"Neuer is the best goalkeeper ever" - Jamie Redknapp

Is Neuer the best GK of all time?

  • Yes

    Votes: 23 33.8%

  • No, but in the top 3

    Votes: 18 26.5%

  • No, but in the top 10

    Votes: 27 39.7%
  • Total voters
    68
He's reached 5 consecutive semi finals, surely he's already got the record for the keeper who's conceded the most goals in Champions League/European Cup semi finals?

10/11 - 6 against us
11/12 - 3 against Madrid
12/13 - 0 against Barca
13/14 - 5 against Madrid
14/15 - 5 against Barca

19 goals conceded. Can't be another keeper who's conceded more?
 
Skills said:
He's reached 5 consecutive semi finals, surely he's already got the record for the keeper who's conceded the most goals in Champions League/European Cup semi finals?

10/11 - 6 against us
11/12 - 3 against Madrid
12/13 - 0 against Barca
13/14 - 5 against Madrid
14/15 - 5 against Barca

19 goals conceded. Can't be another keeper who's conceded more?
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Wow!

Poor guy! Especially against us when he had probably the best game of his career and still conceded two (in the first game).

He actually hasn't even been bad in any of these games (bar a goal in his second game against us).
 
Revan said:
Wow!

Poor guy! Especially against us when he had probably the best game of his career and still conceded two (in the first game).

He actually hasn't even been bad in any of these games (bar a goal in his second game against us).
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Yeah it's like finding out the big bad fighter who's been knocking everyone out, actually has a glass chin. What a record.
 
Rossa said:
I always thought of Buffon as a poor man's Schmeichel. Maybe you are younger than me and thus haven't seen Schmeichel at his best, but during the 90s, he was absolutely brilliant. The saves he made made one opposition goalie applaud him from the other side of the pitch (Grobbelar) and one Arsenal player when Schmeichel made a double save that was impossible to save - I recall the pundits saying that it should not be doable what he did.

As for Neuer, he is amazing at sweeping and his style is different, but very effective. He may eclipse Schmeichel from what I've seen, but there are a few who follow the Bundesliga who say that he actually makes quite a few mistakes.

DDG, as brilliant as he is, is not at Neuer's level just yet. He too may become the greatest - he has it in him.
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Never seen Schmeichel play really, The goalkeeper of my generation growing up is Buffon.
 
I wonder if Louise Redknapp stops and ponders what the feck Jamie is on about all the time too.
 
Should have done much better with both goals tonight, slow to get across and down for the first and utterly dreadful for the second.
 
Not sure if he could have done better for the first goal but utterly shite for second. GOAT's don't do that.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
Not sure if he could have done better for the first goal but utterly shite for second. GOAT's don't do that.
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Whoever the GOAT is, I'm sure he's made mistakes like that. All keepers do at one point or another.
 
He was very good tonight. Strange bump.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
Not sure if he could have done better for the first goal but utterly shite for second. GOAT's don't do that.
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Do what?

De Gea did it against Chelsea a few weeks. Van Dar Sar did it in a champions league final.
 
sullydnl said:
Whoever the GOAT is, I'm sure he's made mistakes like that. All keepers do at one point or another.
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Neuer has quite a bit of mistakes in him. Was it against Juve last season in the CL where he was woeful.
 
Weird. The only player with a higher rating than Neuer was Ronaldo on WhoScored. That seems a much more accurate reflection of events than what's being said in here...he was great and is clearly one of the greatest goalkeepers of all-time, with the potential to be #1 in my view.
 
He is still an excellent goalkeeper. Along with Buffon, Schmeichel, Casillas, and Kahn the best goalkeeper of the past 25 years.
 
No chance he's the greatest ever. While he does make some really great saves he also lets in some dodgy goals.
 
Didn't watch the whole game but I've seen the second goal, thought he should have saved that. He tried to collect the ball despite it coming at him at some pace.
 
Skills said:
He's reached 5 consecutive semi finals, surely he's already got the record for the keeper who's conceded the most goals in Champions League/European Cup semi finals?

10/11 - 6 against us
11/12 - 3 against Madrid
12/13 - 0 against Barca
13/14 - 5 against Madrid
14/15 - 5 against Barca

19 goals conceded. Can't be another keeper who's conceded more?
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Surely got it by now

10/11 - 6 against us
11/12 - 3 against Madrid
12/13 - 0 against Barca
13/14 - 5 against Madrid
14/15 - 5 against Barca
15/16 - 2 against Atletico

21 goals conceded in Champions League semis
 
RooneyLegend said:
No chance he's the greatest ever. While he does make some really great saves he also lets in some dodgy goals.
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That's my gripe with him. On his day he's absolutely superb. Against us in the CL semi, he was un-unfecking-believable but I've also seen games where he was quite bad.
 
Neuer was good in this game. Most of the saves were straight at him. The 2nd goal he let it was also straight at him but the header he saved from Benzema in the first half was excellent.

Those two saves are the one that stand out, rest should have been routine and was.
 
He saved a lot of shots today, but some of them were straight at him. The Ronaldo save was world class though, what a reflex that was from a short distance and quite powerful shot. He could have done better for the second goal, but it was still a very good game from him and Bayerns best player with Vidal tonight (except the penalty miss)
 
sullydnl said:
Whoever the GOAT is, I'm sure he's made mistakes like that. All keepers do at one point or another.
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Aye. Whoever your GOAT is - Yashin, Zoff, Schmeichel, Buffon, Kahn, Neuer, etc - they've all made mistakes in big games.
 
Fwiw, I think Dave is better than him in most aspects, apart from, perhaps commanding the penalty area.
 
Gio said:
Aye. Whoever your GOAT is - Yashin, Zoff, Schmeichel, Buffon, Kahn, Neuer, etc - they've all made mistakes in big games.
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Yashin apparently conceded 3 howlers on his debut for Dynamo Moscow. Didn't play again for a while but from some clips I've seen of him he was an absolutely outrageous shot stopper.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
Fwiw, I think Dave is better than him in most aspects, apart from, perhaps commanding the penalty area.
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Which is a very important area. De Gea is nowhere near as assertive as him which is something if we believe the rumours, Mourinho is critical of as well. His distribution and ability to play out is also superior to our Dave. A better comparison is Buffon who I think is more or less equal to Neuer.
 
What a weird bump. Without him Real would have scored 3 or 4 more goals, and I really don't think all of those saves he made today were easy ones. He was our best player today, ffs.
 
Theonas said:
Which is a very important area. De Gea is nowhere near as assertive as him which is something if we believe the rumours, Mourinho is critical of as well. His distribution and ability to play out is also superior to our Dave. A better comparison is Buffon who I think is more or less equal to Neuer.
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Aye he's came on leaps and bounds though. To the point where I'm never worried where he's coming for corners, crosses or generally asserting himself around the six yard area. He'll never be Schmeichel or Neuer in that respect but he's competent nevertheless.
 
Excellent keeper, but for me Buffon is the best of all time. Still the best in the world today as well.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
Aye he's came on leaps and bounds though. To the point where I'm never worried where he's coming for corners, crosses or generally asserting himself around the six yard area. He'll never be Schmeichel or Neuer in that respect but he's competent nevertheless.
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I agree, he did indeed improve plenty in that area. It was interesting to hear the Spanish players apparently criticising him for that very same reason. He tends to prefer to stay close to his goal as he feels in his comfort zone stopping shots as opposed to coming out and dominating his area. When it comes to shot stopping, he is easily as good as anyone but I don't think he will ever reach the heights of the likes of Neuer precisely because of his relative timidity if we can call it that. I also think his level has been over hyped immensely among us United fans because he was the only blameless individual over the past 3 years. In a time where we could complain about everyone, just the fact that he was playing well elevated him to "best in the world" level in our eyes. Still top 5 overall in the world though, just not a Neuer or Buffon.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
Yashin apparently conceded 3 howlers on his debut for Dynamo Moscow. Didn't play again for a while but from some clips I've seen of him he was an absolutely outrageous shot stopper.
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Yeah, he stands out a lot - his handling, athleticism, command of the area, presence - are all well ahead of his peers from that era. The commentators spoke of him then with a real awe. Even then he conceded direct from a corner in one World Cup game IIRC, then in 1966 had a brilliant game against West Germany then seemed to think a Beckenbauer shot was going wide before it nestled in the top corner.
 
Theonas said:
I agree, he did indeed improve plenty in that area. It was interesting to hear the Spanish players apparently criticising him for that very same reason. He tends to prefer to stay close to his goal as he feels in his comfort zone stopping shots as opposed to coming out and dominating his area. When it comes to shot stopping, he is easily as good as anyone but I don't think he will ever reach the heights of the likes of Neuer precisely because of his relative timidity if we can call it that. I also think his level has been over hyped immensely among us United fans because he was the only blameless individual over the past 3 years. In a time where we could complain about everyone, just the fact that he was playing well elevated him to "best in the world" level in our eyes. Still top 5 overall in the world though, just not a Neuer or Buffon.
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I don't know for me he is the best goalkeeper in the world. But I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that. Over the past few seasons some of the saves he has made were nothing short of extraordinary. Over past 3 years I'd say he has been directly involved in getting us higher up the table. That's how good he is. Of course he is slightly overhyped by United fans and that's normal, but he's still definitely World Class. That's clear to see.
 
Wasn't Renat Dasaev one of the greatest goalkeepers as well? Never really hear him mentioned.
 
I still remember him coming to play to Porto for Schalke in the CL and the next day everything people were talking about was about his performance. Everytime he made a save the camera panned out to the stands on fans holding their head :lol:

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He's the best I've seen along with Buffon.
 
MaxiPaxi said:
I don't know for me he is the best goalkeeper in the world. But I guess we will have to agree to disagree on that. Over the past few seasons some of the saves he has made were nothing short of extraordinary. Over past 3 years I'd say he has been directly involved in getting us higher up the table. That's how good he is. Of course he is slightly overhyped by United fans and that's normal, but he's still definitely World Class. That's clear to see.
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Clearly world class. I said he is top 5 in the world for me which is clearly world class. I think Neuer and Buffon are number one followed by De Gea, Lloris and Oblak who I believe there is nothing between them. It's true that he did make extraordinary saves which is why he is one of the best but his overall game (assertion and dominance of his area) makes him short of being better than a top 5 for me. As I said, I do think the frustration of the past 3 years, justifiable as it was, has led to a disproportionate amount of credit going his way as he was the only left in the squad that could not be criticized, that everything he was involved in was largely positive. The fact however is that we weren't conceding that many chances under LvG or Mourinho, he was called into action an average of once a game if any. So yes, he was directly involved in winning us points but again that's not saying much considering how impotent our creative players have been.
 
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