Next permanent manager | Poll updated

[Caesar2290]

So much Luis Enrique hype. What was his last job? I kept thinking he won the Euros with Italy but that was Mancini?

Spain, had them playing really good footy at the euros. Knocked out in the semis by the eventual winners.

Enrique needs a lot of technical players to succeed. That's why he was a success at Barca where he won the Treble, and failure at Roma.

As things stand he'd do so much more better at City than with our current lot.

 

[Greck]

I think that's the crux of the matter. If Poch was sacked tomorrow I'm sure he'd be our next manager knowing how he's rated at the club. PSG play hardball. Poch is as good as gone but PSG would rather wait than let him go now. Money is nothing to them but they do like to make examples. Ten Hag if I remember correctly is available for 5m and would have Ajaxs blessing making it an all round easier choice for the club.

If it's going to be announced in the next few weeks then there's no way it's Poch over TH.

Did Tuchel leaving to win the CL give them some PTSD? I thought they'd have happily sacked Poch months ago even before the CL failure.

 

[Withnail]

Sure but wasting the international break the way we did during the last days of Ole is almost criminal. We sent our manager on a holiday in Norway while the rest of the building was on fire. Then he came back, he lost against Watford in an almost tragic matter and suddenly we discovered that Conte wasn't available anymore and that Rangnick would not be able to bring his coaching staff in.

They probably waited too long there to be fair but my understanding was that the club weren't even interested in Conte so that's by the by.

 

[edcunited1878]

Spain, had them playing really good footy at the euros. Knocked out in the semis by the eventual winners.

Enrique needs a lot of technical players to succeed. That's why he was a success at Barca where he won the Treble, and failure at Roma.

As things stand he'd do so much more better at City than with our current lot.

Enrique demands technically sound players...that should be a core requisite for a United player or any player that is playing a central role (i.e. Starting XI) at a club the size of United. Coupled with personality and drive and energy, then the player should be seriously considered, if the club wants to implement are more dominant and proactive playing style. Even if the club goes with a more defensively shaped and counter attacking style with the ability to breakdown low blocks, you need technically skilled players across the pitch who can provide energy throughout a match when necessary (transitions, closing down spaces, counterpress).

 

[United in sin]

The downside about Enrique is that he will have less time to prepare before the pre season starts due to World Cup. I don’t want my next manager not having enough time to prepare for analysing his squad and new signings.

Why not bring in some of his recommended staff to get the groundwork going this summer if possible? Keep RR on longer. A tournament shouldn't stop the club making the right appointment

 

[DeGea’sFeet]

They lose a game and that means he overplays certain players?

MEN

Would never take this rag too seriously

I know. But they quoted an ex Ajax manager so thought it might be something to consider. Perhaps if any Ajax fans here who watch them week in week out could shed some light on his rotation and also “in game management” when things are going wrong.

 

[Rolaholic]

Can't see De Jong leaving Barca but MDL could be a transformational signing for us if ETH joined and pursued him

 

[pratyush_utd]

The downside about Enrique is that he will have less time to prepare before the pre season starts due to World Cup. I don’t want my next manager not having enough time to prepare for analysing his squad and new signings.

Its like writing off next season as well. And we wont back Rangnick in the summer as well as he is short term appointment. Could end up 2 years without CL. I would prefer a manger that can start from June 1st

 

[MonkeysMagic]

I'm convinced Lopetegui must be circling the Cafe or how else do you explain the 1 vote he has?!

 

[Rolaholic]

I'm convinced Lopetegui must be circling the Cafe or how else do you explain the 1 vote he has?!

The lone masochist on the caf

 

[United in sin]

They lose a game and that means he overplays certain players?

MEN

I know. But they quoted an ex Ajax manager so thought it might be something to consider. Perhaps if any Ajax fans here who watch them week in week out could shed some light on his rotation and also “in game management” when things are going wrong.

Nuh it's actually something he's been criticized for by Ajax fans. It's the only constant criticism of him but they still love the guy. For instance he was criticized for keeping Blind at LB against Benfica in the CL first leg draw of their tie when Blind was struggling. The fans wanted Nico Tagliafico there. He's a fan favorite at leftback

https://www.allaboutajax.com/2021/12/back-to-the-top-the-transformation-of-afc-ajax/

"In what was a special campaign three years ago, the starting XI was almost always the same for Ten Hag. Whilst a lack of rotation is the case this season, the quality in depth is much more significant this time around."

 

[tomaldinho1]

I'm convinced Lopetegui must be circling the Cafe or how else do you explain the 1 vote he has?!

To be fair I saw some posters saying Simeone was their top pick so maybe they like that dull brand of effective football?

The poll shows how the hype train has fully left the station, I can’t fathom how in a straight choice between Enrique and ETH, ETH is at nearly 90%

 

[Silverman]

You cannot compare. I don't know of many managers going for interviews without their clubs knowledge.
PSG and Spain will not allow those two to go imo.

I'm not saying they'll stop them.
I can't imagine Poch going for an Interview and then strolling past Leonardo at the PSG training ground without any issues.

 

[Rolaholic]

To be fair I saw some posters saying Simeone was their top pick so maybe they like that dull brand of effective football?

The poll shows how the hype train has fully left the station, I can’t fathom how in a straight choice between Enrique and ETH, ETH is at nearly 90%

Quite certain the vast majority of that near 90% would be fine with Enrique but probably just don't imagine it being realistic.

If he were out of a job currently it might be different but there's zero chance he doesn't lead them into the next World Cup and by that time, we'll already be near halfway into the next season

 

[tomaldinho1]

Quite certain the vast majority of that near 90% would be fine with Enrique but probably just don't imagine it being realistic.

If he were out of a job currently it might be different but there's zero chance he doesn't lead them into the next World Cup and by that time, we'll already be near halfway into the next season

That’s true and why he seems unrealistic to me, just a shame if he was actually keen and we don’t just wait in my opinion.

 

[Withnail]

Quite certain the vast majority of that near 90% would be fine with Enrique but probably just don't imagine it being realistic.

If he were out of a job currently it might be different but there's zero chance he doesn't lead them into the next World Cup and by that time, we'll already be near halfway into the next season

Agreed, he isn't a viable candidate if he's not available til November so I'm not sure why anyone even bothered voting for him.

 

[Frank Grimes]

I'm with the guy who said Rodgers deserves a place on the shortlist. Still rate him on a similar level to Pochettino tbh.
I wouldn't vote for him btw.

 

[Withnail]

That’s true and why he seems unrealistic to me, just a shame if he was actually keen and we don’t just wait in my opinion.

Are you forgetting the WC is a fiasco or are you suggesting we should wait til November for our new manager to officially start work?

 

[tomaldinho1]

Are you forgetting the WC is a fiasco or are you suggesting we should wait til November for our new manager to officially start work?

Wouldn’t be until Christmas I don’t think - how could I forget the shambles that is coming this winter.

 

[Withnail]

Wouldn’t be until Christmas I don’t think - how could I forget the shambles that is coming this winter.

Well yes I was only throwing that out there as I keep forgetting but I've a terrible memory.

So you are suggesting we wait til Christmas for the new manager? Waiting that long seems like madness to me. Do you rate Enrique that much higher than the other candidates?

 

[Andycoleno9]

Enrique has WC with Spain so it would be plain stupid to throw away another season just to get him. Lopetegui is a meh. Good coach but nothing else.
Damn, i can't decide between Poch and ETH or to be precise, i want them both. Win win situation for me

 

[DeGea’sFeet]

Nuh it's actually something he's been criticized for by Ajax fans. It's the only constant criticism of him but they still love the guy. For instance he was criticized for keeping Blind at LB against Benfica in the CL first leg draw of their tie when Blind was struggling. The fans wanted Nico Tagliafico there. He's a fan favorite at leftback

https://www.allaboutajax.com/2021/12/back-to-the-top-the-transformation-of-afc-ajax/

"In what was a special campaign three years ago, the starting XI was almost always the same for Ten Hag. Whilst a lack of rotation is the case this season, the quality in depth is much more significant this time around."

What’s his in game management like, eg when Ajax are drawing or losing with 20-10 minutes left does he make good subs and tactical changes?

I realise might be hard to answer and that for managers like Ten Hag /Pep etc tactical changes are less noticeable and more subtle eg might involve pushing CB slightly higher, or making the front 3 narrower or wider, CM positional changes etc as opposed to managers like Mourinho where there is a clear change in style when seeking a goal.

 

[Herschel Krustofsky]

I can’t fathom how in a straight choice between Enrique and ETH, ETH is at nearly 90%

I voted ETH as, I think, waiting for Enrique would be damaging to the club.

 

[Blood Mage]

I think Goldbridge is right on this one, the United hierarchy only have eyes for Poch but unless PSG sack him they know they will struggle to spin it in a positive light due to Ten Hag being cheaper and more highly rated by the fans. If PSG keep Poch in a job I think they will reluctantly hire Ten Hag.

 

[Judas]

I think Goldbridge is right on this one, the United hierarchy only have eyes for Poch but unless PSG sack him they know they will struggle to spin it in a positive light due to Ten Hag being cheaper and more highly rated by the fans. If PSG keep Poch in a job I think they will reluctantly hire Ten Hag.

The fan favourite is Ten Hag, I can't see the Glazers going against the public majority unless he decides against joining us.

 

[Hughie77]

ETH is clear fav now, let's see apparently there still taking interviews? And I've read some Dutch journo saying if UTD don't move quick enough ETH has had offers from another top European club who's In CL.

 

[DJ_21]

We were able to interview ETH because Ajax knows he's leaving in the summer.
How on earth will they be able to interview Poch or Enrique in the immediate future.

Wouldn’t there current clubs have to give them permission to come for an interview? Pochettino doesn’t know where he stands yet with psg but if there’s a chance of us taking him and paying them compensation then they’ll let him talk to us.

What’s his in game management like, eg when Ajax are drawing or losing with 20-10 minutes left does he make good subs and tactical changes?

I realise might be hard to answer and that for managers like Ten Hag /Pep etc tactical changes are less noticeable and more subtle eg might involve pushing CB slightly higher, or making the front 3 narrower or wider, CM positional changes etc as opposed to managers like Mourinho where there is a clear change in style when seeking a goal.

I believe he only ever has a plan a. One way of playing but it’s a way that should get us results more then not. Guardiola only has 1 way though to be honest. I read up the other day of him saying he had to make changes In one of them games he was losing at halve time and they turned it around. Might of been the game against feyernoord not sure.

 

[Blood Mage]

The fan favourite is Ten Hag, I can't see the Glazers going against the public majority unless he decides against joining us.

Ferguson wants Poch and he still has massive influence at the club.

 

[Suv666]

Rivaldo approves

Someone should ask Ja Rule

 

[Amadaeus]

@Amadaeus will be upset

Not really, I like ETH. If you check the original thread, I was one of his first supporters when fans on here didn't even rate him. Look at the first few page of that thread for proof.

I just know that poch is the better choice as he has experience managing egos, playing great football, accomplished in a tough league, and winning trophies at an acceptable level eg, he won both French cup and about to walk the league. Moreover gotten to the semi final of the champion league. Cafe majority is typically wrong as shown with our past manager and the love in for Ole. I am not saying that ETH will not do well here. He might win a few cups and have us playing decent football, but poch will get us to the level closer to sir Alex. That is why he is harder to attain than eth because he is the manager we need.

 

[Rolaholic]

Someone should ask Ja Rule

 

[Sviken]

as he has experience managing egos

Yeah, and what is that experience doing for him at the moment? About to be sacked. If he can't cut it at PSG, which are a clown circus similar to us, what makes you think United would be any different?

 

[Mainoldo]

Someone should ask Ja Rule

 

[Amadaeus]

Yeah, and what is that experience doing for him at the moment? About to be sacked. If he can't cut it at PSG, which are a clown circus similar to us, what makes you think United would be any different?

This is a Leonardo team, coached by Pochettino. Pochettino has asked for more control so they can identify better target than the dysfunctional galaciticos signing Leonardo made. Psg has always been a circus and that is why tuchel came out and said it is easier to managing lukaku than the circus at psg. If psg can aligned their vision with poch, they will see more organizations and structure as he implemented at his previous club. Unlike psg, united doesn't have a Leonardo, plus the players here want Pochettino. So it will be easier to created a more organized club here that will lead us to glory

 

[Sviken]

This is a Leonardo team, coached by Pochettino. Pochettino has asked for more control so they can identify better target than the dysfunctional galaciticos signing Leonardo made. Psg has always been a circus and that is why tuchel came out and said it is easier to managing lukaku than the circus at psg. If psg can aligned their vision with poch, they will see more organizations and structure as he implemented at his previous club. Unlike psg, united doesn't have a Leonardo, plus the players here want Pochettino. So it will be easier to created a more organized club here that will lead us to glory

But here's the thing - Tuchel got better results with PSG than Poch and I certainly don't think Tuchel is good enough to challenge Guardiola or Klopp. And these clowns (i wouldn't even call them players) here at the club want is the last thing we should be concerned about. They've proven time and time again that they are not good enough and that they don't have the right mentality for this club. This is actually the opposite of an endorsement and should be treated as such by you.

 

[NewYorkRed]

Can't see De Jong leaving Barca but MDL could be a transformational signing for us if ETH joined and pursued him

Yeah De Jong would be a dream signing but it’s never going to happen. MDL has looked really bad every time I’ve seen Juve play (admittedly not a lot) so I’d rather we stay away from him and try to get Jimenez from Atleti instead, he would take our defense to another level.

 

[Amadaeus]

But here's the thing - Tuchel got better results with PSG than Poch and I certainly don't think Tuchel is good enough to challenge Guardiola or Klopp. And these clowns (i wouldn't even call them players) here at the club want is the last thing we should be concerned about. They've proven time and time again that they are not good enough and that they don't have the right mentality for this club. This is actually the opposite of an endorsement and should be treated as such by you.

Tuchel team was more balanced. Anyone that understand football will know that adding Messi along with mbappe and neymar will cause a dysfunctional front three that is unsuitable for modern football. Modern football typically emphasize work ethic and these three barely have none. Regardless, with these three poch still won multiple French cups, about to walk the league(only accomplishment with these three) and went to the champion league semi final. You have to remember that, with the more balance team, he got psg to the semi final. Regardless, even if you said tuchel did better he got sacked and still got seen as a failure.

 

[Blood Mage]

If Ten Hag is our next manager players like De Jong, who owes his career to Ten Hag basically, would be more tempted to join us which is exciting. Whereas with Poch they will remember that he failed with Mbappe, Neymar and Messi at his disposal.

 

[AndyMUFC86]

Spain, had them playing really good footy at the euros. Knocked out in the semis by the eventual winners.

Enrique needs a lot of technical players to succeed. That's why he was a success at Barca where he won the Treble, and failure at Roma.

As things stand he'd do so much more better at City than with our current lot.

Personally I’d be happy to see Enrique get the job with him given time to develop the team/players. But I’d also be happy for ETH to get it with the same in mind. Both have a philosophy that they stick to and look to evolve with the game!

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

To be fair I saw some posters saying Simeone was their top pick so maybe they like that dull brand of effective football?

The poll shows how the hype train has fully left the station, I can’t fathom how in a straight choice between Enrique and ETH, ETH is at nearly 90%

Enrique is a non starter. There’s no way he leaves Spain before the World Cup and we need a manager in the summer so it doesn’t work. It’s not that people don’t rate Enrique they just know there’s zero chance of it happening so why waste your vote.