no big FAs have gone there because they've been so rubbish. if the Knicks had a good young team with some promise, they would be attractive. if given a choice between New York and any other city in the USA outside of say SF, LA or Miami, FAs would choose NY.
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no big FAs have gone there because they've been so rubbish. if the Knicks had a good young team with some promise, they would be attractive. if given a choice between New York and any other city in the USA outside of say SF, LA or Miami, FAs would choose NY.
Yeah our depth runs very deep at the moment. It helped us get off to a franchise record through the first 50 games - despite missing Harris and Barton for the majority of that period, and Millsap for a fair chunk of it too.
Guys like Morris and Beasley are really showing that they have the ability to be starters in the league. Beasley is shooting lights-out and Morris has a ridiculous A/TO ratio (best in the league I heard?), whilst shooting efficiently too.
Vanderbilt has had a nice start in the G League, but it's only been two games so far. I think Malone was smart to let him play the last few minutes of the blowout win v the 76ers, it gave him a taste. If he can work on his scoring/shooting then we will have the perfect Millsap replacement, a hard defender who can have an impact on the boards and can pass/playmake from the post.
Fingers crossed with MPJ. I've heard (via reports) that he's the best shooter in practice. If we can get him and Vanderbilt up and running then the team can move up a gear as the two forward positions are our weakest currently.
Fans have called for Malone's head over the last few seasons, but we have to give him credit for driving the development of this side. He can make some questionable decisions occasionally, but he's seemingly a great man manager.
yeh i could see the Warriors maxing both Klay and Durant, Boogie will leave, and then they let Green leave the year after, unless they really want to pay a shedload in luxury tax.
Curry, Durant and Klay is the core going forward.
if Durant does leave, they can keep Green.
i hope Durant does leave. better for the league. but i think he stays at the Warriors now, winning is contagious.
Why do players love LA? It's a turd of a city.
San Fran and NY are amazing though.
San Fran and NY are amazing though.
I don't think that's tampering at all.
By going public Davis is restricting the bargaining power of NO, whereas Pop is telling Del to stay strong (presumably in order to get the best deal for NO).
It isn't tampering, but the NBA is usually quick to deal with things they deem unfair.
It's more just me thinking out loud .
Basketball reasons...
Ya I know but they were always going to tank and I have a strong feeling they will get the 1st pick. If they manage to get Zion who is box office and looks a generational talented partnered with KP who is a beast and still young then with free agency coming all of a sudden NYC becomes a very interesting prospect.
With that being said I am just a Knicks fans getting my hopes up with the hope we stop being a completely trash and horribly run organization.
As for the Nets I mean they have done well considering they gave up so many picks in that deal with Celtics a few years ago but no matter what the Knicks are the Knicks and MSG is still the greatest venue in the NBA and if the Knicks were to get Zion the only team that would matter in New York is the Knicks.
Of course Knicks are much more relevant in New York but when it comes to building a team this does not really matter all that much. Nets have great scouting, the players they have picked up through draft have all outgrown their position in the draft (LeVert, Allen) or look like they will (Kurucs), they've picked some very solid cheap talent (Dinwiddie, Harris) and will have lots of cap space. They don't have to go for the top tier of talent, if they can dig into that second tier and get someone like Tobias Harris or Middleton then they will be well equipped to become a solid playoffs team with potential to do more. Russell has been absolutely INCREDIBLE for them recently as well.
As for Zion, if they get him (again, 14% chance that they do), I suspect they will be trying to flip that for Anthony Davis still. I don't think they should but if they feel getting AD will get them KD then they will do that, however I think having a prospect of playing with Zion, Porzingis and a nucleous of talented young players - plus possibly getting another good free agent - could also be appealing to KD or other big free agents.
Zion is immense though, I think he may be one in a generation kind of talent. I'm sure Pelicans would love to get him for AD, it's the best possible scenario for them because they get someone who instantly brings attention to the franchise. Even though Tatum is more NBA proven, his marketability is not at that level. Whoever gets no. 1 pick will have a shot at getting AD but I think only Knicks would actually try.
I agree with everything you said about the Nets and also have a soft spot for them because of Jason Kidd. Still I dont see any top player joining them in the near future so the most they can hope for is to be a playoff team ( which is not a bad thing)
As for what you said about Zion. The Knicks trading Zion for AD would be the most KNICKS thing they could do like literally reading that sent chills thru my stones because it sound like something a dumb organization like the Knicks would do. You set it right Zion is a generational player who if he joins the Knicks will have not even touched the surface of his potential it would be a catastrophe to trade him lookin for "immediate" success. Like you said Zion plus KP plus a good free agent I think would bring someone like KD to a team and city like NYC and the prospect of KD having his own team which he wants and having what would be some great teammates all big dudes who can drop 40 any night and potentially leading NYC to a title they haven't seen in over 50 years would do a lot for his career. Once again though I am in absolute LALA land because none of this will happen
Also what are the likes that Lonzo ball lands in NYC in a possible LA and Pelicans trade for AD?
Not seeing it. Unless Knicks give up their pick or agree to take on some long term salary then there is no way to get into that deal.
I agree with everything you said about the Nets and also have a soft spot for them because of Jason Kidd. Still I dont see any top player joining them in the near future so the most they can hope for is to be a playoff team ( which is not a bad thing)
As for what you said about Zion. The Knicks trading Zion for AD would be the most KNICKS thing they could do like literally reading that sent chills thru my stones because it sound like something a dumb organization like the Knicks would do. You set it right Zion is a generational player who if he joins the Knicks will have not even touched the surface of his potential it would be a catastrophe to trade him lookin for "immediate" success. Like you said Zion plus KP plus a good free agent I think would bring someone like KD to a team and city like NYC and the prospect of KD having his own team which he wants and having what would be some great teammates all big dudes who can drop 40 any night and potentially leading NYC to a title they haven't seen in over 50 years would do a lot for his career. Once again though I am in absolute LALA land because none of this will happen
Yeah I would trade 14% chance at Zion AND Porzingis coming off injury for Davis in a heartbeat but if I actually got a no. 1 picks and a healthy Porzingis who shows he can still play at pre-injury level then I’m probably not making that deal. There is though the question of whether KD agrees to come without AD there and if the answer is no then you give it another thought.
I think if Knicks sniff a chance to get Davis and have him extended they will do whatever it takes though. I’m not sure how that would be a better situation for him unless KD or another big free agent also comes.
I would have said Kemba was a perfect free agency target but the likelihood of him leaving Charlotte is very low. Kemba, Zion, Porzingis and Knox would be a fun team.
Ive heard rumors of Kemba, Butler, Kyrie ( I wish) but I think the only way these guys land in NYC is dependent on how the Knicks set themselves up.
Also keep an eye on the Clippers I think they are setting up for some very serious moves.
Pelicans need to look for a package built around a player with clear potential (Tatum, Porzingis) and draft picks IMO.
Actually having thought about this more I reckon Lakers are better off waiting until Summer and seeing if they can get that max free agent though. I would try to flip one of their expirings for a longer term salary though just to make sure I have enough salary to send back to Pelicans without including EVERYONE. I would keep the likes of Hart, Svi and Wagner because why not, Pels are not going to want them that much. This would be a minor move for Lakers because they can not commit to more than $5million more for next year as they need to have that max space.
Thinking of this they really got proper fecked by that 2016 Summer. If they hadn’t gone and got Mozgov and Deng they would still have Russell AND would probably still have max space this Summer without all the hassle of stretching Deng, not to mention Russell would be great on this team or a major trade piece for Anthony Davis.
Actually having thought about this more I reckon Lakers are better off waiting until Summer and seeing if they can get that max free agent though. I would try to flip one of their expirings for a longer term salary though just to make sure I have enough salary to send back to Pelicans without including EVERYONE. I would keep the likes of Hart, Svi and Wagner because why not, Pels are not going to want them that much. This would be a minor move for Lakers because they can not commit to more than $5million more for next year as they need to have that max space.
Thinking of this they really got proper fecked by that 2016 Summer. If they hadn’t gone and got Mozgov and Deng they would still have Russell AND would probably still have max space this Summer without all the hassle of stretching Deng, not to mention Russell would be great on this team or a major trade piece for Anthony Davis.
Whoever gets Butler is shooting themselves in the foot though.
I think Clippers have a good shot at Kawhi and I have them as dark horses for Durant. If Kawhi does not stay in Toronto that’s where I see him headed.
I think Kawhi is most likely to be a Clipper next season, ever so slightly more chance than a Raptor.
Yep thats exactly it. I see Kawhi in the clippers and if. that happens...Then I see KD and if that happens... well you can see where Im going with that all the dominos will fall in order.
I have no doubt he leaves the Raptors and I think he lands in LA. Which LA team is the question but I am leaning towards the Clippers.
He’s not going to the Lakers I am pretty sure of that. They had their chance last year.
I actually think Klay would be a better fit for them but Klay only leaves Warriors if KD stays and I’m not sure KD will stay st all.
This free agency will be super interesting!
I would probably bet my life KD leaves in the summer ESPECIALLY after what unfolded with Draymond Green. Durant got what he wanted he used GSW ( not that they are complaining) to get his first rings under his belt his next step is to leave that team and lead his own team especially with an aging Lebron ( no signs of it).He’s not going to the Lakers I am pretty sure of that. They had their chance last year.
I actually think Klay would be a better fit for them but Klay only leaves Warriors if KD stays and I’m not sure KD will stay st all.
This free agency will be super interesting!
If I an any other team besides the Lakers I dont see any point in offering as much as they would have too just to land AD for a year.
If you get a year to try and convince him it might be worth a try. Paul George was supposed to go to Lakers as well.
I hated San Fran when I went there, San Diego though is the best place in Cali imo.
Then Klay 100% stays. He won’t ditch Steph and Warriors will of course offer him a max deal. I like it, Warriors go back to what they were minus Barnes (who replaces him?).
This trade with all the Lakers young core and the first round pick for AD is really interesting. Pels might not get a better deal than that and I just find it strange from the Lakers point of view . I understand that the Lakers are desperate for success but I wonder what the fans actually think . I think that if it goes wrong then it could be really ugly for the Lakers for years to come
There are some decent options for the barnes position preferably a guy who can hit the three.
Lakers have always been about having the biggest stars. This whole young core shit was always out of character for them.
I would Love Damien Lillard in a better team then Portland most underrated guy in the NBA. Dude is a straight baller.
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Lakers president Magic Johnson and Pelicans GM Dell Demps spoke on the phone Tuesday about to proceed with a deal regarding Anthony Davis, who has requested a trade, per sources
Lakers president Magic Johnson and the Lakers then presented five different trade scenarios to Demps on Wednesday and are waiting to hear back from Demps about which interest him the most, per sources.
Lakers want to get deal done and have no plans on trying to outbid Celtics during the summer because Lakers will then pursue other free agents besides AD.
Sources: Lakers let Demps know one of trade scenarios would include Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Ivica Zubac, No. 1 pick, per source.
Lakers president Magic Johnson and Pelicans GM Dell Demps spoke on the phone Tuesday about to proceed with a deal regarding Anthony Davis, who has requested a trade, per sources
Lakers president Magic Johnson and the Lakers then presented five different trade scenarios to Demps on Wednesday and are waiting to hear back from Demps about which interest him the most, per sources.
Lakers want to get deal done and have no plans on trying to outbid Celtics during the summer because Lakers will then pursue other free agents besides AD.
Sources: Lakers let Demps know one of trade scenarios would include Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Brandon Ingram, Ivica Zubac, No. 1 pick, per source.
News coming out now that Kristaps Porzingis had a meeting with the Knicks organization and that he left an impression that he wants to be traded. If that happens then the Knicks have no hope anymore.
Get out of here.
CJ McCollum for Porzingis and Hardaway!
He’s a free agent this Summer and could refuse to sign any deal and become unrestricted next year, though a player coming off injury is probably not likely to do that.
Wow knicks have already finalised a trade with mavs , knicks really are a terrible franchise
For what part ? saying he is underrated or wanting him out of Portland ?
Wtf! That's it? Not even a pick?
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!!!!!!
BUT Jesus Christ that Mavs team is looking pretty dam good with Doncic, Smith JR and KP.
Knicks is a joke of a franchise.
This is an absolute joke !!
What are the Knicks getting? Fecking hell.