NBA 2018-2019


Whoa. Celtics could fall apart easily, it all looked so great just minutes ago with Kyrie (could leave for New York), all those future looking assets looking so tasty (that Kings pick won’t even be top 10), Tatum looking like a star (has had a bit of an off year), Hayward coming back (looking like a shadow of himself) and AD destined to go there. Now if Kyrie does not resign there they are absolutely fecked with a roster that is maybe good for 45 wins but will not get anywhere near Finals.
 
Who knows? If he feels that he’s healthy he’s going to get that money in 2020 AND choose who he plays for. It’s not like he’s Nerlens Noel who has little basketball skills.

They should have still called his bluff. Heck if he took the qualifying offer some cap space would have opened up for the Knicks anyway.
 
I thought the same until he started playing NCAA basketball. I would still prefer Barrett but, Zion has exceeded expectation so far.

He has exceeded expectation for sure. I do think he can be a solid 2 way contributor but I do think that his shot will limit his upside. I don't see him at Paul George's level for example. If he were to be an all-star I think he could be a more athletic Draymond perhaps.
 
Whoa. Celtics could fall apart easily, it all looked so great just minutes ago with Kyrie (could leave for New York), all those future looking assets looking so tasty (that Kings pick won’t even be top 10), Tatum looking like a star (has had a bit of an off year), Hayward coming back (looking like a shadow of himself) and AD destined to go there. Now if Kyrie does not resign there they are absolutely fecked with a roster that is maybe good for 45 wins but will not get anywhere near Finals.

I don't know. They looked fine without kyrie and Hayward last year no?

They would arguably be better without kyrie. To me rightly or wrongly it feels like he and his future has just been such a distraction and has taken away from their team ethos. This may be a lazy narrative on my part though. I don't follow them closely.
 
Don't tell me after Sporting you support the Knicks?
I really suck at choosing teams right? I always go for the team in my home city and in the states NY Knicks is that team.
 
Jordan? Not renouncing him makes it impossible for them to sign second max player. I actually think they won’t even be able to bring one max free agent with his cap hold.

Maybe they will renounce him and sign him back on a minimum deal but his skill set just doesn’t work at all in this league. That would be an utterly ridiculous move.

They have to get rid of him in the next two weeks and let him to a playoffs team.

Their moves from now have to be signing two max free agents, signing a good mid-level exception player and look for any minimum players that want to sign with them. They will have some half decent young players in Knox, Smith and whoever they draft (they will be able to get one of Zion, Ja, RJ, Reddish or someone like Culver, Porter or Johnson).
Well doesn't Jordans contract expire this summer? I think it does.
 
Incredible stuff by the Nuggets against Houston. 81 points in the first half. Beasley on fire. I’d start him over Murray any time.
 
Yes Matthews could be that final missing piece that drives GS to a championship.
 
Well doesn't Jordans contract expire this summer? I think it does.

Yes but if you renounce him and offer max deals to Kyrie and KD then the most you can offer him is mid level exception. Maybe this will actually be enough for Jordan. I definitely would not have him on a team though if I were trying to compete.
 
I don't know. They looked fine without kyrie and Hayward last year no?

They would arguably be better without kyrie. To me rightly or wrongly it feels like he and his future has just been such a distraction and has taken away from their team ethos. This may be a lazy narrative on my part though. I don't follow them closely.

Yes they looked fine but it was a much weaker conference and they still lost conference finals to basically just LeBron. I don’t think a ceiling of a team led by Tatum, Brown and Rozier is all that high. Of course they will still get a lottery pick this year and then potentially a great Memphis pick down the line but they will not compete for a championship with this core IMO. It’s key that they retain Kyrie and get another big player.

They won’t be better without Kyrie, he’s a top 20 player. Yeah maybe he’s causing some trouble and is probably not the best character but you need alpha type players to win titles I feel.

AD ship had sailed though IMO. If his father is publicly talking about his reluctance then it’s too big of a risk for them to give up big assets ahead of his 2020 free agency.
 
Feels great to finally put the Rockets to the sword. Pretty sure they had won the last 9 against us in convincing fashion.

Beasley has the best game of his career, and the Joker had yet another game where he was a bee's dick away from a triple double. That makes 12 or so for the season.
 
Incredible stuff by the Nuggets against Houston. 81 points in the first half. Beasley on fire. I’d start him over Murray any time.

He has been amazing lately. He can play with Murray though as Murray plays PG and he's a SG, unless you meant Harris (SG) or Morris (PG), who has been just as impressive lately.

Fun fact: he's our number one player this season for scoring 10+ points in the fourth, which was really surprising to hear.
 
Another perfect example tonight as to why James Harden will never win a Championship. Down by 17 with under two minutes to go but he had to keep that meaningless 30 point streak alive.Every season he's always out of gas by playoff time and this was a perfect opportunity to rest him. But no, he had the streak to maintain. It's always all about him. The MVP is way more important than the Chip
 
Who knows? If he feels that he’s healthy he’s going to get that money in 2020 AND choose who he plays for. It’s not like he’s Nerlens Noel who has little basketball skills.

Nerlens has been pretty great this season. Interested to see who offers him a contract in the off-season.

It seems like there is a mutual interest between Wesley Matthews and the Dubs if he is indeed bought out by the Knicks. Looks like he could be the extra, extra, extra 3 and D player the Dubs have been missing for a while.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...es-matthews-golden-state-have-mutual-interest

OKC can offer their tax-payer mid-level still. I assume we'll also be interested.
 
He has been amazing lately. He can play with Murray though as Murray plays PG and he's a SG, unless you meant Harris (SG) or Morris (PG), who has been just as impressive lately.

Fun fact: he's our number one player this season for scoring 10+ points in the fourth, which was really surprising to hear.

You’re right, I meant Harris, sorry. Although I like Harris! It’s weird last night the threes just went in and on some nights nothing is going in, like the game against who was it, Utah?, we were trailing 25 and still turned it around in the last quarter, that was frustrating.

Home advantage does seem to make a massive difference, everyone so fired up.

What’s with skinny Walsh, where is he? I liked that guy!
 
You’re right, I meant Harris, sorry. Although I like Harris! It’s weird last night the threes just went in and on some nights nothing is going in, like the game against who was it, Utah?, we were trailing 25 and still turned it around in the last quarter, that was frustrating.

Home advantage does seem to make a massive difference, everyone so fired up.

What’s with skinny Walsh, where is he? I liked that guy!

I think Harris is one of the best defenders at the SG position, and is a good scorer in his own right. Though Beasley is a natural scorer from what I've seen, whereas Harris has had to work on his game.

I think right now Beasley is in better form and Harris was out again. We need to work Harris back in on some form and thankfully we have the luxury of taking our time with easily Beasley playing so well.
 
Another perfect example tonight as to why James Harden will never win a Championship. Down by 17 with under two minutes to go but he had to keep that meaningless 30 point streak alive.Every season he's always out of gas by playoff time and this was a perfect opportunity to rest him. But no, he had the streak to maintain. It's always all about him. The MVP is way more important than the Chip

He was Chris Paul injury away from getting the Finals and very likely winning it last year. Please stop.
 
You’re right, I meant Harris, sorry. Although I like Harris! It’s weird last night the threes just went in and on some nights nothing is going in, like the game against who was it, Utah?, we were trailing 25 and still turned it around in the last quarter, that was frustrating.

Home advantage does seem to make a massive difference, everyone so fired up.

What’s with skinny Walsh, where is he? I liked that guy!

Utah played a lot more physical and are playing much better defense than the Rockets overall.
 
Another perfect example tonight as to why James Harden will never win a Championship. Down by 17 with under two minutes to go but he had to keep that meaningless 30 point streak alive.Every season he's always out of gas by playoff time and this was a perfect opportunity to rest him. But no, he had the streak to maintain. It's always all about him. The MVP is way more important than the Chip

How much rest can you get in <2 min?
 
He was Chris Paul injury away from getting the Finals and very likely winning it last year. Please stop.
"That series would've been over in 5 if Iggy doesn't get hurt." incoming in 3..2..1...
 
"That series would've been over in 5 if Iggy doesn't get hurt." incoming in 3..2..1...

:lol: indeed.

Last season proved that Harden, when surrounded by enough talent and with a team that suits him, is good enough to play on a contender.
 
He was Chris Paul injury away from getting the Finals and very likely winning it last year. Please stop.
Can we please stop with this like it was a foregone conclusion. Even with Chris Paul there 2 of Houston's 3 wins were by a grand total of 7 points. They also got blown out by 41 with CP on the court. Pretty much every year of his career James Harden has had issues in the playoffs. Some people say it's choking, at least I prefer to say he was out of gas and give him the benefit of the doubt. Last year everything came together for the Rockets - it was their window and they still fecked it up.

"That series would've been over in 5 if Iggy doesn't get hurt." incoming in 3..2..1...
Finally - some sense! ;)
 
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Can we please stop with this like it was a foregone conclusion. Even with Chris Paul there 2 of Houston's 3 wins were by a grand total of 7 points. They also got blown out by 41 with CP on the court. Pretty much every year of his career James Harden has had issues in the playoffs. Some people say it's choking, at least I prefer to say he was out of gas and give him the benefit of the doubt. Last year everything came together for the Rockets - it was their window and they still fecked it up.


Finally - some sense! ;)

It is very unlikely that they were losing both game 6 and 7 with Paul on the floor. To be fair they probably shouldn’t have lost without him either, that game 7 was ridiculously unlucky.

It doesn’t matter that they lost by 41, they made solid adjustments in other games and were proper good WITH Harden.
 
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I will never forget where I was when I was screaming at the TV asking the Rockets to stop shooting fecking 3s

Yeah, it was ridiculous really. They hit even two of those and they would have probably won. It took away all momentum.

Also, if Durant does not take easy way and go to Warriors in 2016 Harden would have a title by now as well. If it was Harden doing the same move he would have a title by now too. :)
 
I think Harris is one of the best defenders at the SG position, and is a good scorer in his own right. Though Beasley is a natural scorer from what I've seen, whereas Harris has had to work on his game.

I think right now Beasley is in better form and Harris was out again. We need to work Harris back in on some form and thankfully we have the luxury of taking our time with easily Beasley playing so well.

Will IT even get any minutes when he comes back? I don’t think so. Monte Morris is great too.
 
Yeah, it was ridiculous really. They hit even two of those and they would have probably won. It took away all momentum.

Also, if Durant does not take easy way and go to Warriors in 2016 Harden would have a title by now as well. If it was Harden doing the same move he would have a title by now too. :)

What if he went to Boston or if he opted to stay with OKC?
 
Can we please stop with this like it was a foregone conclusion. Even with Chris Paul there 2 of Houston's 3 wins were by a grand total of 7 points. They also got blown out by 41 with CP on the court. Pretty much every year of his career James Harden has had issues in the playoffs. Some people say it's choking, at least I prefer to say he was out of gas and give him the benefit of the doubt. Last year everything came together for the Rockets - it was their window and they still fecked it up.


Finally - some sense! ;)

Come on now. If everything came up for the Rockets then their second best player wouldn't have gone down, especially when they were up and in control of the series. That injury changed the course of the whole finals and every non-GSW fan saw that.
 
Come on now. If everything came up for the Rockets then their second best player wouldn't have gone down, especially when they were up and in control of the series. That injury changed the course of the whole finals and every non-GSW fan saw that.
In control of the series is really stretching things. They we're up 3-2 having just won games 4 and 5 by a total of 7 points. Both of those games could have gone either way. If people are calling the Rockets unlucky because they we're dumb enough to keep shooting 3s until they missed 27 of them then surely you can at least say the .Dubs were unlucky when the ball bounced off Draymond's knee in the last 10 seconds when they had a chance to win the game with a three at the end of game 5. Also as has already been pointed out, if Iggy doesn't get hurt the series is over in five.
 
In control of the series is really stretching things. They we're up 3-2 having just won games 4 and 5 by a total of 7 points. Both of those games could have gone either way. If people are calling the Rockets unlucky because they we're dumb enough to keep shooting 3s until they missed 27 of them then surely you can at least say the .Dubs were unlucky when the ball bounced off Draymond's knee in the last 10 seconds when they had a chance to win the game with a three at the end of game 5. Also as has already been pointed out, if Iggy doesn't get hurt the series is over in five.

I think it’s a little bit more unlucky to miss 27 threes in a row when you’ve been shooting like 35% or better all season than to not score a game winning three on your last possession.
 
I think it’s a little bit more unlucky to miss 27 threes in a row when you’ve been shooting like 35% or better all season than to not score a game winning three on your last possession.
The point I was trying to make is that it's not unlucky to miss 27 threes in a row, it's just stupid. If something is not working you don't just keep doing it, you try something else. That"s the trouble with Houston, they didn't and still don't have a plan B.
 
The point I was trying to make is that it's not unlucky to miss 27 threes in a row, it's just stupid. If something is not working you don't just keep doing it, you try something else. That"s the trouble with Houston, they didn't and still don't have a plan B.

I would agree if they were trying to score contested three after contested three. Plenty of them were open looks though and if you got them, you shoot them.
 
That Lakers offer for Davis was disgusting. Ball, Kuzma, Rono, Beasley and a first so virtually Ball, Kuzma and a first. It might have been a way of them saying we already have an agreement with him for 2020 so nobody will offer you more.
 
I really hope Atlanta get Zion. They are the sort of tanking team I can easily get behind. They had a good team in place but could not win titles as they missed that alpha type player in crucial moments, then when they were trying to get one Horford left them so they just gave it another year with Millsap leading the team and dismantled it. Now it seems they want to collect as much young talent as possible.

It’s not like Chicago, Knicks and Phoenix who are just terribly run franchises. Cleveland have had way too many number one picks.

They obviously should not have traded Doncic for Trae but I think Trae has actually been fairly good recently and has improved his shooting. Huerter and Collins are great and they are a fun team. Zion would be perfect there and I hope they get a good pick out of Dallas.