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People need to get used to the idea of Poch, I suspect Ten Hag doesn’t even want the job if he’s got a chance of inheriting Pep’s City.
We have to accept that we’re just not that appealing as a club right now, we’ve been run like a circus for nearly 10 years. That’s why we have to resort to paying stupid wages to players at the ends of their career eg. Ronaldo, Cavani.
If we can let Ralf (or whoever) properly repair the club this could change in a couple of years, but now? No chance.
We have to accept that we’re just not that appealing as a club right now, we’ve been run like a circus for nearly 10 years. That’s why we have to resort to paying stupid wages to players at the ends of their career eg. Ronaldo, Cavani.
If we can let Ralf (or whoever) properly repair the club this could change in a couple of years, but now? No chance.
My guess is that ETH will go to City, they'll continue doing well, and our fans will complain about the fact we missed out on him while completely overlooking the fact that City are well run and we're a total basket case.
It’s a good shortlist. I really like the idea of Enrique and he’d be my top choice if we could somehow get him, then ETH second purely for the exciting unknown factor over Poch who I have no doubt would do a solid job but not convinced he would do any more than that.
You sound offended but Klopp and Tuchel were doing great things at BVB in the Bundesliga, while not many actually do watch Ajax and the Dutch league
He'll have a chance but it's far from nailed on. If he rejects us in the hope of going to City, it wouldn't be a surprise is someone like Luis Enrique ends up taking the job after Pep.
I personally don't think ETH will be turning down offers in the hope something better may or may not come in a year's time.
I'm not offended at all and i'm in fact used to seeing uninformed opinions about coaches.
And Klopp was being talked about when he was at Mainz and hence his work at the small German club brought him to the attention of Dortmund. And the same applies to Tuchel.
While there’s a minute chance that Ten Hag may become City’s manager, Pep can’t be leaving City while Klopp is still the manager in the Prem, otherwise he‘ll be sweeping the league with the scousers in the next four years and i absolutely do not want that to happen
Hag, Poch and Enrique are all very good options, to be fair.
I agree. I think they’re probably the best options we can get, too. So happy Rodgers is no longer a serious name banded around.
Whatever the players want, we should do the opposite of. This lot have not shown any indication that they have a clue about what’s good for the future of the club.
It was ok but far from brilliant. Granted he made that Spurs team contenders but with Spurs as history has shown, always the bridesmaid, never the bride.
What has stood out in his time at Southampton, Spurs and PSG is that at times his players have shown a lack of discipline on the pitch in key games and that comes from the manager.
Don't get me wrong he is propbably one of the best options available, takes an unfashionable Southampton into a stable Prem team, takes Spurs to punching above their weight. The question mark though is he has pretty much all the riches at his finger tips and he can't seem to get a tune out of PSG. So could he take a Man Utd who are let's face it a top six side into a top 2 side, i'm not convinced.
Maybe Enrique is the one. Managed big personalities, plays good football on the eye, won the lot as player and manager and is also disciplined. I think United could do with a lot more of that in the dressing room
It's an interesting situation and I think Poch is getting some bad press here! When he went in to Spurs the headlines surrounding them were that their squad needed an overhaul - lots of players with big egos who weren't performing. Within 2 years he had a squad full of players playing for him and the team, playing great football. Importantly his relationships with the players were great which led to them signing long term contracts and, importantly, improving as players.
I'm not necessarily in the Poch camp though. I think more important, and as many of you have said/inferred, is that we need to take control back from the players. Jose made it him or Pogba and the board made their choice. Under Fergie there was no choice. Someone steps out of line they're gone. He wrote a whole book about how important control is. The board need to read it.
What I hope for the new manager is that the board no longer make him manage with his hands tied behind his back. For too long we've been run with the view that results don't matter commercially and so we just need big name assets. City and Liverpool (and us on the flip side) have proved this false. Hopefully thats the lesson the board needed.
Having seen a total upturn in the way we are now playing (despite the last 2 results) I would love to see more of Ralf in charge. I'm not sure change again, while the manager is obviously having a positive effect, is a wise move. Think the question in that situation is: why change?
I'm not necessarily in the Poch camp though. I think more important, and as many of you have said/inferred, is that we need to take control back from the players. Jose made it him or Pogba and the board made their choice. Under Fergie there was no choice. Someone steps out of line they're gone. He wrote a whole book about how important control is. The board need to read it.
What I hope for the new manager is that the board no longer make him manage with his hands tied behind his back. For too long we've been run with the view that results don't matter commercially and so we just need big name assets. City and Liverpool (and us on the flip side) have proved this false. Hopefully thats the lesson the board needed.
Having seen a total upturn in the way we are now playing (despite the last 2 results) I would love to see more of Ralf in charge. I'm not sure change again, while the manager is obviously having a positive effect, is a wise move. Think the question in that situation is: why change?
I don't know why everyone keeps saying this?
Has Pep come out and said he is leaving anytime soon?
Next season is the final season of his contract, so you'd expect them to be putting out feelers for potential replacements at the end of this season, unless he's indicated he's staying on.
That is a big risk waiting for next season hoping for a manager to leave right?
There are indications that Pep will stay on, saying how much he likes it at City, they have a young squad as well.
Luke Shaw is said to be in favour of Poch and I would presume the likes of De Gea and Wan Bissaka will probably also want Poch, because I can't see them surviving under Enrique or ten hag.
I doubt it’s even true to be honest
there’s no other reason to brief this other than to justify the decision to get Poch with the fans.. who I’m guessing they are aware isn’t a popular choice
The players, rightfully have no say.
Not really. If City reach out to him and say they're interested, but then Pep has a change of heart next season, its only a matter of time before another big club comes calling. So there's minimal risk for him taking his time choosing a club.
In which case things will change, but as things stand he's going at the end of next season and City will be planning accordingly. Unlike us they don't just wing it.
I'd be happy with any of the following - Enrique, ten hag, Potter.
I think you overestimate our illustrious board.
I doubt they are aware of anything but Pochettino's name, much less the prevailing opinion about him amongst the fans. They've heard is name before, therefore he is good enough. As opposed to Ten Hag who they only heard of last month.Didn't they also have no break from the CL final going directly into the new season?
If I'm remembering it correctly they had their first league match only a week after the final.
They lost 2 or 3 of their first games.
Agree about Man United manager job is less appealing nowadays. Unless a pre-agreement is in place, I am not sure any manager from smaller(no offence) clubs will wait for a particular job to get vacant as their stakes can plummet quickly due to their teams performance and another manager may be preferred for the role.
So some guy on the web says Poch is decent, that’s his limit. Literally got Spurs to a bloody CL final, Spurs! Eddie Howe is a decent manager, David Moyes is a decent manager… Pochettino is objectively better than just decent.
Best clip I've ever seen from Talksh!t€.
Who gives a feck what the players want? Don’t care if you’re even Ronaldo, you shouldn’t be able to dictate the head coach of the team.
Still prefer ETH as the choice. Poch has got to impress with PSG in the Champions League for me to come back onto actively wanting him. If he gets dumped out by Real in a comprehensive manner then he really should be off the list.
Still prefer ETH as the choice. Poch has got to impress with PSG in the Champions League for me to come back onto actively wanting him. If he gets dumped out by Real in a comprehensive manner then he really should be off the list.
I never listen to Talkshite but...nah, I'll continue never listening to Talkshite.
Based on what the players want, get anyone except for Poch. Do not want these feckers to have another guy to keep them in their comfort zone.
Sounds like we've gone full Arsenal. Everybody knows you never go full Arsenal.
I used to work for Philips. My direct boss was labelled a country boy too. Had not realised then that even in such a small country like the Netherlands there were such demarcated social classes. It didn't help that the great-granddaughter of the company was also in the same team as me ie 'reporting' to him.
I'm with you. Who the feck are the players to decide who we should have. Bunch of under achievers.
City's pretty methodical in their approach. It would make sense for Enrique to follow on after Pep -- just like at Barca but with his treble. The devil you know.
I bet a couple of 'journos' are laughing their tits off at all the United fans and other journos discussing this suggestion. I bet any money that it was a made-up story inspired by a few bevs on a slow news night or during the winter break.
I can’t believe people are taking that report about senior players wanting Pochettino seriously, especially then pointing out they don’t want Poch for that reason. It’s rubbish, paper talk, take no notice.
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