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Griffin made poor decisions for Cleveland imo though, it's not like he's some super GM who's renowned for rebuilding franchises or getting the right pieces to surround a superstar. LeBron was never truly satisfied with his supporting cast and didn't he draft Andrew Wiggins and Anthony Bennett as well?
Wolves drafted Wiggins I think.
 
You are right about one thing I am mad we didn't get #1 and I am also a wee bit salty (a lot) which is making me a hater (possibly) BUT I would bet my kidneys he wins nothing in 6 years in NO and then leaves as a free agent like Lebron did.

Don't be too down, and I say this as a Knicks fan. We still have a lot of reasons to be optimistic this Summer. We have a better future than both the Lakers and Pelicans (even with Zion) IMO. AD will leave Nola regardless.
 
I'm not sure I like the fit of Davis and Zion anyway. LeBron and Davis either.
 
Of course we do. A team of Jrue, Zion and Randle ain't making any noise in the west.
iF we attempt to trade for AD I hope we dont give up Robnson. And ya Nolo is a small basketball market they wont sniff a second round playoff at all. He will be gone that much is.given half of his career will be a waist like AD.
 
I don't think they'll trade AD for nothing.
I think the only "pull" NY has to Make a trade is the possibility to reunite Zion and RJ together and build a future good team MAYBE. Along with a few of Knicks young core.
 
What exactly do you think you can offer for Anthony Davis?
*Before I say this keep in mind I don't believe this will happen AT ALL but it a possibility.

Knicks could offer the 3rd pick (RJ) along with Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson and the 2 first round mavericks picks.

Thats more then what LA could offer granted I think its A LOT to offer.
 
And why would reuniting Barrett and Williamson be a good thing? Barrett isnt that great of a prospect and he somehow took 40% more shots than Zion last year.
They have that chemistry of playing together at Duke and coupled with everything I posted above they would set up there franchise for the next 10 years.
 
iF we attempt to trade for AD I hope we dont give up Robnson. And ya Nolo is a small basketball market they wont sniff a second round playoff at all. He will be gone that much is.given half of his career will be a waist like AD.

After comments like this, which seem to be common today for the Knicks fans, I hope Durant and Kyrie tell you to feck off and you play out the next decade with Dennis Smith Jr as your star. For some reason you think you've been so much better than New Orleans over the years despite the crap you've served, and are somehow owed that first round pick for being awful.
 
*Before I say this keep in mind I don't believe this will happen AT ALL but it a possibility.

Knicks could offer the 3rd pick (RJ) along with Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson and the 2 first round mavericks picks.

Thats more then what LA could offer granted I think its A LOT to offer.
I'm never accepting that.

Jesus, that lottery show is so cringey. It's baffling how bad ESPN is, considering their resources. Rachel Nichols is one of the most obnoxious and unfunny people on TV and Woj has the wit and charisma of a damp rag. Why would you have them blabbering over the whole show?
 
They have that chemistry of playing together at Duke and coupled with everything I posted above they would set up there franchise for the next 10 years.

They played together for 35 games and Barrett took 40% more shots and isnt even that good. He will have more chemistry with Jrue by the all star break.
 
*Before I say this keep in mind I don't believe this will happen AT ALL but it a possibility.

Knicks could offer the 3rd pick (RJ) along with Kevin Knox, Mitchell Robinson and the 2 first round mavericks picks.

Thats more then what LA could offer granted I think its A LOT to offer.

You just said no Robinson. And I'm not taking that deal over one with Ball, Kuzma, 4 and a future first or Tatum, Smart and a first. The Knicks have barely any assets, get over it.
 
After comments like this, which seem to be common today for the Knicks fans, I hope Durant and Kyrie tell you to feck off and you play out the next decade with Dennis Smith Jr as your star. For some reason you think you've been so much better than New Orleans over the years despite the crap you've served, and are somehow owed that first round pick for being awful.
I never said any of that though and you are simply not reading what I am saying. At least read it correctly.

I never said we have been better then Nolo, I never said we are owed anything, We have been BY FAR the worst run franchise in the NBA next to the Suns. Make no mistake about it.

All I AM SAYING is Nolo and Zion wont win SHIT down there just like AD didn't. He will leave in 6 years just like LBJ did and just how AD will. That has nothing to do with the Knicks being owed anything.

Now would Zion and NYC be a better match? Not even a debate Big player big star power big franchise best arena in the NBA that's box office but that has nothing to do with Nolo not winning anything and the Knicks being "owed" anything.

Lastly IF the Knicks get KD and Kyrie then yes there future is MUCH better then New Orleans.
 
You just said no Robinson. And I'm not taking that deal over one with Ball, Kuzma, 4 and a future first or Tatum, Smart and a first. The Knicks have barely any assets, get over it.
"Get over it" did you not read the beginning where I clearly said I did not think it would happen? Do people not read in this thread?
 
I've read a bunch of bitterness and delusions.
I am bitter 100% I've said that. Yet again... But saying Nolo wont win a championship in 6 years and in the west is not a delusion and by saying Zion will want to leave for a bigger market after his 6 years is not delusion. If you think it is then thats more on you then it is me.
 
I am bitter 100% I've said that. Yet again... But saying Nolo wont win a championship in 6 years and in the west is not a delusion and by saying Zion will want to leave for a bigger market after his 6 years is not delusion. If you think it is then thats more on you then it is me.

It's just wild speculation and its fueled by your bitterness. You have no idea what will happen. This team was in the second round last year. This isnt like the Cavs that lebron joined. There are a lot of interesting pieces and David Griffin is decent. Its foolish to make some of the grand proclamations you have made.
 
New Orleans never built well around Anthony Davis. They didn't deserve another generational player. That being said, it's pretty fecking hilarious.
 
It's just wild speculation and its fueled by your bitterness. You have no idea what will happen. This team was in the second round last year. This isnt like the Cavs that lebron joined. There are a lot of interesting pieces and David Griffin is decent. Its foolish to make some of the grand proclamations you have made.
It's really not that foolish. 10 different teams have won titles in the last 35 years, and I'm willing to bet that NOLA won't be added to that list in the next five years.

They fecked up AD's first years in the league and even if they do better with Zion, the West is stacked and the odds are against them. Of course you can never look that far in the future, but I'd say it's very likely that they won't win a championship in the near future.
 
It's really not that foolish. 10 different teams have won titles in the last 35 years, and I'm willing to bet that NOLA won't be added to that list in the next five years.

They fecked up AD's first years in the league and even if they do better with Zion, the West is stacked and the odds are against them. Of course you can never look that far in the future, but I'd say it's very likely that they won't win a championship in the near future.
100%
 
It's just wild speculation and its fueled by your bitterness. You have no idea what will happen. This team was in the second round last year. This isnt like the Cavs that lebron joined. There are a lot of interesting pieces and David Griffin is decent. Its foolish to make some of the grand proclamations you have made.
I can say that Sporting will win the Champions league in the next 6 Years because we have no idea what will happen in the future but we both know that will never happen. This is similar except Nolo obviously have a better chance at winning in there Sport then Sporting in football. The point is I would bet my left nut they dont even get to a conference finals in 6 years let alone win a chip. then like I said a bigger market is where he is headed. There is a reason AD wont stay there even with Zion and its because he knows they wont win anything.
 
It's really not that foolish. 10 different teams have won titles in the last 35 years, and I'm willing to bet that NOLA won't be added to that list in the next five years.

They fecked up AD's first years in the league and even if they do better with Zion, the West is stacked and the odds are against them. Of course you can never look that far in the future, but I'd say it's very likely that they won't win a championship in the near future.

29/30 teams have <50% odds to win a championship in the next 5 years. That's a really pedantic reading of the conversation. I think they can win playoff series within 5 years.
 
It's just wild speculation and its fueled by your bitterness. You have no idea what will happen. This team was in the second round last year. This isnt like the Cavs that lebron joined. There are a lot of interesting pieces and David Griffin is decent. Its foolish to make some of the grand proclamations you have made.

The Pelicans couldn't manage to build around Davis, and is a strong candidate to be moved as the attendance sucks. I'd be absolutely shocked if a team of Zion, Jrue and some Laker cast offs were to be a title contender in the next 5 years.
 
29/30 teams have <50% odds to win a championship in the next 5 years. That's a really pedantic reading of the conversation. I think they can win playoff series within 5 years.
Think you can say that about any team in the league though right now.
 
After comments like this, which seem to be common today for the Knicks fans, I hope Durant and Kyrie tell you to feck off and you play out the next decade with Dennis Smith Jr as your star. For some reason you think you've been so much better than New Orleans over the years despite the crap you've served, and are somehow owed that first round pick for being awful.

Concentrate on your own team. Blazers getting swept and KD probably doesn't even have to lace up. Embarrassing really for a WCF.
 
I can say that Sporting will win the Champions league in the next 6 Years because we have no idea what will happen in the future but we both know that will never happen. This is similar except Nolo obviously have a better chance at winning in there Sport then Sporting in football. The point is I would bet my left nut they dont even get to a conference finals in 6 years let alone win a chip. then like I said a bigger market is where he is headed. There is a reason AD wont stay there even with Zion and its because he knows they wont win anything.

Davis wont stay because they made bad moves and didnt contend. If they make good moves with Zion and contend, he might stay. You don't know that they wont make good moves and thus you dont know he will leave. Garnett stayed in Minnesota for 12 years. Duncan stayed in San Antonio his whole career. Nowitzki stayed in Dallas his whole career. Durant was in OKC for 9 years. Westbrook is still in OKC. Kemba Walker - 8 and counting in Charlotte. John Wall - 9 and counting in Washington. Lillard - 7 and counting in Portland. Aldridge was in Portland for 9. Mike Conley - 12 and counting in Memphis. Marc Gasol - 11 in Memphis.


The idea that Zion will automatically leave is wrong.
 
The Pelicans couldn't manage to build around Davis, and is a strong candidate to be moved as the attendance sucks. I'd be absolutely shocked if a team of Zion, Jrue and some Laker cast offs were to be a title contender in the next 5 years.

They had a different GM who made short sighted moves because they wanted to demonstrate to their star that they could win. It helped them compete earlier but lowered their overall ceiling, like Cleveland did in Lebrons first stint.
 
I never said any of that though and you are simply not reading what I am saying. At least read it correctly.

I never said we have been better then Nolo, I never said we are owed anything, We have been BY FAR the worst run franchise in the NBA next to the Suns. Make no mistake about it.

All I AM SAYING is Nolo and Zion wont win SHIT down there just like AD didn't. He will leave in 6 years just like LBJ did and just how AD will. That has nothing to do with the Knicks being owed anything.

Now would Zion and NYC be a better match? Not even a debate Big player big star power big franchise best arena in the NBA that's box office but that has nothing to do with Nolo not winning anything and the Knicks being "owed" anything.

Lastly IF the Knicks get KD and Kyrie then yes there future is MUCH better then New Orleans.

You are spitting at New Orleans for no reason, condemning them to failure and saying they will be shit and Zion will leave them just because they ended up above you in lottery. If you got no. 1 (because of being an utterly shit franchise for years which resulted in higher lottery odds) and they ended up 3rd or 4th you wouldn't even comment on them but because they stole Zion that only beautiful Knicks deserves you are shitting on them.