Bayern to win the Bundesliga in the last 11 (soon to be 12 years) and they did it twice in a row. The Bundesliga is also a far better league than the Eredivisie so the competition Klopp's Dortmund were facing on a regular basis was far higher. I'm happy with ETH, especially since I think it's already done and at this stage we might as well put all our full support behind him. That being said, the relative risk between ETH and Klopp is massively scewed towards ETH. The only reason it would even be remotely comparable is because of the way Klopp's time at Dortmund ended, which was probably the main reason we decided not to go for him at the time.
Sorry but this part is absolute nonsense. It would take a Leicester-sized miracle for that Ajax team to finish in the top 4 in the PL. That is nothing against ETH, the realtive standard of the Ajax players vs those in the PL is not high, in most cases mid-table with a couple potential stars like Gravenberch. The problem here is because nobody actually watches the Eredivisie, they have no idea how terribly poor the level of the Eredivisie actually is. The top 3 teams are probably mid level Prem standard, 4-5 probably relegation battling, 6-7 probably mid-table Championship, everything below is probably League 1 or lower. The gap between the top teams and the rest of the league is absolutley gigantic. This isn't just compared to the Premier League, Ligue 1 which people always criticise is a massively superior league, so much so that I would back any of the bottom 3 in Ligue 1 to beat 6th place Vitesse 8/10 times.
Ay it.
Altidore was Eredivise's top scorer. Says a lot about the league.
Benty talking shit on the daily.
Vardy was greatest finisher premier League ever seen, then they railed off all the amazing finishers the league has had, worse take ever.
He defo on the WUM as he knows that how you keep a job on that show triggering folk
Come on, own up….who are the 2 clowns who voted for Lopedegui?
Poch inching up too.
There you go
Bear in mind that Poch didn't have to replace his star players in the same time period. Unlike Chelsea who had to replace Drogba, Terry and Lampard.
And what exactly did he do at Soton? He finished 7th yet you laud it as if he qualified for the CL or won the PL. Good achievement, but Moyes finished 4th with Everton and is having the season of his life with West Ham. Should we rehire him maybe?
Simon Mullock is a rubbish source.
Pochettino's cons: 1. He hasn't won anything and there remains the question of whether he can get his teams over the line when it counts
2. It remains to be seen how he'll bounce back from the overall negative experiences of being fired at Spurs and (looking likely) PSG back to back. Even if he does walk away from PSG with a title his time there will be seen as failure by his harshest detractors and they're plenty. He'll have to win over fans who won't be willing to give him time going by the posts on here
Hag's pros: Has his teams playing flowing and attractive attacking football, seems to show a willingness to adapt to the club's ethos and identity (whatever that means these days for United, so that might not be a good thing haha).
If you've viewed my posting history as pertains to this discussion you'll already know I've made my views very clear and I've gone in depth. There's not much else for me to say
Yet a reporter from the Sun like Niel Custis is deemed favorable here simply because he's been reporting what the Hag supporters want to see.
Not sure I believe that tweet. Surely Ten Hag isn't so entitled as to think he should have been offered the job already when it's public knowledge that we're interviewing and talking with a few candidates.
He’s terrible and a City fan I believe. Got duped into writing an “exclusive” from a parody article then had to grovel afterwards.
https://www.football365.com/news/paul-pogba-bruno-fernandes-injuries-man-united-daily-mirror
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Custis at least regularly covers United and does get things right from time to time.
I posted the same, I'll delete mine
Nah it's because Custis is decent for United
There you go
Bear in mind that Poch didn't have to replace his star players in the same time period. Unlike Chelsea who had to replace Drogba, Terry and Lampard.
And what exactly did he do at Soton? He finished 7th yet you laud it as if he qualified for the CL or won the PL. Good achievement, but Moyes finished 4th with Everton and is having the season of his life with West Ham. Should we rehire him maybe?
You're clutching at straws. So you specifically named Chelsea as there's no other team in the big 6 you could point to to boost your case? You don't think this is bizarre? One thing I'll give Chelsea credit for is they know how to get great deals for their exiting stars.
He made Southampton play brilliant football and made them giant killers and European football chasers. Their final position in his first and only fill season with Southampton didn't reflect their entertainment value and quality of football, similar to West Ham under Moyes who have arguably played better football than Untied this season and sit behind us.
With Poch at the helm in their first season Southampton also beat City, Liverpool and Chelsea in the space of two months! They played fearless high intensity attacking football and took the game to their opponents no matter how big or small
Match report: Southampton 3-1 Manchester City 2012/13 February 9th
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/21311313
Match report: Southampton 3-1 Liverpool March 16 2013
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/mar/16/southampton-liverpool-premier-league
Match report: Southampton 2-1 Chelsea March 30 2013
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/21909243
Poch had an average player like Puncheon punching above his weight. Same with Ricky Lambert who scored 13 and made 10 assists in his first full season with Pochettino, earning him a move to Liverpool. Same with Morgan Schneirdelin who earned a France call up and move to United. Luke Shaw, Nathaniel Clyne, Jay Rodriguez, Adam Lallana, Wanyama, Dejan Lovren, Callum Chambers, Jose Fonte and James Ward-Prawse all shined under him
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All legit points but they were from nearly 10 years ago. The game may have passed him since then. That's a concern, too.
Mourinho and Ancelotti both looked immense 10 years ago. But now they are a shadow of their former selves.
Finally a decent post.
The man downplayed what Pochettino acheived at Southampton and I responded with historical facts. Ancelloti is leading La Liga with Real by 11 points and he beat Pochettino's PSG to remain in the hunt for the CL in 2022. Which Ancelloti are you thinking of?
To be fair he's probably just thinking of the one we all saw not so long ago at Everton.
Sounds ridiculous.
Pochettino's work at Soton ans Spurs is being sold like that's the type of football his sides are serving these days. Sorry but that's not the case. He has evolved over the period of time just like other managers we have had. Everyone expected Jose to play the way his Madrid side or LvG the way his Ajax sides played. But nothing like that happened. Pochettino does not emphasize having a defined way of playing or identity thing and that's why I don't expect him to play the way his Soton side played like almost a decade ago. He wasn't serving anything special during his latter years at Spurs anyways. Yes, a great CL run but horrendous league form that lasted for half a season. So much for league proven and all.
Its time for a breath of fresh air and new ideas. Enough with these safer options that will lead us nowhere.
Its time for a breath of fresh air and new ideas. Enough with these safer options that will lead us nowhere.
Lopetegui and his agent perhaps? They might be members of this group for all we know!
Rubbish. Because like any other big company, hiring and final offers take weeks. We only had an official interview last week according to sources. I'm guessing a couple more interviews might take place with the others. If he is indeed the man, an offer might be made first week of April at the earliest.
Also - I think ETH knows the process quite well, so I doubt he will be "shocked" at not getting an offer immediately after an interview.
Enrique and ten Hag are comfortably the best candidates as far as implementing a strong identity is concerned imo. And it's also not surprising to read that Ten Hag is more interested in developing the existing team with his ideas, rather than look to fix everything via the transfer window, which Northcroft is insinuating about the other candidates.
Northcroft: "Manchester United want their next manager to imbue the club with a strong playing identity, giving Erik ten Hag an early edge in the contest to take over at Old Trafford."
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...d-in-race-for-manchester-united-job-gf3wscw20
No, it's because he's been oddly good for Utd news for years. Against all logic and what people expect, he has. Does it not get boring being just doom and gloom. Already trying to cause division and a split in the fanbase before a manager has even been hired. Twitter might be more the place for you.
Clutching at straws
You have Chelsea who spent less and won 2 PL and a CL in the time Poch performed his "mirracles" at Spurs. Liverpool spent an astronimical 39 million more. But yeah, sure let's deflect from this fact by pointing at other teams.
You want to talk Poch's records against the big boys. Let's talk about this:
But let's put this to bed once and for all. All your achievements you can muster. Every single thing Poch did don't matter. You know why?
Because if were to replicate them at United he would be deemed a failure. Pure and simple.
Ole finished 2nd yet people were calling for his head. Mourinho got us 2 trophies and finished on our highest points since SAF retired and people are still calling him as a underachiever.
You can take his best stints at Soton and Spurs and translate them to United and tell you what: finishing consistently 3rd, trophyless every year isn't good enough for a club of our stature, pure and simple.
So the tweet was wrong? It sounded ridiculous.
Which part did you feel sounded ridiculous, if you don't mind me asking mate?
I'm all for the next manager working with the players we've got who are capable and up for it, but no matter who comes in there has to be a big turnover of players for them to stand a proper chance of suceeding, it'll just maybe slightly less with someone like ETH than some of our other recent managers would have asked for in this situation.
Only with the players that we can't stop leaving we need replacements, then you loads of others that will be gone withn 12 months, the club is just going to have to dig deep.
Only with the players that we can't stop leaving we need replacements, then you loads of others that will be gone withn 12 months, the club is just going to have to dig deep.
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