I thought the same until he started playing NCAA basketball. I would still prefer Barrett but, Zion has exceeded expectation so far.
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I thought the same until he started playing NCAA basketball. I would still prefer Barrett but, Zion has exceeded expectation so far.
Why'd you hate it?
The city reminded me of Melbourne a little (same with Toronto) - great places to eat, wide streets, weed in the air, Melbourne style coffee/cafes, nice parks, interesting style houses, etc. beaches and the ocean everywhere.
Mind you we were only there for a few days, and we never crossed the bridge to Oakland.
The Zinger has been traded to Dallas? WTF. What are the Knicks thinking?
There has to be picks involved, surely? Otherwise that's just straight up robbery for the Mavs.
Edit: seen the picks involved, that softens the blow.
They've spoken publicly about how to go about tanking.
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He is a once in a generation talent I have no doubt about that he has everything to be an all star and be dominant in the league.
Should I drink a glass of bleach or go with the old toaster in the bathtub technique ? because I still can not get over this fecking trade!
It's a tough one to take for sure. How did it come to this?
Multiple reasons:
1) KP showing he has been disgruntled with the franchise from very early into his time there. He doesn't like their strategy of losing, he doesn't like their moves and he didn't seem to be on the best terms with the ownership and management. I think them wanting to keep him on the sideline for the rest of season in order to avoid winning and get a high pick has contributed as well.
2) He is going to be RFA this offseason and could have just taken qualifying offer without signing a sheet with anybody. He would then become UFA next year and his value would have dropped even lower.
3) He's coming back from one year off with torn ACL, you never know how good he is going to be. They have his medical records so might have known more.
4) They have intel that they are capable of getting a big free agent - probably Durant - and know he would prefer if someone established came with him (Kyrie, Kemba). They needed to clear salary to be able to afford 2-3 new players and nobody was going to take Hardaway and Lee without getting something in return. They were not going to receive picks attached to them, Ntilikina's value is too low and Knox was probably higher on Knicks list so Porzingis was a natural choice.
Obviously the issue is the return they got which is small but I don't think there were too many teams who could have offered them cap space AND give them someone better than Smith.
Doncic not being an All-Star has to be a joke, or am I buying into the hype too much? I know the West is stacked but come on, it should be fun for the fans, not exactly the best players imo. D-Rose same, should be there and would make it more fun.
I think Harris in particular was robbed. Not sure how Thompson got in too, Harris, Gobert, DeRozan and Doncic have all been better this season.
Edit: forgot about Jrue Holiday and Booker - they're most deserving alongside Harris.
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Having time to calm down, I don't think the trade is all that bad. In fact if there is an assurance from a KD that he will be coming then it is a great deal.
KP has acted like a little diva for a couple of years now. Aside from 2 good months at the start of last season, He still has alot to achieve, and i'd be more worried about giving a 7'3 guy with injury issues the max deal. That is something the old Knicks regime would do.
Now if we strike out in Free Agency then yes, it has been a horrible trade. But then again if we do get 2 max free agents, Zion, Smith jr and 2 draft picks out of it then we certainly cannot complain.
KP has acted like a little diva for a couple of years now. Aside from 2 good months at the start of last season, He still has alot to achieve, and i'd be more worried about giving a 7'3 guy with injury issues the max deal. That is something the old Knicks regime would do.
Now if we strike out in Free Agency then yes, it has been a horrible trade. But then again if we do get 2 max free agents, Zion, Smith jr and 2 draft picks out of it then we certainly cannot complain.
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Legend. And Big Honey is a great nickname, hope it sticks around.
Also, no room for Doncic, let's get real.
Legend. And Big Honey is a great nickname, hope it sticks around.
Also, no room for Doncic, let's get real.
He seems like a funny and goofy mofo.
I would not have Klay Thompson in the All-Star game this year but cannot argue with everyone else in there being ahead of Doncic. MAYBE Aldridge.
I agree that Harris should be there, probably ahead of Doncic too due to team record.
I tend to agree, Porzingis had to be traded it seems and there really might not have been that much value to be had here while also getting rid of Hardaway and Lee in the same deal. Of course Hardaway and Lee should have never been given those deals but if I'm not mistaken it was not current FO who gave those offers (definitely Lee).
There are not many good rookie scale players available, Smith was probably one of the best available young players on a team friendly deal controlled by the team. I don't think he will amount to much but if you get two top tier free agents then he's probably serviceable next to them.
I agree with all of this now that I slept on it my only hope is that they really are 90% sure they can get to the likes of a Durant or a kyrie because if not then this whole move was just a gamble. If they only end up with say Jimmy Butler and Kemba then it is not worth it. If they get KD and then another superstar now we’re talking.
They have to be sure they can get TWO max free agents. If they can only get one this move was still pointless.
Looks like Kyrie might not stay in Boston.
I'd leave, most racist fans of any city
Kyrie, KD and Jordan in NYK seem likely IMO. KD will want another superstar there, while he is good friend of Jordan.
I hope that KD stays at Dubs though.
I hope that KD stays at Dubs though.
Jordan? Not renouncing him makes it impossible for them to sign second max player. I actually think they won’t even be able to bring one max free agent with his cap hold.
Maybe they will renounce him and sign him back on a minimum deal but his skill set just doesn’t work at all in this league. That would be an utterly ridiculous move.
They have to get rid of him in the next two weeks and let him to a playoffs team.
Their moves from now have to be signing two max free agents, signing a good mid-level exception player and look for any minimum players that want to sign with them. They will have some half decent young players in Knox, Smith and whoever they draft (they will be able to get one of Zion, Ja, RJ, Reddish or someone like Culver, Porter or Johnson).
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I dont understand articles like this. If KP went to the FO and suggested they trade him cuz he is unhappy with the Knicks, what were they supposed to do?
I dont understand articles like this. If KP went to the FO and suggested they trade him cuz he is unhappy with the Knicks, what were they supposed to do?
Do nothing. He is a RFA they could match any offer anyone makes for him. Even if we got Kyrie and Durant I still think this trade is completely terrible.
Why did the lakers get rid of D'Angelo Russel?
Had to attach an asset to get off the Mozgov contract and open up cap space.
I feel like he is a better player than Lonzo Ball, should've kept him instead imo.
And keep an unhappy player who doesn't want to be there?
I'm not talking about the particulars of this trade, I'm not really sure if they could have gotten a better deal somewhere else.
I'm just saying how could they not trade an unhappy player and keep him?
What if he doesn't sign anything and leaves as an unrestricted FA the year after?
They can’t match shit if he takes QO and he’s apparently prepared to do that.
Don't tell me after Sporting you support the Knicks?
Lonzo was a no. 2 pick at the time. Would have been crazy to trade that to get rid of a deal.
They should have called his bluff. He is really going to turn down all that money coming off of an ACL injury?
Kyrie was unhappy in 2014 with the Cavs and he still took the 5 year 90 million deal from the Cavs. And that was before LeBron said he was coming back to the Cavs.
And D'Angelo was traded before the Lakers even picked Lonzo.
Who knows? If he feels that he’s healthy he’s going to get that money in 2020 AND choose who he plays for. It’s not like he’s Nerlens Noel who has little basketball skills.