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Chances he force a trade then? If he ends up being as good as he’s projected you see him not looking to leave and take advantage of his best years to win something in what is a relatively short career for an athlete.
You have no idea where NO will be with Zion. You are only making that predictions because you are annoyed that they got him, didn’t you admit you’d have been annoyed with every other team getting him?
He won’t force a trade if they are a successful team just like Giannis is not chasing a trade from Bucks.
Still haven’t responded about Giannis - is he wasting his time and should Milwaukee kill themselves for wasting his time? Do Bucks deserve to exist?
Of course I would as would all Knicks fans because they wanted him in New York but let’s say the Suns got him I would not say that they would be gone after round 2 because they have some solid pieces to build around there. It’s nothing against New Orleans I just don’t see them winning anything which is an opinion I am allowed to have.
Ohhh ya I saw that, they also had some with Kermit the frog and other memes that actually had me dying
No one expected Giannis to be as good as he has turned out to be hence giannis was in a position where he was happy to get drafted ( as should all these guys be) he got better and exceeded his expected potential and Bucks also began to improve heavily as a franchise and made great moves.
Zion is coming in with probably the highest ceiling since Lebron James came.
Contrary to your probable belief I am cheering on the Bucks to win the whole thing I would love it.
New Orleans have mosquitos attending there games. Not exactly a franchise a box office player would want to stay his whole career in.
The transition from "yeahhhh" to "ohhhh" kills meOhhh ya I saw that, they also had some with Kermit the frog and other memes that actually had me dying
Story of being a Knicks fan in a nutshell.The transition from "yeahhhh" to "ohhhh" kills me
Expectation: KD and kyrie
Probability: butler and Kemba
Story of the Knicks right there.
Keep calm and watch Stephen A Smith videos . The only way to calm everything down imo is for KD to sign with the Warriors
At that point my suicide would be almost certain.
Find a buyer and move the pelicans to seattle before free agency opens. Watch KD go "home"
The city of NY sets itself on fire
The city of NY sets itself on fire
Anyone knows who Knicks are likely to draft? RJ?
Has to be Barrett, unless Grizzlies take him then Morant. I think they will trade that player anyway.
Aye, probably you are right.
Heard good things about Hunter and would be great pick for the Suns if he makes it to them. Need to improve that defence.
I think Suns will be looking to draft a point guard though. I know you shouldn’t draft for need but going into another year with Johnson, Okobo and Melton as your main point guards would be terrible. I don’t think you can expect any good point guards to come from free agency either.
I stand by what I said before, the best deal for all parties involved would be if Suns trade no. 6 pick for Ball and then Lakers package no. 4, no. 6, Ingram and a future pick for Davis.
Then New Orleans take Garland at 4 and whichever wing they like the most at 6. Maybe Reddish to appease Zion but that could be a bit of a reach at 6. Or maybe actually pick the wing at 4 because Cleveland will not take Garland anyway but will take the best wing available.
Alternatively Suns can wait until Garland falls to them. It’s entirely possible he will. Really 4-10 range is completely unpredictable... I can see all these players go 4th or 12th easily. Hunter, Garland, White, Reddish, Hayes, Culver, even Little, Doumbouya and Clarke.
Under option 1, wont the player just sign a 150m deal with another team so not really leaving money on the table?
Ball for #6 to suns and then Ingram, #4, #6 and future first(which would project outside the lottery) for AD? Don't think that's doable. Would do it in a heartbeat, mind
Honestly, if Nola are willing to take that offer i'd look into getting Jrue as well. A core of Jrue, LeBron, AD would be a contender if not outright favourites. If we can keep Kuz as well? Please
Honestly, if Nola are willing to take that offer i'd look into getting Jrue as well. A core of Jrue, LeBron, AD would be a contender if not outright favourites. If we can keep Kuz as well? Please
This is well possible scenario as well. Cavs can pick either Clarke or Hunter if they want to use it, but most probably will trade it away.
Lakers will most likely trade it away, but can pick either Culver or Garland, so Garland is possibility for Suns, indeed.
Davis might have second mind now with Zion in, but AD seems set on Lakers if we believe reports.
Doubt New Orleans will get both Garland and Reddish, IMO Cavs might go for a center - either Hayes or even Bol Bol.
If they make it through unscathed. But if they get hurt or have a down year there is no guarantee. Look at Isiah Thomas as an example. He was talking about wanting the max from Boston (which was too much but not completely impossible) and ended up taking a 1 year deal for the veterans minimum after a tear plagued with injuries and poor performance.
ELI5 how this draft lottery works
I cant decide who to root for in the east. Probably Toronto
Or maybe Milwaukee
Same here. You got to respect both Giannis and Kawhi.
I'm leaning towards bucks because I think they might give the west Champs a better series.
This is going game 7 too I feel.
Cool. Kyle Lowry just stood in a spot slightly before Middleton. So much fun to watch
I bet Lebron would have loved to have Brooke Lopez in his team
Raptors blew a pretty good chance there
Draft a PF and go after Bogdon.
I don't see Bucks keeping Bogdon, Brook and Middleton when they're all going to get paid.
Bucks should try to trade Brogdon no matter what, he's way overhyped (or was, before his injury at least) and not as good as he thinks he is.
Did you get him mixed up with somebody else or is there a story that we're missing?
He's a efficient shooter with decent defense and always finds a way to contribute to the team even when they've kept adding more talent and competition at his position. Never really heard any stories of him being cocky before when most people have reported him as being down to earth.
What? He’s awesome. Good defender, great shooter, very efficient and intelligent player. And he seems a really nice, educated boy actually.
Besides they can’t really trade him. Either extend him and he becomes tradeable in December or let him go.
I want Atlanta to go for him if he leaves Bucks. He’s from the area and would be amazing fit on that team.
Yeah I agree. They will not match anything over $15million for him. I think Brook is gone though, they will need to find another stretch five. They have to keep Middleton.
Middleton is a no-brainer and Brook will have to be the second priority. Stretch bigs aren't easy to find on the cheap, let alone one who makes rebounding easy for everyone else on the team. Brook is easily top 5 in the league in boxing out and coaches and teammates appreciate a player like that.
Bogdon's unfortunately the odd man out but he'll probably get paid instead, so that's a good consolation for him.
You've Trae, let us have a point guard instead
You've Trae, let us have a point guard instead
I think of Brogdon more as a combo-guard, not sure I want him to be my primary playmaker. They do have Huerter though who is great too.
I do have a huge soft spot for this Atlanta team but they're not really my team.
Who do you really take as a power forward with no. 6 though? It seems like this draft is just wings and guards in the top 10, aside from Zion. Hunter could become a power forward but I'm not sure if he's not more of a 3, still.
What if New Orleans tell Davis 'feck your trade request, we are keeping you and we will convince you we are the best place for you'?
They have only him at $27million, Jrue at $26million, Solomon Hill at $13million (yuck), E'twaun Moore at $8million on the books for next year. That's $74million, and Zion will make $9million himself. You can waive and stretch Hill and he counts as $4million next year. You can attach a couple of second rounders and trade Moore. That frees up further $17million of cap space, and you're down to $66million. That's $42million of cap space.
You look at those available free agents, you don't really need to find yourself a superstar out there to compete when you have Holiday, Davis and Zion. People shit on them but their record with Jrue and AD on the floor last season was top 5 in the league, it's when either off them was off the floor that they surrendered defensively and could not get going. With Zion a lot of that could go away.
You don't go for Kemba Walker and give him a deal you won't be able to get out of, but you instead go for the second tier of free agents. Sign 2-3 guys in the $10million to $15million range. You offer Bojan Bogdanovic $12million, offer Danny Green and JJ Redick $10million, Rudy Gay, Patrick Beverley, Ricky Rubio, Jeremy Lamb. You go after these guys and you try to run it for another year. If things still look bleak in January, you trade AD to the highest bidder. You may not get full package but you will still get yourself a good deal because you need to remember teams like Lakers and Knicks will not be able to just go for him in free agency if they sign high profile free agents this year, and neither will Celtics.
Defensively Jrue, AD and Zion is just an incredible line up. If Zion is as good as they say this could be a contender with good surrounding pieces.
They have only him at $27million, Jrue at $26million, Solomon Hill at $13million (yuck), E'twaun Moore at $8million on the books for next year. That's $74million, and Zion will make $9million himself. You can waive and stretch Hill and he counts as $4million next year. You can attach a couple of second rounders and trade Moore. That frees up further $17million of cap space, and you're down to $66million. That's $42million of cap space.
You look at those available free agents, you don't really need to find yourself a superstar out there to compete when you have Holiday, Davis and Zion. People shit on them but their record with Jrue and AD on the floor last season was top 5 in the league, it's when either off them was off the floor that they surrendered defensively and could not get going. With Zion a lot of that could go away.
You don't go for Kemba Walker and give him a deal you won't be able to get out of, but you instead go for the second tier of free agents. Sign 2-3 guys in the $10million to $15million range. You offer Bojan Bogdanovic $12million, offer Danny Green and JJ Redick $10million, Rudy Gay, Patrick Beverley, Ricky Rubio, Jeremy Lamb. You go after these guys and you try to run it for another year. If things still look bleak in January, you trade AD to the highest bidder. You may not get full package but you will still get yourself a good deal because you need to remember teams like Lakers and Knicks will not be able to just go for him in free agency if they sign high profile free agents this year, and neither will Celtics.
Defensively Jrue, AD and Zion is just an incredible line up. If Zion is as good as they say this could be a contender with good surrounding pieces.
Or just go all in and sign KD/Kawhi/Butler. feck the depth, a team of Jrue - who cares - KD - Zion - Davis would be incredible. Of course, KD/Kawhi/Butler aren't going there, but it is a good thought experiment.
None of these guys will consider New Orleans though. Middleton is about as high as they can reach.