Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed

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Jesus Christ people, just ignore him.
I laugh every time I come into a thread and see people "talking" to themselves and arguing with what I assume is GS. Glad I blocked him. Really would like to know what he offers on this forum other than 1st class WUMming.
 
Eh these never ending discussions about age :D I am actually happy we are signing an experienced player in a very important position. He is 29 not 39 FFS and not all players are finished at 30 like Rooney, Matic could be our starting DM for more than 5 years if it goes well for him. We had quite a few young signings in recent years such as Schneiderlin who I think was 24 when we bought him, he was supposed to be our DM for the next 10 years, Shaw was guaranteed starting XI for the next 15 years, Depay was compared to Ronaldo etc. What we have now? LB, LW and DM are the positions we desperately need to improve...
 
Stop talking out of your arse. You made a negative (outrageously pedantic) observation about Matic and his age. Four or five posters responded giving you the time of day (feck knows why) and you have ignored them all, aside from one. These replies were all quite fair, too. Obviously you countered the one you found easiest to counter.

@Kostur responds to @Rado_N referencing Spurs, then you immediately jump on that and pedal some kind of narrative whereby United posters are attacking you and your beloved Spurs.

You see what you want to see and hang around these threads stinking them out. The day you're banned for good will be a great day for debate on here. You're a colossal waste of space and energy.

Several United fans have expressed concern about Matic's age. Are they too being 'outrageously pedantic'? In my view it's a reasonable point for discussion.

You accuse me of ignoring posts, then accuse me of stinking up the thread. Doubtless if I reply to every single post - as you apparently want - you'd then say I was stinking up the thread even more. It seems to be a case of heads you win, tails I lose
 
Very good signing, feel like he'll be a handy addition and someone suited to a Mourinho side.
 
It was a United fan that brought Spurs into the discussion. This is usually the case: I make an observation - in this case about Matic's age (nothing to do with Spurs) - and then receive one or more replies referencing Spurs.

Unless someone quotes you in some way, be it your name or posts, how could you possibly know we're discussing Spurs? I guess it would be safe to assume that you read every thread, and the accompanying replies, in order to find some form of Spurs related material, derogatory or otherwise. I simply cannot fathom the idea of dissecting a Spurs forum in search of United related content.

Each to their own and all that ;)
 
Several United fans have expressed concern about Matic's age. Are they too being 'outrageously pedantic'? In my view it's a reasonable point for discussion.

You accuse me of ignoring posts, then accuse me of stinking up the thread. Doubtless if I reply to every single post - as you apparently want - you'd then say I was stinking up the thread even more. It seems to be a case of heads you win, tails I lose

Yes they are.
 
This is a very canny signing from the club. More than Dier would be IMO. Ignore the fee and just appreciate the advantages this brings. An experienced player with a terrific reading of the game and technical skill to match. He won't need a bedding in period, he's worked with Jose before, knows his methods and what he wants from him. He also has a point to prove after his stellar season in 14/15 and subsequent stalling (surpassing and overshadowing by Kante), plus he will support Pogba's greater influence in the final third.

Such a nice balance of midfielders if all of Matic, Herrera and Pogba start.
 
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Unless someone quotes you in some way, be it your name or posts, how could you possibly know we're discussing Spurs? ...

Maybe because the post I cited appeared in this thread just 2 or 3 posts below mine and I'm reading this thread?
 
The issue is that he's 29.
28 according to my sources - unless he's going down the route of my nan and telling people he's "29 next birthday".

Obviously if he is actually 29 then that would change everything - why would we buy a has-been??
 
Several United fans have expressed concern about Matic's age. Are they too being 'outrageously pedantic'? In my view it's a reasonable point for discussion.

You accuse me of ignoring posts, then accuse me of stinking up the thread. Doubtless if I reply to every single post - as you apparently want - you'd then say I was stinking up the thread even more. It seems to be a case of heads you win, tails I lose

The post in question argued that 28/29 was a prime age for a footballer. It didn't really merit such a pedantic response. It's about right. The age discussion is a reasonable one, but there are good arguments to the contrary that you went out of your way to conveniently ignore.

Which is your problem. You have no interest in debate. All you're interested in doing is picking up on posts you don't like, using them to wind people up, and searching for anything Spurs-related to pursue your silly victim-playing agenda. It's relentless, really. Your entire approach to this forum is pathetic and a complete waste of your own time.

That's the last I will say on this, as I can't be arsed to waste any more of my time on you.
 
28 according to my sources - unless he's going down the route of my nan and telling people he's "29 next birthday".

Obviously if he is actually 29 then that would change everything - why would we buy a has-been??
Well, I lied, a little harmless lie. He'll turn 29 tomorrow. Technically, he's still 28.
 
Yes they are.

Well, it's a point of view I guess. But what I see is that a gang of cyber-bully boys often descend on the heads of any United fan who dares to express an opinion that's contrary to the pre-determined views of the "Mourinho loyalists".
 
28 according to my sources - unless he's going down the route of my nan and telling people he's "29 next birthday".

Obviously if he is actually 29 then that would change everything - why would we buy a has-been??

29 tomorrow - I don't think it's a problem but I do believe we should already be scouring Europe for his replacement (which is a little disconcerting seeing as he hasn't even signed yet!). 2/3 good years before we should start slowly introducing a younger replacement
 
28 according to my sources - unless he's going down the route of my nan and telling people he's "29 next birthday".

Obviously if he is actually 29 then that would change everything - why would we buy a has-been??
It's his birthday tomorrow. Don't think one day sends you spiraling over the hill or we are all in trouble.
 
Lloris, Vertongen, Alderweireld and Dembele are all around the same age as Matic. Must be very very concerning to have to be in the market for 4 vital players in just 2 years time.

Indeed.

This was a big part of why Spurs were runners-up the last two seasons.

Experience counts for a lot.
 
29 tomorrow - I don't think it's a problem but I do believe we should already be scouring Europe for his replacement (which is a little disconcerting seeing as he hasn't even signed yet!). 2/3 good years before we should start slowly introducing a younger replacement
Yeah, I agree, we should always be doing that though
 
Declaring 29 to be "peak" age is debateable. But the more important point is that it's not building for the long-term, since you'll be likely be back again looking for a replacement DM in a couple of years.
Do you consider Pogba, Bailly, Lindeløf short term?
 
Throwing my hat into the Matic chant ring with a variation of 'Automatic' by the Pointer Sisters.

"No way to control him
He's totally auto-matic
Whenever you're around
(Auto-matic)"

It would certainly be catchy.
 
You think the club works on transfers one by one?
on their past record yes.. but this was meant as a joke! especially as I don't see a world-class winger out there who is available
 
Do you consider Pogba, Bailly, Lindeløf short term?
Or Shaw, Martial, etc. Schneiderlin and Herrera were both about 23/24 when we bought them too, same with Darmian actually. Depay was only 21 or so, our strategy so far has been very geared towards players who can offer us years of service.
 
The post in question argued that 28/29 was a prime age for a footballer. It didn't really merit such a pedantic response. It's about right. The age discussion is a reasonable one, but there are good arguments to the contrary that you went out of your way to conveniently ignore.

Which is your problem. You have no interest in debate. All you're interested in doing is picking up on posts you don't like, using them to wind people up, and searching for anything Spurs-related to pursue your silly victim-playing agenda. It's relentless, really. Your entire approach to this forum is pathetic and a complete waste of your own time.

That's the last I will say on this, as I can't be arsed to waste any more of my time on you.

what would you expect for someone who has nothing to celebrate or feel good about regarding football? Offcourse he is going to try and win petty battles on a forum when his club has won NOTHING since we discovered the earth was not flat.
 
Declaring 29 to be "peak" age is debateable. But the more important point is that it's not building for the long-term, since you'll be likely be back again looking for a replacement DM in a couple of years.

Of course 29 is peak age. It is most certainly peak age for a CDM.

And we'll have to buy a new DM in 'a couple of years' - are you for real? So, Matic will burn out by age 31, will he? DMs normally enter their best years in their early 30s. Remember that dud Carrick you sold us 10- years ago Died age 31, tragic.

And, seeing as we have by far the greatest youth academy in Britain, perhaps we won't have to buy a new DM when Matic retires in about seven years time. Perhaps Fosu Mensa is the ideal player to step up? Anyway, why are you worrying your little soul over what United might have to do in seven years' time? You should be more concerned that you can't buy anyone, let alone a 29-year-old who has mass Premier League title winning experience.
 
If you say Spurs 3 times in the mirror Glaston will appear to lecture you on economics.
Funny that that will feel exactly like someone inserting a hook up your anus, rummaging around, then pulling it out suddenly.
 
It was a United fan that brought Spurs into the discussion. This is usually the case: I make an observation - in this case about Matic's age (nothing to do with Spurs) - and then receive one or more replies referencing Spurs.
Nah, you're fishing mate. You know very well what button to push to turn a discussion onto Spurs. Talk down Utd and highlight how great your club is. It's what you do.
 
If we buy Matic today, can't believe he will age a year in a day. 29!! Definitely should have bought a player with unlimited potential, who has no experience of winning the PL.
 
Two years is a long time in football. Two years ago, we signed Schneiderlin who people thought could be our DM for the next 5-7 years, PL proven and moving at the right age. Look how that turned out.

United is at a stage where we simply can't afford to be stagnant for 2-3 more seasons. We need success and we need it now. Matic knows Mourinho's tactics, has won the PL twice, plays in a position where we're desperately short, and is the closest thing to Carrick in the PL today. He'll come in to the team and perform at a consistent, high level from Day 1. It's the equivalent of the Van Persie signing in CM.

It's as close to a perfect signing as you can go, and I'm really excited. Our window so far has been absolutely spot on.


100%. This is the best signing we've made this summer. Frees up Pogba, makes our midfield super strong in numbers and in personnel and I genuinely feel we are favourites now to win the league. We now have the squad that can handle lower quality teams (which we didn't have last year) and the top teams in the Prem. Nobody looks better than us heading into this campaign...
 
I for one am glad about this signing even though he is 29 and cost us 40 mil.

We need his experience to cover our defense with young players like Bailey, Lindelof and Shaw. He also reads the game well and will free up Pogba, Herrera, Mhki, Mata to attack. He will be very important for us.

With Dier being quoted for 70 mil and clearly an inferior player, I believe that Matic was always our first choice.
 
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Declaring 29 to be "peak" age is debateable. But the more important point is that it's not building for the long-term, since you'll be likely be back again looking for a replacement DM in a couple of years.

You might be right. But you might also not be seeing the bigger picture. We might have a signing lined up for a couple of years time, or even a good player in our academy/ reserves whom we'd expect to slot in by then. In which case, buying a 29 year old player is exactly the right thing to do, as opposed to buying a younger player now. It's simple succession planning.

On the contrary, I came to the view that Spurs would not sell Dier and I'm happy that's proved to be the case. It's pretty clear that United tried for Dier, and then went for Matic as 2nd choice.

I genuinely don't know how you came to this conclusion? We were linked to Matic in previous windows, whereas the Dier link only came out this summer. So surely Matic was a 1st choice (or at least the choice we had in mind before Dier) and Dier was a new consideration which only came about this summer?

It seems to me that we are targeting multiple targets for each position. So we considered Lukaku vs Morata, and Lindelof vs Keane, then Matic vs Dier, and we sign one of them, based on a number of factors I guess, not least how actually available they are and negotiable the selling clubs are. How you'd come into information about who the preference was for each of these positions I've no idea about! I guess that's a guessing game.
 
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