Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%

  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%

  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%

  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%

  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%
  • Total voters
    1,534
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The report whose authenticity some of you experts are discarding is in several papers.

Feels like a typical briefing from Baby FC or the club's hierarchy directly to start the propaganda for Poch.
 
talking robot said:
Who is briefing this?
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Anyone that wants a big new contract to do nothing for the next 5 years that no-one else will offer them...

The list of suspects:

Lingard, Maguire, Jones, Shaw, Pogba, AWB, De Gea as he won't suit Ten Hag or Enrique, Bailly, Martial, Grant, Fred, Matic, Mike Phelan, Mike Phelan's shorts, Woodward as he wants back in, Murtough, Judge, Arnold, Gary Neville, Woodward's secretary who also wants back in, the tea lady, the IT guy who overheard Arnold on the phone to his wife...

Most likely the same person who keeps leaking the team before matches. We leak like a sieve.
 
Everything I see seems to be begging us to take Poch as our permanent manager, almost to the extent that all these 'experts' know he's the wrong appointment for us and they are willing us to take him on.

They'll be laughing their heads off when it doesn't work out.

We need an over achieving manager if we are going to go to the next level, Poch is no longer that manager.

I'm fully aboard the Ten Haag train, my 2nd choice would be Zidane.

And who gives a feck what the players want, they can just as easily underperform for Poch as for any other manager.
 
Jesus, are people really believing the reports that United players are "clamouring" for Poch? One of the players probably asked Shaw what Poch was like as a manager and he said yea he's good. That's it. Clamouring FFS.
 
Luis Enrique would be my choice too but yes the WC situation does complicate things!
 
Sounds like we are looking at the right people. If Ten Hag or Enrique were given time and money to get in players with more technical calibre, I'm convinced they'd succeed here.
 
All else being equal Enrique would be the outstanding candidate really as he ticks pretty much every box. It's just the timing that's the problem.

Plus he may well be eyeing up the City job himself once Guardiola leaves.
 
Rightnr said:
The report whose authenticity some of you experts are discarding is in several papers.

Feels like a typical briefing from Baby FC or the club's hierarchy directly to start the propaganda for Poch.
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Who are Baby FC?

Do they play as in the same league as Mates FC and Finished Club?
 
Rightnr said:
The report whose authenticity some of you experts are discarding is in several papers.

Feels like a typical briefing from Baby FC or the club's hierarchy directly to start the propaganda for Poch.
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Being in several papers doesn’t make it true, despite your ‘feelings’
 
Poch is gonna get it lads, i feel the board will favour him because of previous premier league experience despite him winning nothing.

Ten Haag is more of a gamble but he fits the ethos more for me, and i can see why so many fans favour him above others.
 
Seems like more managers will be/could be available in 2023 (Enrique, Mancini, ten Hag's contract with Ajax expires in 2023 as well) than this summer. Even if Klopp or Pep leave Liverpool/City, they'll probably have quality replacement ready to take over.
 
Even PSG being awful in the CL wouldn’t stop the astonishing desire for Poch so many at the club seem to have. It just feels like they can’t resist the urge for the dull one.
 
Dec9003 said:
I can’t believe people are taking that report about senior players wanting Pochettino seriously, especially then pointing out they don’t want Poch for that reason. :lol: It’s rubbish, paper talk, take no notice.
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When its something that suits a narrative, fans will lap it up.

Do fans actually think the club is going to ask the players who they want as manager? Also which senior players? Ronaldo? Pogba? They may not even be at the club.
 
James Peril said:
So some guy on the web says Poch is decent, that’s his limit. Literally got Spurs to a bloody CL final, Spurs! Eddie Howe is a decent manager, David Moyes is a decent manager… Pochettino is objectively better than just decent.
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I'm saying for a big team level. Pochettino is nothing more than decent for that. He's not on par with the elite managers, and has shown nothing despite a lot of time now that he should be there. He's in the 3rd tier if anything, considering Pep and Klopp are top tier, and then others like Conte/Nagelsmann/Simeone/Tuchel etc are 2nd tier. He also doesn't really play good football. High energy stuff, but it's not like he puts in a very attractive system of play, or a dominant system of play, or even an elite defensive system of play. We aren't beating Pep or Klopp or Tuchel with Pochettino as our manager.

Ten Hag has done fantastic things with Ajax, while implementing a ridiculously good style of play, and a ridiculous level of overachievement relative to their individual ability and resources. If there's any manager out there who can be "the next Pep or Klopp", it's literally Ten Hag, based on the success he's had with the style of play and how he's done in Europe as well. With him, you can hope for a system that can really reach the top... With Pochettino, we are hoping for an overperformance year while others underperform and we sneak a trophy here and there. It's limiting. Pochettino's ceiling to me just screams top 4/a distant title challenge and no more.
 
We've had numerous briefings in the papers in the past where United said they will or won't do something e.g. won't buy anyone to set up the joke of a transfer window we just had but apparently now looking at a similar style briefing is having feelings.

Some people really want to feel smart and like making up dumb theories instead of following the obvious line of reasoning that it's club propaganda
 
sugar_kane said:
People need to get used to the idea of Poch, I suspect Ten Hag doesn’t even want the job if he’s got a chance of inheriting Pep’s City.

We have to accept that we’re just not that appealing as a club right now, we’ve been run like a circus for nearly 10 years. That’s why we have to resort to paying stupid wages to players at the ends of their career eg. Ronaldo, Cavani.

If we can let Ralf (or whoever) properly repair the club this could change in a couple of years, but now? No chance.
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Yet Klopp went to the shit show that was Liverpool and turned it around.

We want a manager who would accept a challenge like United, to try to restore us to greatness.
 
OK I get it about Ten Hag but to my eyes Poch is the right fit.

Unfortunately Ten Hag will come and be a huge flop, and we will be here again and debate about that he needs time to implement his ideas, we're missing x,y,z player blah blah.

A lot of people are taking the PL know how (that Poch has) a bit light.

It makes a huge difference coming from the Dutch league or the Bundesliga to the PL and a lot of players and managers learned it the hard way.
Ten Hag coming to the PL will be like Ole when he came from Norway. The Dutch league is a two team league with almost inexistent defending. That's why almost every year the top scorer will be a has been player, or flopped in the PL player etc.

At this moment the top scorer is Sébastien Haller who couldn't nail a place in the starting 11 of West Ham, and 4th top scorer is Ricky van Wolfswinkel.

I really can't wrap my head around the idea that people are dismissing what Poch did with Spurs and praise what Ten Hag does with Ajax.
 
Rightnr said:
We've had numerous briefings in the papers in the past where United said they will or won't do something e.g. won't buy anyone to set up the joke of a transfer window we just had but apparently now looking at a similar style briefing is having feelings.

Some people really want to feel smart and like making up dumb theories instead of following the obvious line of reasoning that it's club propaganda
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Briefing FC
 
Karlos PFC said:
Unfortunately Ten Hag will come and be a huge flop, and we will be here again and debate about that he needs time to implement his ideas, we're missing x,y,z player blah blah
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If he flops, he flops. At least we can be happy we tried and it didn't work out. With Poch it's going to be more or less the same, thus admitting defeat. I rather risk it and go for greatness rather than wallow in misery.
 
romufc said:
When its something that suits a narrative, fans will lap it up.

Do fans actually think the club is going to ask the players who they want as manager? Also which senior players? Ronaldo? Pogba? They may not even be at the club.
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It’s madness, the kind of thing that Mark Goldbridge will no doubt lap up and run with, he shares similar audiences with those who believe tabloid papers.
 
stefan92 said:
A lot of players don't watch much football, so it would be bo surprise if they did not see much of Ajax. A few players already met and lost to ten Hag's Ajax, but that's far from being the majority of the squad.

And always remember what manager legend Hans Meyer said about players: "In every squad there are at least five complete idiots, and one of them would live on the streets if he couldn't play football."

Should tell you sonething about player opinions...
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Excellent quote and to varying degrees it applies to most groups, of professionals, people etc.
 
Karlos PFC said:
It makes a huge difference coming from the Dutch league or the Bundesliga to the PL and a lot of players and managers learned it the hard way.
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You mean like that dude who has a relegation on his CV and ended up as Liverpool manager?
 
Dec9003 said:
It’s madness, the kind of thing that Mark Goldbridge will no doubt lap up and run with, he shares similar audiences with those who believe tabloid papers.
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I thought he was good before but I was wrong, it feels like he has a constant agenda against the club recently.

He is out there claiming the board is throwing Rangnick under the bus because of all these stories, especially the Lingard one.

If I was on the board and the Greenwood thing happened, I wouldn't want to let Lingard go either, I mean its common sense right? Marital was gone, Greenwood suspended so its very logical we keep Lingard. Yes it costs us money but we will need him.

Its becoming tiresome, we just have to let Rangnick do his job, let the board decide who they want. I think Rangnick will have influence in who the next manager is.
 
Rightnr said:
We've had numerous briefings in the papers in the past where United said they will or won't do something e.g. won't buy anyone to set up the joke of a transfer window we just had but apparently now looking at a similar style briefing is having feelings.

Some people really want to feel smart and like making up dumb theories instead of following the obvious line of reasoning that it's club propaganda
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But what's the purpose of this briefing? To prepare the atmospere for a Pochettino appointment?
Then apparently they have't taken the fans temperature about what they think about player power and the players in general, at the moment, because it's the kind of PR that can backfire, no?
 
All I know is the players should have no input in who comes. Recipe for disaster.
 
If Pochettino fails to win the Champions League, I think he will be sacked.

Already knocked out of the French Cup and winning the league, is hardly an accomplishment, with the money and players they have.
 
The difference between Liverpool and us is, we are run by the Bank.
They don't have a huge debt that needs to be serviced.
And of course the Glazers must be paid their dividends.

This is why they do not take risks.
They bring in merchandise selling and ad revenue generating players.
They will not risk players on the wrong side age wise.
The priority is not football.

So whoever is the manager is handicapped from the start.
 
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