It seems every NBA record belongs to Wilt Chamberlain. Was this guy even real? Madness!
NBA 2018-2019
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I was shocked when I saw he only won 2 championships.
MVPG13 
He played at the beginning of NBA when the sport was not as popular and not played as widely. It was basically a completely different sport.
Paul George really is amazing. Russ should defer to him even more I think but I think he’s already made the right choice in allowing him to have way more shots.
If Russ improves his efficiency to a respectable level they could be a threat to Golden State. OKC are the only West team that could steal a game from Warriors IMO and could even make the series slightly tight under the right circumstances.
If Russ improves his efficiency to a respectable level they could be a threat to Golden State. OKC are the only West team that could steal a game from Warriors IMO and could even make the series slightly tight under the right circumstances.
Giannis is the MVP, ticks all the boxes. Only other player people should really consider voting for is Paul George who has been ridiculous on both ends for OKC.
I agree but almost certainly Harden will win the award. Bookies don't even see it as a race anymore.
Why doesn't Harden deserve it though?
As a Houston fan I am sure you think PG or Giannis should win, right? After all, Harden's team isn't in the top 3 of their conference. He's just putting up stats on an insane usage, with an (arbitrary) streak of consecutive 30 point games. All Rockets fans told me seasons ago that wins > stats.
Not at all, I think Harden should win, I mean it's kind of ironic you said stats on high usage as an OKC fan, remember Westbrook?
Harden would deserve it yeah but my personal preference will always go to Georges. I dislike Harden so much
I get that, and as a Rockets fan Harden would be my first choice, but PG13 would be my 2nd.
That was my point. So you (at the time) thought Westbrook should have won MVP in 2016-17 season?
Nope, but then again your whole argument is about stats, without Harden Rockets would've been 15th in the west atm, he's scoring, defending, he has just been incredible this year.
Right. I agree with you. But that is the same as Westbrook in 2016-17.
I don't see how Houston fans can think Harden should win MVP this year, while also not thinking Westbrook should have won in 2016-17. Seems to be hypocritical that they were all saying Harden should win because his team had more wins than OKC. Better team + similar stats = MVP. But this season they are saying that just because Giannis and PG's teams have more wins and similar stats they shouldn't win.
You lot really don't give Harden the respect he deserves. Nobody is arguing he is perfect but the "he shouldn't be considered" comments are pure ignorance. Watch a game, he's fecking amazing.
Right, I'm not saying Giannis or PG13 shouldn't win, I'm saying there's a case for all of them and in my eyes Harden should be MVP.
Exactly! Before watching clips of him flopping, watch a full game and see how good he actually is.
Okay then, that's fair. I thought you were saying it was clear-cut.
Unless Harden drops off or the others go on an insane streak I think he'll rightfully win it.
Tbf since I watch all Rockets games I kind of appreciate Harden more, just like you with PG13 and Bucks fans with Giannis, since each one of them is doing amazing things for their teams the fans of course will see their player as the best candidate.
Team record. I'm never in favor of players on non-top 5 teams winning it. Then again the league is screwed anyway in distribution of strength so maybe it's not that important.
Though I wouldn't say he will be underserved either. I would just prefer Giannis or George getting the nod for the job they've done.
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i'd have Harden and Giannis over PG. Rockets and Bucks would be way lower in the standings without those two, whereas the Thunder would still be decent without PG due to Westbrook (he's just broken the record of most triple doubles in a row fgs). i think Harden gets it.
Did anyone say he should not be considered?
OKC would not be in the playoffs without George. Westbrook has been incredibly inefficient this year and has defered to George a lot, which has actually worked out great for them.
It's kind of telling that Westbrook went 5-21 in the game where he broke the triple double record, and it's not really that much below his average this season. 41.5% FG%, 24.6% from three, 64.6% on free throws. Yet I'd still say he's been having a decent season despite it!
Well, yes. You even agreed with that comment.
I missed the "only" part in that post to be honest. You have to be considered if you've carried your team for the entire year and broke all the records he has broken. He has a 36.6 ppg average FFS
He will probably end up over 37 which I think has been done by maybe 3 or 4 other players and Wilt should not really count.I'll really not be that disappointed in either of the 3 winning it and to be honest the only reason why I'd prefer George and Giannis is team record which I can also see the point of not being the main factor as long as the team makes the playoffs.
I'm not a Harden hater by any means, I've defended him a lot in this thread when @charlton66 tried to paint him as a villain!
I'm not a Harden hater by any means, I've defended him a lot in this thread when @charlton66 tried to paint him as a villain!
i'm not saying PG hasn't been great, or shouldn't be in contention, but Westbrook is way better than anyone else not Harden or Giannis on their respective teams. and if it comes down to a close race, i think that counts, when we're talking about how valuable a player is to their team.
Thunder without PG may not make the playoffs. but i'd hate to think how bad the Rockets would be without Harden, sheesh.
Yeah I kind of agree with that. Bucks and Rockets would not be in the playoffs without Giannis and Harden either.
OKC actually have good supporting cast beyond PG and Westbrook as well. Those players just seem to fit together and they play hard. I love Adams and I adore Grant. I hope they can have some good playoffs series, theirs against Warriors in 2015-16 season was beautiful.
Harden has a virtually identical efg% to George. Before people start calling him a chucker.
Nobody called him that. He's been efficient.
I don't agree with this. They would struggle so much to close many games without Georges.
If he gets it he will deserve it without, what he's accomplish is fecking ridiculous. I can't warm to this flopping though, that's beyond my tolerance
There is something seriously fecked up with the NBA refs this season. How can you not call that as a travel ? Either they've been told to be extra lenient or they're just plain incompetent
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MVP
1) Freak
2) Harden
3) George
Hon. mentions:
- LBJ
- Joker
- Durant
- Embiid
- Curry
- Leonard
1) Freak
2) Harden
3) George
Hon. mentions:
- LBJ
- Joker
- Durant
- Embiid
- Curry
- Leonard
Villain, villain, cheating bastard, villain!
Looking at their starting five I reckon Sixers could actually give Warriors some challenge in the finals if they play at their absolute best. Obviously Simmons complete lack of shooting will be a big problem but his defense will also help a lot against Curry and Klay.
They have three elite defenders (Simmons, Embiid, Butler), two excellent spot up shooters and scorers (Harris, Redick) and can really play many different formations. I’m not convinced about Brett Brown’s ability to coach in clutch moments but personnel wise they’ve built a great team there.
They have three elite defenders (Simmons, Embiid, Butler), two excellent spot up shooters and scorers (Harris, Redick) and can really play many different formations. I’m not convinced about Brett Brown’s ability to coach in clutch moments but personnel wise they’ve built a great team there.
#hinkiewouldhavewon
PG13 is playing out his mind but I think it is a close race for MVP because Harden has been unbelievable this year. You could really make a fair case for all three contenders for MVP.
zion is thicc
Whats happening to the Lakers?