Yeah all this NFL talk is a bit silly now, it doesn’t need to be discussed this much in this thread surely.
New Stadium or Revamp Old Trafford | Aim is to build 100k seater stadium
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Lads can you all feck off with this talk of NFL, American cities and time zones? Most of us are coming here for any progress talk regarding a new stadium or refurbishing Old Trafford. Stop boring everyone else with those lengthy posts about things that are not relevant at this time
I feel like the cost of dismantling the bricks in such a way they would be fit for selling, would be higher than the amount you’d earn in sales.
You just pay some people to go through the rubble with sledge hammers and sell the full bricks at a higher price down to tiny chunks that are super cheap.
The original tunnel should be carefully dismantled, though.
Or, you could leave the original tunnel and dugout as a monument, if there's room, that people can take pictures around. You screw some picture boards into it and create a true monument to every player that ever ran down it.
Do the original dugouts exist anymore?
I'm not sure, they've been trying to figure that out for years. They said in 2019 that we're ready for a full time team, I think they just trying to figure out how it would work, it may never happen but Spurs will host it..
Khan was trying to buy Wembley years back as he was thinking of bringing the jags over full time.
No, I think the current ones are from the 90s.
So the American fans of the other team would just have to watch the game at 8-12am their time?
Not at all. Depends what time the game is on. If you put game on at 20.00 then it is going to be afternoon time
Still on about the NFL? Make an NFL thread.
I see the RFL have signed a Grand Final agreement with OT until at least October 2027. Doesn’t change much of course, just confirms that no replacement/deconstructing of the current ground work will be commencing before 2028 at the earliest.
I'm always reluctant to voice an opinion on the future of Old Trafford as it affects Mancunians and regular match goers more than me. But here it comes anyway!
Having thought about it, our team on the pitch is not in great shape and not in a position to challenge for major honours for the foreseeable future. We have a manager with more question marks than Magnus Magnusson, that half the fans want sacked and seems to be permanently one bad defeat away from the chop. And we have a medical team that can't put a bandage on a cnut's head.
The only thing we can guarantee if we have the will to do it, is to have the biggest, best, state of the art, f**k off football stadium in the world. 100,000+ fans every week. If we can't be number 1 at anything else, at least be number 1 in that and who knows, maybe the rest will follow. Top players will want to play here again. We have muscle, we need to start f**king using it!
Having thought about it, our team on the pitch is not in great shape and not in a position to challenge for major honours for the foreseeable future. We have a manager with more question marks than Magnus Magnusson, that half the fans want sacked and seems to be permanently one bad defeat away from the chop. And we have a medical team that can't put a bandage on a cnut's head.
The only thing we can guarantee if we have the will to do it, is to have the biggest, best, state of the art, f**k off football stadium in the world. 100,000+ fans every week. If we can't be number 1 at anything else, at least be number 1 in that and who knows, maybe the rest will follow. Top players will want to play here again. We have muscle, we need to start f**king using it!
Imagine 100k people coming to see a mid-table team
60k still watched us after getting relegated.
Long time ago when prices were much cheaper
That said if any mid table team can attract 100k it’s United
Hopefully the prospect of playing in front of 100k fans every week would help attract the best players and we wouldn't be mid table anymore!
You are naive, because not every new stadium looks the same. Arguably now more than ever you've got the technology and building skill to build something really creative and suited to what we need.
OT as it is is a mish mash on the outside of 90's and 00's style that has dated anyway. Then you've got the absolute state of the Sir Bobby stand exterior from the 60's. That's without going into the mess that are the quadrants interior wise.
How many support staff can you keep if you just get rid of Antony?
the original tunnel in the south stand is literally the only original part of the stadium. The rest has been built around it.
All of them? And I’m being serious
You could argue that now is the best time to do it. We aren't really challenging for the top honours so we can take the time and patience to build around the younger players and the exciting youth team crop. By the time the new stadium is done they may be reaching their peak.
Compare this with Arsenal where the stadium ended their competitiveness.
Yep I know, it was a rhetorical and sarcastic question TBH, a lot of people seem to think there's a lot of the original still around, bit like Trigger's broom
We need some kind of clarification as to where the money is coming from for this new £2bn stadium, I very much doubt the club can afford it
I reckon it’ll be an INEOS loan
Im not sure putting more debt on an already debt ridden club is a good idea
Naming rights likely nets us £350m. An additional investment from Ineos might for more shares could cover another £200-300m.
A long term loan for the rest is likely covered by increased match day revenues.
Why do you need to know, how anything is funded is a matter for the people in charge and has noting to do with anyone else
Presumably our transfer budget will be seriously hampered for a few years while the new stadium is built too
(Remember Spurs had one summer where they bought nobody?)
So we could even be lower than that
Worse, probably for £150 a ticket.
I am excited about the stadium. But thinking that this will take up to 6 years to build does dampen the excitement somewhat. Can we start building soon?
Because I want to know that the future of the club isnt being threatened by more debt being piled on to its books when we cant even afford to pay off the massive debt we already have.
Not all debt is bad debt
I'd say work would start late next year and could then take around 3 years so your looking 2028?! Would we move into the stadium mid season?
Is that you Malcolm?
If the freight terminal needs to be moved first with the government paying for that. Before contruction begins then I wouldn't expect it to be starting any time soon.
The more important question is how are we going to fund it. We seem to making losses and a new stadium will put even more strain on our finances. Will we be ready to not buy any new players for the duration that we need to pay off for the new stadium.
The club will be loaded with a terrifying amount of debt.
Anyone that thinks Jim or the Glazers are personally paying for it are living in cloud cuckoo land.
So can we continue to play at Old Trafford while we build a new stadium, like Spurs did? If not what do we do.
Any news on how United fund this new stadium?
Everton had to put there stadium interest payments as part of their profit and loss calculations, so it will likely cost us in the transfer market while it’s being built
Everton had to put there stadium interest payments as part of their profit and loss calculations, so it will likely cost us in the transfer market while it’s being built
Didn't Spurs move to Wembley for almost two seasons while their stadium was been built, but they were building along much of the same footprint as White Hart Lane.
Hopefully we can stay at Old Trafford while the new stadium is been built adjacent to it.
That's right, forgot about that. feck hope we don't have to play away from OT. Where could that even be?