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Next Man Utd Manager Expected To Be Jose Mourinho Or David Moyes
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Madrid under Pellegrini finished with more points in 09/10 than they did in 10/11. This was the season before Mourinho added attacking talents the likes of Ozil and Di Maria to their already bloated squad.
I had very severe doubts about Mourinho from the start but i'll admit he was starting to win me over for simply being the best candidate. But things have changed now. Ever since he joined Real Madrid he's started to slip back into his worst habits and in some cases get even worse. The man is guaranteed to irritate and piss off people galore. When he comes up against a challenge he doesn't accept it graciously like Sir Alex does. He will find every excuse to use the dark arts of violence, gamesmanship and intimidation to win. We don't need that kind of personality at our club.
Mourinho simply doesn't have the class for Man Utd.
Mourinho simply doesn't have the class for Man Utd.
Second best manager around (after Fergie of course) but his stay at Real has done nothing to convince me that he should replace the great man. His teams play far too rigid and tactic-heavy a style for Manchester United. I like us to play an uninhibited way with a focus on entertaining the audience.
In fact I remember a decade ago, I used to really dislike Real, basically for being the other biggest club around at the time, signing our players and beating us in the CL, but I admired the style and class of their football. The likes of Zidane, Figo, Raul etc when managed properly were brilliant to watch. This Real team is just methodical and boring for me. It's all very robotic.
In fact I remember a decade ago, I used to really dislike Real, basically for being the other biggest club around at the time, signing our players and beating us in the CL, but I admired the style and class of their football. The likes of Zidane, Figo, Raul etc when managed properly were brilliant to watch. This Real team is just methodical and boring for me. It's all very robotic.
The ear twist on the Barcelona assistant is beneath a top manager, but I am unsure whether my opinion on Mourinho has lessen much. I wonder if this is all part of Mourinho's siege mentality and his way of taking the attention and pressure off his players by putting it all on him? He still remains the type of manager you can't stand if he is managing an opponent, but wouldn't mind if he was managing your club.
It would be interesting to know if Mourinho adds to Real Madrid's commercial endeavors or adversely affects them. I imagine that's a thin line and if he starts to hurt Real Madrid in the pocketbook, he will be out of there quickly and United wouldn't touch him either.
It would be interesting to know if Mourinho adds to Real Madrid's commercial endeavors or adversely affects them. I imagine that's a thin line and if he starts to hurt Real Madrid in the pocketbook, he will be out of there quickly and United wouldn't touch him either.
I think Mourinho has become too unpredictable, behaviour wise, for United. I can just imagine that board sitting around the table, Fergie also there, saying "can we really take a risk with this guy...what are we letting ourselves in for?"
Having said that, it sends shivers down my spine that the man allegedly ready to be installed as our new manager when Fergie announced his retirement all those years ago was Sven.....
Having said that, it sends shivers down my spine that the man allegedly ready to be installed as our new manager when Fergie announced his retirement all those years ago was Sven.....
Mourinho is still by far the best candidate to replace Sir Alex, nothing has changed.
Mourinho had Champions League Quarter Finals and Semi-Finals to contend with. And he won a trophy.
Good article.
This is an excellent point.
I think I remember saying something similar at the time. The whole fiasco was supposed to be an example of his Machiavellian genius but it was incredibly stupid of him to indulge in all the touchline theatrics when a quiet pre-match briefing to the key players, off camera, was all that was needed.
This bit is amazing but not entirely unexpected.
Have to admit that I thought his celebration had more to with getting himself noticed by bigger clubs - and recognised as the architect of Porto's victory - than any spontaneous joy he might have felt at the time.
It seems like there's a general trend towards him having run out of proper footballing ideas - or never having had that many in the first place - and becoming more and more reliant on underhand tactics, aggressive mind games and all the other nonsense we're currently seeing to compensate.
I just don't see how a manager with the kind of profile he's getting can be seriously considered to replace Ferguson at United, however #winning he is (or currently isn't).
I just don't see how a manager with the kind of profile he's getting can be seriously considered to replace Ferguson at United, however #winning he is (or currently isn't).
Very hard to work out what's going on there but - assuming it's not been faked - you've got wonder why his foot flicks out like that.
You can not be serious.........
He's been scrutinised so much (not claiming he's an angel himself)
But if we're being fair, we should also see that his players respect him, and not just any players, all the trouble makers respect him, and willing to work hard for him.
We will never know what's in the dressing room, but you don't get that from your player if you're a twat inside the dressing room.
Come to think of it, the 5-0 thrashing from Barca, any other manager would have been sacked on the spot and scrutinised. But honestly, touch your heart and admit that most of us were rooting for RM during that time, what are the odds of that?
Notice that with him, we kinda want RM to win (probably coincided with Barca's dominance) but his tactic does work, bringing unity and solidity in the RM outfit.
But if we're being fair, we should also see that his players respect him, and not just any players, all the trouble makers respect him, and willing to work hard for him.
We will never know what's in the dressing room, but you don't get that from your player if you're a twat inside the dressing room.
Come to think of it, the 5-0 thrashing from Barca, any other manager would have been sacked on the spot and scrutinised. But honestly, touch your heart and admit that most of us were rooting for RM during that time, what are the odds of that?
Notice that with him, we kinda want RM to win (probably coincided with Barca's dominance) but his tactic does work, bringing unity and solidity in the RM outfit.
I'm the last person to defend JM's behaviour but, to be fair, he might have been trying to kick the ball but the player took it away just before.
Yeah, I think that's the most likely explanation.
Fecking bizarre all the same. A football team have just won a free-kick and the opposition manager struts onto the pitch and tries to kick the ball away.
Unbelievable that he seems to be getting away with all that shit and Fergie got the book thrown at him for praising a referee!
Football its a funny old world, the FA are some of the biggest muppets in the game mind
Actually, here's another view of the incident. First few seconds of this clip.
He's nowhere near the ball. Looks as though the malicious cnut might actually have actually been trying to kick Fabregas in the head. Amazing.
He's nowhere near the ball. Looks as though the malicious cnut might actually have actually been trying to kick Fabregas in the head. Amazing.
Bloody hell...thought it was Sid Waddell commentating. 
The commentary is so painful to listen to
You can tell by the way his leg moves he never actually tried to kick him. I mean, I know he was never a professional footballer but surely if he wanted to kick him in the head he would have.
Why does he walk towards him and flick his foot out?
When you combine the two clips it looks as though the most likely reason he missed was because the fat bloke grabbed him and pulled him back at the exact moment he kicked out.
Perhaps he was just trying to 'graze' Cesc's head so he could claim it was an accident if challenged about his action.
Looks like he's just trying to get in front of the onrushing people to me.
God, that was a disgusting foul by Marcelo.
Another view:
Hmmm... Hard to work out what order the last two events happened in but it does look as though Mourinho took a kick at Fabregas, was spotted by the Barca number two, who gave him a slap as a result of which he got his eye gouged a minute or two later. Makes a bit more sense now. Was very odd that Mourinho might randomly walk up and stick his thumb in his eye for no reason whatsover.
Wouldn't be surprised if the order's been deliberately changed by a Barca fan, to make it look as though the eye gouge was unprovoked and the slap took place afterwards.
All ridiculously childish. Sort of thing you'd see in a kindergarten.
Wouldn't be surprised if the order's been deliberately changed by a Barca fan, to make it look as though the eye gouge was unprovoked and the slap took place afterwards.
All ridiculously childish. Sort of thing you'd see in a kindergarten.
...and there's this video, courtesy of a Caf member named Zoo:
It's actually quite sickening to see how many of the world's best players play for those two clubs.
They are easily #1 and #2 favourites for the CL imo...
They are easily #1 and #2 favourites for the CL imo...
Just been PM'd by a newbie who saw all three events on a live feed. The order was "kick", then gouge, then slap.
So I was giving Mourinho an excuse he didn't deserve, believe it or not.
So I was giving Mourinho an excuse he didn't deserve, believe it or not.
Someone on here said it was the best moment of the match.
Just watching Sunday Supplement on Sky Sports.
Both Mourinho and Moyes have been mentioned in context as taking over from Sir Alex when he decides to call it a day.
While it was suggested Moyes ,along with his excellent history of youth development, has the class and ability to take over, it was stated and agreed by all, that Manchester United wouldn’t touch Mourinho with a barge pole (especially after last weeks exploits) and he would be a complete disaster at United with his “me me, now now attitude (Seeing himself above the club) and as a result would see our youth development wasted in preference to a quick fix.
Both Mourinho and Moyes have been mentioned in context as taking over from Sir Alex when he decides to call it a day.
While it was suggested Moyes ,along with his excellent history of youth development, has the class and ability to take over, it was stated and agreed by all, that Manchester United wouldn’t touch Mourinho with a barge pole (especially after last weeks exploits) and he would be a complete disaster at United with his “me me, now now attitude (Seeing himself above the club) and as a result would see our youth development wasted in preference to a quick fix.
I would never have objected to David Moyes in the first place. As of rignt now I would take him over Jose
I think it'll be 3-4 years before the Great Man thinks of retiring. Maybe, we'll see a new candidate who has been undiscussed so far might emerge.
Btw how does everyone think of Wenger or Guardiola as Fergie's successor. IIRC I read somewhere that Wenger was heavily considered by our board when Fergie was thinking of retiring before. Although his age will mean that he won't be a long term fix.
However, Guardiola is young and has been massively successful so far. I think some also under-rate his achievements for Barcelona so far by stating that he has a great team, it could be argued that the likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi reached their world class status after the arrival of Guardiola. He has also instilled a work-ethic in the team that was lacking in them when Rijkaard was their manager.
Then there is Jurgen Klopp who is still young and has done a great job at Borussia Dortmund.
Btw how does everyone think of Wenger or Guardiola as Fergie's successor. IIRC I read somewhere that Wenger was heavily considered by our board when Fergie was thinking of retiring before. Although his age will mean that he won't be a long term fix.
However, Guardiola is young and has been massively successful so far. I think some also under-rate his achievements for Barcelona so far by stating that he has a great team, it could be argued that the likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi reached their world class status after the arrival of Guardiola. He has also instilled a work-ethic in the team that was lacking in them when Rijkaard was their manager.
Then there is Jurgen Klopp who is still young and has done a great job at Borussia Dortmund.
Thinking more and more about the youth development of each managerial candidate, it has to play a pretty high priority for any future United manager. The board will be thinking the same no doubt as it saves them a hell of a lot of money when you develop your own players. I reckon the liklihood of Mourinho is reducing season by season.
Guardiola would be my 1st choice without a shadow of doubt
Pep would be interesting for sure.
I still would really like Laurent Blanc though. Doing a good job with France. They should comfortably top their qualifying.
I still would really like Laurent Blanc though. Doing a good job with France. They should comfortably top their qualifying.