I hate how this club drags everything out, its so poorly run
United are urging caution over the Ten Hag speculation. Sources insist that a research process overseen by football director John Murtough and technical director Darren Fletcher was only completed at the start of this month, allowing initial conversations with candidates to get underway which have now evolved into formal interviews.
This is what I think. I believe they've decided on their man and things will naturally drag on for a bit.To be fair that’s just a standard press office response to the question, and they’re never gonna say anything different until they have the deal done
It could well be complete but just waiting for right time to announce
There's no doubt in my mind if Ten Hag comes in under this current setup he would also fail. Only Sir Alex could do wonders under the Glazers, it really takes someone that extraordinary to win things under these lot. From what I've read there's been literally no changes in the positions within the structure above, it's still all just glazer puppets and Fletcher as a technical director. We can only see a real big difference once those roles become occupied by people qualified for the roles.
Richard Arnold and Murthough are just Woodward with different names.
Yup look at the pressure Ralf is getting.People will put lot of pressure on Ten Hag, i see many expect him to challenge for for PL in his first year...if he doesn't, it will be a massive let down.
People will put lot of pressure on Ten Hag, i see many expect him to challenge for PL in his first year...if he doesn't, and ends up 4th-5th, it will be a massive let down.
Big reminder that Klopp finished 8th in his first season at Liverpool and Guardiola 4th at City.
I still think ETH is the smokescreen for the club to get Poch.
I want ETH and Rangnick combo to be clear.
you really think they'd still want to do this with fan sentiment currently in the toilet?
I can't see it
Again, I agree- but your original post said defenders that play more like playmakers and neither Dias nor VVD serve that function.
But regardless, excited to see what changes ETH makes !
btw- on tha yaya point; Pep could have played me at CB in that barca team and they still would’ve won, that team never let the opposition get the ball haha.
Hope so mate, ten Hag will bring excitement for most us fans. He’ll bring fresh and new ideas. He’s going to destroy the premier league in a few seasons. Can’t wait for the games against city/Liverpool under ten Hag.
You are right about FSG but Klopp should not be used as a comparison imo. They struck gold with him, he's a different breed of manager and there's very few like him around. That's why we need men at the top who has a clear vision and knows exactly what they want. This whole process of interviewing multiple managers, all with different approaches is a clear indicator thay they don't and a reason why I voice this opinion.Perhaps but FSG have arguably a worse setup and got Klopp. Also I did think Woodward was a huge problem, not that he was a puppet but he had a massive ego. He was making footballing decisions when he didn’t have a clue, playing real life FM. Now he’s gone there seems to be a bit more direction.
A man can only hope things get better. Hag is my top choice and it seems we’re getting him.
This is the ownership and board that have got us here in the first place. They're incompetent.
I'm just waiting for all of the Tier 1 Journo's to pop up and put out the usual brief from the club because right now its all speculations
There are only two points separating Ajax and PSV in their league table. Even if the appointment had been decided, I doubt it will be announced before the end of the season.
Kind of a weird take. They arent going to throw in the towel because Erik is off. There's plenty of press talk that he's gone this summer period.There are only two points separating Ajax and PSV in their league table. Even if the appointment had been decided, I doubt it will be announced before the end of the season.
now I can't get the image out of my head.It's been a very long day and this made me laugh for quite a long time. I appreciate it.
For some reason, the first image in my head was Maguire standing there with an empty plate and confused expression
There's no doubt in my mind if Ten Hag comes in under this current setup he would also fail. Only Sir Alex could do wonders under the Glazers, it really takes someone that extraordinary to win things under these lot. From what I've read there's been literally no changes in the positions within the structure above, it's still all just glazer puppets and Fletcher as a technical director. We can only see a real big difference once those roles become occupied by people qualified for the roles.
Richard Arnold and Murthough are just Woodward with different names.
You're talking utter nonsense.Too right. Nothing against Fletcher but he didn't pay his dues and earn his position granted by Murtough. That role should've been given to Butt in my opinion but he clashed with Glazer boy Murtough and saw his way out
You're talking utter nonsense.
Butt was only in charge of the academy temporarily and was replaced by Nick Cox who is far more experienced at actually managing a academy and was a outside hire.
Fletcher's role at the club has been defined and we know his remit at the club, which involves working with the youth and assisting in bringing youth players to the club.
His role at the club is absolutely defined and he's also a coach. And him sitting next to Rangnick is the choice of the interim Head Coach unless someone can provide evidence to the contrary. We've lost several people from the previous backroom staff and Rangnick himself has only brought in one coach, which is understandable due to the better coaches being in permanent jobs.I've never seen a youth team recruiter sitting beside the manager and first team coach before Fletcher. His position is definitely not well defined.
Good postI agree with that statement but I don't think the discussion is binary
to a large extent the owners want the same as the fans - a successful team - because that makes them more money
Woody was the wrong person to have in the role, but he's gone now
since the new tenure there appears to be a willingness to give power on footballing decisions to footballing people, and acknowledgement that they didn't know what they were doing on that front
we appointed a DoF finally, and brought in Ralf - an outspoken football man who certainly isn't yer typical Glazer yes-man
finally, the Glazers are all about PR and keeping the fans on-side, because they are not morons and understand the importance of brand to the value of their investment. Doing some under-hand shit like leak stories about ETH (who the fans want) only to turn around and appoint Poch (who the fans hate), would be PR suicide at this point, coming off the back of the European league debacle and another failed manager