Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%
  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%
  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%

  • Total voters
    1,534
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He isn’t much shorter than evens which doesn’t look like a done deal at all

Poch out to 11/2 though so it is looking more promising
 
It’s amazing how cheap it is to acquire managers under a contract compared to players
 

I hate how this club drags everything out, its so poorly run


To be fair that’s just a standard press office response to the question, and they’re never gonna say anything different until they have the deal done

It could well be complete but just waiting for right time to announce
 


United are urging caution over the Ten Hag speculation. Sources insist that a research process overseen by football director John Murtough and technical director Darren Fletcher was only completed at the start of this month, allowing initial conversations with candidates to get underway which have now evolved into formal interviews.
 
To be fair that’s just a standard press office response to the question, and they’re never gonna say anything different until they have the deal done

It could well be complete but just waiting for right time to announce
This is what I think. I believe they've decided on their man and things will naturally drag on for a bit.
 
There's no doubt in my mind if Ten Hag comes in under this current setup he would also fail. Only Sir Alex could do wonders under the Glazers, it really takes someone that extraordinary to win things under these lot. From what I've read there's been literally no changes in the positions within the structure above, it's still all just glazer puppets and Fletcher as a technical director. We can only see a real big difference once those roles become occupied by people qualified for the roles.

Richard Arnold and Murthough are just Woodward with different names.

People will put lot of pressure on Ten Hag, i see many expect him to challenge for PL in his first year...if he doesn't, and ends up 4th-5th, it will be a massive let down.

Big reminder that Klopp finished 8th in his first season at Liverpool and Guardiola 4th at City.
 
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Pressure is part and parcel of the game at United. But the United faithful will be patient with the next coach imo. I think most fans understand that being patient and building/recruiting towards a guiding principle will take time.
 
I still think ETH is the smokescreen for the club to get Poch.

I want ETH and Rangnick combo to be clear.
 
People will put lot of pressure on Ten Hag, i see many expect him to challenge for PL in his first year...if he doesn't, and ends up 4th-5th, it will be a massive let down.

Big reminder that Klopp finished 8th in his first season at Liverpool and Guardiola 4th at City.

most fans won't expect a title challenge, hardly any I would guess

the sentiment around the capabilities of our squad at the moment is at an all time low
 
Again, I agree- but your original post said defenders that play more like playmakers and neither Dias nor VVD serve that function.

But regardless, excited to see what changes ETH makes !

btw- on tha yaya point; Pep could have played me at CB in that barca team and they still would’ve won, that team never let the opposition get the ball haha.

When I said plays more like playmaker is that they are used to make progressive ball towards their attackers more than their deep midfielders. You need to watch more of VVD, VVD is a better progressive passer from the back than Fabinho. Lot of Liverpool fans last season keep saying that the reason why they struggled was that they missed VVD ball playing ability.



Do you know why Pep’s team doesn’t let opposition get the ball? Because they have players who are comfortable with their feet to keep possession even under pressure. Doesn’t get panicked, which is why Yaya or Fernandinho were used as CB before. If Pep has someone who is not comfortable with their feet then his team can’t play like that and the same with ETH. Which is why I said it’s important for their system.
 
Hope so mate, ten Hag will bring excitement for most us fans. He’ll bring fresh and new ideas. He’s going to destroy the premier league in a few seasons. Can’t wait for the games against city/Liverpool under ten Hag.

I am going to play it down until he's had time to put his own imprint on this team
 
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Perhaps but FSG have arguably a worse setup and got Klopp. Also I did think Woodward was a huge problem, not that he was a puppet but he had a massive ego. He was making footballing decisions when he didn’t have a clue, playing real life FM. Now he’s gone there seems to be a bit more direction.

A man can only hope things get better. Hag is my top choice and it seems we’re getting him.
You are right about FSG but Klopp should not be used as a comparison imo. They struck gold with him, he's a different breed of manager and there's very few like him around. That's why we need men at the top who has a clear vision and knows exactly what they want. This whole process of interviewing multiple managers, all with different approaches is a clear indicator thay they don't and a reason why I voice this opinion.
 
This is the ownership and board that have got us here in the first place. They're incompetent.

I agree with that statement but I don't think the discussion is binary

to a large extent the owners want the same as the fans - a successful team - because that makes them more money

Woody was the wrong person to have in the role, but he's gone now

since the new tenure there appears to be a willingness to give power on footballing decisions to footballing people, and acknowledgement that they didn't know what they were doing on that front

we appointed a DoF finally, and brought in Ralf - an outspoken football man who certainly isn't yer typical Glazer yes-man

finally, the Glazers are all about PR and keeping the fans on-side, because they are not morons and understand the importance of brand to the value of their investment. Doing some under-hand shit like leak stories about ETH (who the fans want) only to turn around and appoint Poch (who the fans hate), would be PR suicide at this point, coming off the back of the European league debacle and another failed manager
 
There are only two points separating Ajax and PSV in their league table. Even if the appointment had been decided, I doubt it will be announced before the end of the season.
 
There are only two points separating Ajax and PSV in their league table. Even if the appointment had been decided, I doubt it will be announced before the end of the season.

Yeah people shouldn't compare announcement to Klopp or Guardiola as both of them were out of work at the time
 
There are only two points separating Ajax and PSV in their league table. Even if the appointment had been decided, I doubt it will be announced before the end of the season.
Kind of a weird take. They arent going to throw in the towel because Erik is off. There's plenty of press talk that he's gone this summer period.
 
I don't think anything is done. Utd can easily still appoint Pochettino and come out and say they did their due diligence and have decided Pochettino is the man. Don't celebrate just yet.

Bookies odds mean sweet feck all as well. Not trying to be a party pooper but best we don't get excited when it can still go either way.
 
It's been a very long day and this made me laugh for quite a long time. I appreciate it.

For some reason, the first image in my head was Maguire standing there with an empty plate and confused expression
:lol: now I can't get the image out of my head.
and continue with Maguire looking at Rashford desperately
 
There's no doubt in my mind if Ten Hag comes in under this current setup he would also fail. Only Sir Alex could do wonders under the Glazers, it really takes someone that extraordinary to win things under these lot. From what I've read there's been literally no changes in the positions within the structure above, it's still all just glazer puppets and Fletcher as a technical director. We can only see a real big difference once those roles become occupied by people qualified for the roles.

Richard Arnold and Murthough are just Woodward with different names.

Too right. Nothing against Fletcher but he didn't pay his dues and earn his position granted by Murtough. That role should've been given to Butt in my opinion but he clashed with Glazer boy Murtough and saw his way out
 
Too right. Nothing against Fletcher but he didn't pay his dues and earn his position granted by Murtough. That role should've been given to Butt in my opinion but he clashed with Glazer boy Murtough and saw his way out
You're talking utter nonsense.

Butt was only in charge of the academy temporarily and was replaced by Nick Cox who is far more experienced at actually managing a academy and was a outside hire.

Fletcher's role at the club has been defined and we know his remit at the club, which involves working with the youth and assisting in bringing youth players to the club.
 
You're talking utter nonsense.

Butt was only in charge of the academy temporarily and was replaced by Nick Cox who is far more experienced at actually managing a academy and was a outside hire.

Fletcher's role at the club has been defined and we know his remit at the club, which involves working with the youth and assisting in bringing youth players to the club.

I've never seen a youth team recruiter sitting beside the manager and first team coach before Fletcher. His position is definitely not well defined.
 
I've never seen a youth team recruiter sitting beside the manager and first team coach before Fletcher. His position is definitely not well defined.
His role at the club is absolutely defined and he's also a coach. And him sitting next to Rangnick is the choice of the interim Head Coach unless someone can provide evidence to the contrary. We've lost several people from the previous backroom staff and Rangnick himself has only brought in one coach, which is understandable due to the better coaches being in permanent jobs.
 
I agree with that statement but I don't think the discussion is binary

to a large extent the owners want the same as the fans - a successful team - because that makes them more money

Woody was the wrong person to have in the role, but he's gone now

since the new tenure there appears to be a willingness to give power on footballing decisions to footballing people, and acknowledgement that they didn't know what they were doing on that front

we appointed a DoF finally, and brought in Ralf - an outspoken football man who certainly isn't yer typical Glazer yes-man

finally, the Glazers are all about PR and keeping the fans on-side, because they are not morons and understand the importance of brand to the value of their investment. Doing some under-hand shit like leak stories about ETH (who the fans want) only to turn around and appoint Poch (who the fans hate), would be PR suicide at this point, coming off the back of the European league debacle and another failed manager
Good post
 
Letting everyone know you have interviewed a manager and then not picking him sounds weird. I think the line about following the process through is just to stall the press while they get a deal done, as Ajax stil have a lot to play for, same with us tbh.
Once Ajax win the title, this will be announced
 
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