Nba 2011-2012

Bobcats may end up with the Davis kid who is meant to be an incredible talent. That team is a joke and is one of the teams that should be killed off so the league contracts to 26 teams.

The West is getting very interesting. The Spurs and OKC battling it out for the number one seed and the LA teams battling it out for three and four. Hopefully Kobe comes back and that helps us secure the number three seed, I do not want us to be playing Memphis in the first round of the play-offs.

Pop has to be coach of the year, once again he has done an incredible job with that team.
 
Michael Jordan is an awful owner. His original strategy was to draft as many UNC players as possible to try to draw Carolina fans. Here's a hint, most NC basketball fans don't give a damn about the NBA. True story.
 
Memphis will knock out either LA team in my opinion.

There's been a lot of fire in this Bulls Heat matchup... there will be blood when they meet in the conference finals.
 
Anthony Davis is an absolute beast. Probably the best talent since Lebron came out in 03. He's sneaky good offensively, reasonably skilled, decent to good mid range jumper.. and defensively, he's an animal. Give him a couple of years to build up some size, and he's a franchise player.

I'm holding out for a Clips/Lakers conference semi's.. I'd fly to L.A. to watch that.
 
Brilliant game between OKC and the Lakers, LA winning in 2OT. Kobe struggled but got us back into the game hitting some big shots as he usually does, Bynum was benched in favour of Hill who got a double-double. Metta wasn't very peaceful as he got ejected for an elbow on Harden.

Big win for us, that should be enough to secure the number 3 seed.
 
ha_rooney said:
Brilliant game between OKC and the Lakers, LA winning in 2OT. Kobe struggled but got us back into the game hitting some big shots as he usually does, Bynum was benched in favour of Hill who got a double-double. Metta wasn't very peaceful as he got ejected for an elbow on Harden.

Big win for us, that should be enough to secure the number 3 seed.
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I truly hate the lakers, but that win just netted me $2k.

I had the under for OKC for the season line. I won't speak ill of the lakers or Kobe for the next 2 days.
 
I'm slightly biased, but i'd give the MVP to CP3. He had a lazy 33 pts, 13 asts, 5 boards and 8 steals today..

He's turned that clippers team to a contender. Heck, Randy Foye looks OK.

That Clippers team has some serious limitations too... Terrible coach, no interior scoring, blake being a bit one dimensional, no wings who can penetrate.. CP is that good.
 
I thought I'd make a list of how badly Charotte has drafted in their history. I forget when Jordan stopped making the picks, my guess would be 2010. To their credit that was a weak draft and they did well to get out of it and pick up Ty Lawson in the process. I rate Kemba Walker quite highly, he should be their PG for many years, once he beats out DJ Augustin, who to be fair is a pretty good player and either their best or 2nd best pick depending on how you see Walker.

Hard to say yet about Biyombo but I'm a skeptic. The list shows the players drafted behind each of Charlotte's pick that imo would have been better choices. Of course everyone wishes they had picked Danny Granger, so I'm not trying to make them look unfairly stupid. But on the whole they've missed a whole lot of players and have captured their first gem this year, imo.


Charlotte Bobcats Drafts

2004:
Emeka Okafor [2] drafted before: Igoudala, Josh Smith, Al Jefferson, Luol Deng, Kris Humphries, Jameer Nelson, Kevin Martin, Anderson Varejao
Bernard Robinson [46]

2005:
Raymond Felton [5] before: Andrew Bynum
Sean May [13] before: Danny Granger, David Lee, Ersan Illyasova, Marcin Gortat

2006:
Adam Morrison [3] before: Brandon Roy, Rudy Gay, Rajon Rondo, Kyle Lowry
Ryan Hollins [50]

2007:
Brandan Wright [8] before: Spencer Hawes, Thaddeus Young, Rodney Stuckey, Marco Belinelli
Jared Dudley [22] before: Wilson Chandler, Aaron Brooks, Aaron Afflalo, Tiago Splitter, Carl Landry, Glen Davis, Marc Gasol, Ramon Sessions

2008:
D. J. Augustin [8] before: Brook Lopez, Jason Thompson, Roy Hibbert.
Alexis Ajinca [20] before: Ryan Anderson, Serge Ibaka, Nicolas Batum, George Hill, Luc Mbah a Moute
Kyle Weaver [38] before: Goran Dragic, Bill Walker

2009:
Gerald Henderson [12] before: Tyler Hansbrough, James Johnson, Ty Lawson, Taj Gibson, DeJuan Blair
Derrick Brown [40] before: Jodie Meeks, Marcus Thornton, Danny Green
Robert Vaden [54]

2010:
No Pick [traded #16 effectively for Ty Lawson, traded #46 in 5 player deal]

2011:
Bisback Biyombo [7] before: Klay Thompson, Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris, Kawhi Leonard, Iman Shumpert
Kemba Walker [9] Good pick!
Tobias Harris [19] before: Marshon Brooks
Kyle Singler [33] before: Chandler Parsons,
Jeremy Tyler [39] before: Andrew Goudelock, Isaiah Thomas
 
Kobe needs 38 to win the scoring title. Lakers play the Kings tomorrow in the regular season finale. Would be great if he could do it.
 
why would it be 'great'?

And of course he is going to do it....LA will be resting all starters bar Kobe. He'll shoot and shoot until he gets it.
 
Don't think Kobe will get the scoring title, he's capable of getting 38 but the Kings seem to hate the Lakers and they'll play with intensity to make sure he doesn't get the required points.

It would be a fitting tribute from Charlotte if they lost their final game of the season: MJ made 23 famous and now the Bobcats can do the same by ending on a 23 game losing streak. Seriously, why the feck are they allowed to play in the NBA?

I did not realise that they have a lottery in the NBA to choose who gets the first draft pick - I always assumed it was the same as the NFL where the worst team gets the first pick and then the next worst and so on. Do people think the lottery system is a good idea? From some articles I've read, some are suggesting it may be fixed, in which case I hope that Davis kid doesn't go to Charlotte or Cleveland or any other shithole.
 
It'd be great because I am a Lakers fan. Kobe has decided to sit out the last game thus conceding the title to Durant.
 
The Bobcat's best player is Gerald Henderson, who is good but would be at best a 6th man on any other team. That's how bad they are.
 
Some nice first round matchups coming up. The best one being the Miami Heat against the New York Knicks. Lots of stars on show for that one and if the Knicks can stay healthy and even get Lin back for a few games then they might have a chance at causing a shock upset.

OKC vs. Dallas is another intriguing matchup. The defending champs face an OKC team that are favorites to reach the final and possibly win a title with Kevin Durant leading the way. Durant has been one of the NBA's best players for a while now but the only thing that will catapult him to the top is if he wins a Championship. This year they are better equiped than ever to do that.
 
Tough matchup for the Heat, considering they are the 2nd seed, but I still don't think the Knicks have what it takes to beat the Heat..

OKC should sweep Dallas without any problems.
 
Danny1982 said:
Tough matchup for the Heat, considering they are the 2nd seed, but I still don't think the Knicks have what it takes to beat the Heat..

OKC should sweep Dallas without any problems.
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Yea Dallas really isn't the same team as last year. Losing Tyson Chandler to the Knicks really hurt them. He was their defensive lynchpin and without him they are alot more vulnerable in the paint. I expect Durant to put on a clinic against them. They just don't have anybody to matchup against him and Dirk Nowitzki isn't exactly known for his defence.
 
Sir Matt said:
The Bobcat's best player is Gerald Henderson, who is good but would be at best a 6th man on any other team. That's how bad they are.
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Ironic considering their owner is regarded as the best player of all time. Just goes to show you that being a great player doesn't guarantee you become a great coach or even a good owner. Playing the game at a high level doesn't translate into being able to manage at a high level.
 
gooDevil said:
I thought I'd make a list of how badly Charotte has drafted in their history. I forget when Jordan stopped making the picks, my guess would be 2010. To their credit that was a weak draft and they did well to get out of it and pick up Ty Lawson in the process. I rate Kemba Walker quite highly, he should be their PG for many years, once he beats out DJ Augustin, who to be fair is a pretty good player and either their best or 2nd best pick depending on how you see Walker.

Hard to say yet about Biyombo but I'm a skeptic. The list shows the players drafted behind each of Charlotte's pick that imo would have been better choices. Of course everyone wishes they had picked Danny Granger, so I'm not trying to make them look unfairly stupid. But on the whole they've missed a whole lot of players and have captured their first gem this year, imo.


Charlotte Bobcats Drafts

2004:
Emeka Okafor [2] drafted before: Igoudala, Josh Smith, Al Jefferson, Luol Deng, Kris Humphries, Jameer Nelson, Kevin Martin, Anderson Varejao
Bernard Robinson [46]

2005:
Raymond Felton [5] before: Andrew Bynum
Sean May [13] before: Danny Granger, David Lee, Ersan Illyasova, Marcin Gortat

2006:
Adam Morrison [3] before: Brandon Roy, Rudy Gay, Rajon Rondo, Kyle Lowry
Ryan Hollins [50]

2007:
Brandan Wright [8] before: Spencer Hawes, Thaddeus Young, Rodney Stuckey, Marco Belinelli
Jared Dudley [22] before: Wilson Chandler, Aaron Brooks, Aaron Afflalo, Tiago Splitter, Carl Landry, Glen Davis, Marc Gasol, Ramon Sessions

2008:
D. J. Augustin [8] before: Brook Lopez, Jason Thompson, Roy Hibbert.
Alexis Ajinca [20] before: Ryan Anderson, Serge Ibaka, Nicolas Batum, George Hill, Luc Mbah a Moute
Kyle Weaver [38] before: Goran Dragic, Bill Walker

2009:
Gerald Henderson [12] before: Tyler Hansbrough, James Johnson, Ty Lawson, Taj Gibson, DeJuan Blair
Derrick Brown [40] before: Jodie Meeks, Marcus Thornton, Danny Green
Robert Vaden [54]

2010:
No Pick [traded #16 effectively for Ty Lawson, traded #46 in 5 player deal]

2011:
Bisback Biyombo [7] before: Klay Thompson, Markieff Morris, Marcus Morris, Kawhi Leonard, Iman Shumpert
Kemba Walker [9] Good pick!
Tobias Harris [19] before: Marshon Brooks
Kyle Singler [33] before: Chandler Parsons,
Jeremy Tyler [39] before: Andrew Goudelock, Isaiah Thomas
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I'd say the worst one in that lot is Adam Morrison. TBF, they've been a part of some really weak drafts, and drafts are also easy in hindsight. For instance, most people questioned Schump, had little idea about Parsons and thomas etc..

I question their basketball decisions more than anything. That awful Gerald Wallace trade, then the awful Maggette pick up and contract, Diop's contract, Matt Carroll, tyrus thomas?? did you know they have about 28 mil committed to the four guys above? ridiculous!

I actually don't mind Biyombo.. i think he's going to be ok.
 
whatagoodname said:
I'd say the worst one in that lot is Adam Morrison. TBF, they've been a part of some really weak drafts, and drafts are also easy in hindsight. For instance, most people questioned Schump, had little idea about Parsons and thomas etc..

I question their basketball decisions more than anything. That awful Gerald Wallace trade, then the awful Maggette pick up and contract, Diop's contract, Matt Carroll, tyrus thomas?? did you know they have about 28 mil committed to the four guys above? ridiculous!

I actually don't mind Biyombo.. i think he's going to be ok.
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I agree Biyombo is okay, but he's an offensive liability on a team full of them, so it was a bit strange to me. If they're lucky enough to get the first pick and get Anthony Davis, Biyombo will either go to the bench or get traded. They also have Byron Mullens at center who, despite inconsistency, was one of the pleasant surprises of the season, posting quite a few double doubles.

Of course when you're the worst team in history there's probably not too much worry about what happens to your third string center.
 
Danny1982 said:
Tough matchup for the Heat, considering they are the 2nd seed, but I still don't think the Knicks have what it takes to beat the Heat..

OKC should sweep Dallas without any problems.
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At best we'll push the Heat to 6 games, and that's if Bosh continues his wretched form. If he gets in sync with the other 2, it'll most likely be a blowout.
 
gooDevil said:
I agree Biyombo is okay, but he's an offensive liability on a team full of them, so it was a bit strange to me. If they're lucky enough to get the first pick and get Anthony Davis, Biyombo will either go to the bench or get traded. They also have Byron Mullens at center who, despite inconsistency, was one of the pleasant surprises of the season, posting quite a few double doubles.

Of course when you're the worst team in history there's probably not too much worry about what happens to your third string center.
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Biyombo was probably the biggest risk in the whole of last years draft. Here was a guy who was unknown up until a couple of weeks before the draft. What he did have was a great game in the Nike Hoop Summit which is a game where the best High School Seniors from the US are selected to play against a group of promising players from around the world (also under 19 years of age).

Just so happened that Biyombo put on a really good showing and the scouts love to overhype/overrate guys who are athletic and big. However, these events are mostly devoid of any real strategy or organisation so its easier for certain types of players like Biyombo to excel in them.

No surprise that the bobcats drafted him despite this guy being a major project who needed a lot of work before he would come close to realising his potential. They were in dire need of more leadership and NBA ready players but instead MJ and co. went and drafted the one guy who wasn't ready for the NBA and may never be. Speaks volumes about the way that franchise is run.
 
gooDevil said:
Charlotte set the all time record this season for futility, with a .106 winning percentage, lowest ever.
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They are lucky that it comes with an asterix since this wasn't a full 82 game season. Shocking how bad they were this year though. They have lost 23 straight games after todays loss against New York. :eek:
 
DevilRed said:
Biyombo was probably the biggest risk in the whole of last years draft. Here was a guy who was unknown up until a couple of weeks before the draft. What he did have was a great game in the Nike Hoop Summit which is a game where the best High School Seniors from the US are selected to play against a group of promising players from around the world (also under 19 years of age).

Just so happened that Biyombo put on a really good showing and the scouts love to overhype/overrate guys who are athletic and big. However, these events are mostly devoid of any real strategy or organisation so its easier for certain types of players like Biyombo to excel in them.

No surprise that the bobcats drafted him despite this guy being a major project who needed a lot of work before he would come close to realising his potential. They were in dire need of more leadership and NBA ready players but instead MJ and co. went and drafted the one guy who wasn't ready for the NBA and may never be. Speaks volumes about the way that franchise is run.
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I agree completely, if you look across the league today it's full of amazing athletes that know very little about footwork and other subtleties of the game. Why block out for an easy rebound when you can have a jumping competition? Why have a pull up jumper when you can just jump into the defender and most likely draw a foul?

You'd think an NBA executive would realize that any All-Star like game where players aren't actual teammates and are thrown together without real tactics or defensive effort are a terrible way to judge talent.
 
DevilRed said:
They are lucky that it comes with an asterix since this wasn't a full 82 game season. Shocking how bad they were this year though. They have lost 23 straight games after todays loss against New York. :eek:
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Memphis is one of the best 2nd half teams, though, went from 10th in the division to the 4th seed, very impressive stuff, even better than Boston's run everyone was talking about.

And a Memphis win sets up a replay of last season's best series, Memphis v San Antonio, as long as SA goes through of course.
 
Just noticed the Bobcats draft above - yikes.

I love to redraft years later. The Mavs could easily have drafted Stockton and Malone. They took Stansbury in 1994 a pick before Stockton, and took Schrempf in 1985 five picks head of Malone. Malone had visited Dallas and wanted to go there - even bought land out near the city. In their defense, the Mavs had two quality PGs in Davis and Harper so Stockton wasn't a necessity (and no one predicted he'd be that good). However, the Malone miss is disgusting. They needed a PF but took Schrempf, good player but not the beast Malone was.

Perhaps drafting Stockton and Malone to join Blackmon, Aguire, and the other cast, plus adding Tarpley the following year - maybe the Mavs would have reigned surpreme in the late 80s and never gone into oblivion in the early 90s. Potential dynasty perhaps.
 
Derrick Rose has gone down with a knee injury, was treated on the court for 7 minutes and then taken to the hospital, sounds like he'll be out for at least this series. Chicago will probably still get by Philly without him, though they could well lose too, Phily have the 3rd best +/- in the East in the regular season, 4.2 per game better than their opponents. Only Chicago, Miami, San Antonio and OKC have a better one.

Honestly I think Philly are better than Boston and Atlanta.
 
Rose has been really unfortunate with injuries, I hope it's not a sign of things to come in future seasons.
 
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