Nba 2011-2012

Karl fecking Malone won MVP awards...if that fecker can win them, than Kevin Love definitely deserves to be considered a serious contender.

Plus you can only ignore this stats for so long...The West has a ton of good teams, .500 isn't as bad as it sounds.
 
ha_rooney said:
True but he's a beast and he'd definitely be in contention for MVP if he was on a better team. The MVP usually goes to the best player on the best team, I just think Love should be in the discussion considering what he has done this season.
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Nash should be in contention if it was truly just about the most valuable player.

The Phoenix Suns is a lottery team without him, but they're somehow still above 0.500 this season and making a late attempt to make the playoffs. And this is the West we're talking about, Phoenix would probably be a bottom 4 playoff team if they're in the East.
 
Coach: Dwight Howard wants me out
Updated: April 5, 2012, 1:16 PM ET
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Orlando Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said Thursday morning that center Dwight Howard has asked the team's management to fire him.

"I know he has," Van Gundy told reporters after the team's shootaround, according to the Orlando Sentinel. "That's just the way it is. Again, I've been dealing with that all year. It's not anything real bothersome. You go out and do your job."

Van Gundy said he was told "it was true by people in our management right from the top."

The Magic host the New York Knicks in Orlando on Thursday night.

Howard had denied a report that he had asked for Van Gundy's dismissal and even hugged Van Gundy on Thursday, not realizing that the coach had told the media that the superstar center wanted him fired.

On Wednesday, Howard sent a text to ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard, saying he has not spoken with Magic officials about Van Gundy's job status.

"I haven't said nothing to anybody,'' Howard said in a text message. "My main focus is that me and Stan and the team are on the same page for the playoffs. Whatever happens at the end of the season is up to the management.''

An Orlando television station, WKMG-TV, reported Wednesday morning that Howard has told Magic owners that he wants a change in the coaching staff. ESPN.com reported before last month's trade deadline that Orlando's front office had given Howard the power to determine the fates of general manager Otis Smith and Van Gundy at the end of the season if he agreed not to opt out of his contract.

Howard decided against opting out and becoming a free agent after this season but has said he does not want the responsibility of determining the futures of Smith and Van Gundy.

On Wednesday, Howard said his only concern is winning a ring this season with this coaching staff.

"Im focused on winning the championship,'' Howard said in a text. "The only thing that matters is right now. Stan is the coach and I'm riding with him.''
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STFU Dwight...really getting sick of this prick. I want to build my brand - you don't have a brand you imbecile.
 
They should have dealt Howard, this kind of nonsense is going to follow the Magic around for the next 12 months until Howard finally gets traded or leaves as a free agent.
 
And of course he's a brand....he has his own trainers, headphones with skull candy, is the Magics marquee shirt seller....I now notice JD/JJB/Footlocker all have NBA shirts in them now, but only have the "brand" players on them etc. These huge sports star generate more money on their than 95% of businesses.

Still annoying though...
 
Zen said:
And of course he's a brand....he has his own trainers, headphones with skull candy, is the Magics marquee shirt seller....I now notice JD/JJB/Footlocker all have NBA shirts in them now, but only have the "brand" players on them etc. These huge sports star generate more money on their than 95% of businesses.

Still annoying though...
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I know he's a brand, I just happen to think he is a SHIT brand.
 
ha_rooney said:
They should have dealt Howard, this kind of nonsense is going to follow the Magic around for the next 12 months until Howard finally gets traded or leaves as a free agent.
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Yup, big error. They could have improved the balance of their team and got rid of a want away player.
 
The magic have made one disastrous move after the next in free agency. The only things they've gotten right were using a late draft pick on Janeer Nelson and Ryan Anderson. But on a top team those guys are probably bench players or 4th of 5th options.

I mean, they wasted a maximum contract on Ray Lewis, then traded him for Gilbert Freaking Arenas, then tried to out stupid both of them by taking a 45 year old Vince Carter as their go to guy. Jason Richardson was one of the better scorers last season for the suns, this year he's been terrible for the Magic.

They've spent a ton of money to hold onto Gortat only to let him go right before he breaks through, god knows where the Suns would be without that pooch screw. They took back a past it Turkoglu, and went ahead and got rid of Brandon Bass for a specialist player in Glen Davis whose specialties they don't need.

Quentin Richardson can't play defense and had one good year for the Suns when all he had to do was hit wide open 3 passed perfectly by Steve Nash, been useless since. And Chris Duhon was able to make himself occasionally useful in other teams but in this one he's the invisible man.

What's amazing is that they still manage to be one of the better teams. I guess that's how good Dwight is.
 
Usually it's in the phrase, "You really screwed the pooch on that one." Probably revealing my 80's action movie heritage with that one, a bit dated!
 
Wade addressed the physicality following Wednesday’s game.

“We’re not fake tough guys, we’re not TV thugs. We go out and play basketball. When it’s time to get into the fight, we have a lot of guys who can get into it.”
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We're real thugs! Really, we are, you can tell because we're telling a bunch of crusty white sports media dorks about being thugs. Which is what thugs do.
 
Ohhhh yeah I've heard a dog being referred to as a pooch, pooch screw just sounds so different and slightly offensive, I like it!
 
gooDevil said:
We're real thugs! Really, we are, you can tell because we're telling a bunch of crusty white sports media dorks about being thugs. Which is what thugs do.
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:lol:

I think there are some legit thugs in NBA though, Gilbert Arenas brought a fecking gun to practice :lol:.
 
Oh, there definitely are. Sadly, there's about 10 times as many that think they are just because they're the biggest bastard nearly everywhere they go.
 
Neutral said:
Yeah, but I've met Arenas...he ain't no thug :nono:
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Him bringing a gun to work cost him, suprised so many teams were reluctant to pick him up but obviously that action has cost him. Picking himself up though it seems at the Grizzlies.
 
ArmchairCritic said:
Him bringing a gun to work cost him, suprised so many teams were reluctant to pick him up but obviously that action has cost him. Picking himself up though it seems at the Grizzlies.
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Nah...his knee and huge contract cost him. Obviously he no longer had a future with the Wizards, but if he was fully fit, he would have been very much in demand all over the league. Of course the contract is no longer an issue...but that still leaves him with only one knee. I saw a fit Arenas live many times, and he was incredible. Could score for fun...but the knee injury took away his burst/explosiveness and pop with the jump shot.

He is barely a quarter of the player he used to be :(
 
Neutral said:
Nah...his knee and huge contract cost him. Obviously he no longer had a future with the Wizards, but if he was fully fit, he would have been very much in demand all over the league. Of course the contract is no longer an issue...but that still leaves him with only one knee. I saw a fit Arenas live many times, and he was incredible. Could score for fun...but the knee injury took away his burst/explosiveness and pop with the jump shot.

He is barely a quarter of the player he used to be :(
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Still more than useful off the bench IMO.
 
Kobe did not play yesterday and the result was a big loss to the Suns. Our bench totalled 10pts, the Suns managed 58pts from their reserves. Somewhat concerning is the fact we've been giving away a lot of points recently, the good D we played early in the season appears to have disappeared.
 
Melo drops 43 to beat the Bulls in OT. Finally found some form in recent games
 
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Yeah, but this is the first time the Knicks have won in this run of big games for Melo.

The Mavs have decided to list Lamar Odom as inactive for the rest of the season.

"The Mavericks and I have mutually agreed that it's in the best interest of both parties for me to step away from the team," Odom said in a statement to ESPN.com. "I'm sorry that things didn't work out better for both of us, but I wish the Mavs' organization, my teammates and Dallas fans nothing but continued success in the defense of their championship."

One source close to the 32-year-old told ESPN.com that the decision sets Odom up to "clear his head and start getting ready for next season".
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They're not your teammates anymore Lamar, you're abandoning them. To get your mind right for next season. Before the season is over.

This guy is going off the rails on the crazy train. Run away, NBA teams!!!
 
gooDevil said:
Yeah, but this is the first time the Knicks have won in this run of big games for Melo.

The Mavs have decided to list Lamar Odom as inactive for the rest of the season.



They're not your teammates anymore Lamar, you're abandoning them. To get your mind right for next season. Before the season is over.

This guy is going off the rails on the crazy train. Run away, NBA teams!!!
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What's the bet he ends up at the clips?

How about those celts? I really really like Bradley.. and the STIEM TRAIN
 
Celtics have been on fire since the All-Star break, although I don't think they can get past Chicago and/or Miami in a 7 game series to get to the finals.

The Odom situation is sad, he's a talented player but clearly he can't handle his emotions and as such his game has deteriorated to the extent it was pointless playing him since he wants to be in LA. The Lakers could've used his scoring talents off the bench and if we're not going to make any big trade moves this off-season, I'd like to see him back with the Lakers. If not, the Clippers will snap him up.
 
ha_rooney said:
Kobe did not play yesterday and the result was a big loss to the Suns. Our bench totalled 10pts, the Suns managed 58pts from their reserves. Somewhat concerning is the fact we've been giving away a lot of points recently, the good D we played early in the season appears to have disappeared.
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It's like we swapped good defense for offense. Hopefully it all comes together in the playoffs with a fit and rested Kobe.
 
mavs fire odom and fight for their playoff lives beginning tonight. maybe they can get their shit together and make a respectable playoff run...probably not.
 
Shane is probably my favorite player of all time. I just wish he didn't play for the Heat. :(

Deng and Boozer are playing decently tonight though.
 
I noticed Battier doing that. I read an ESPN article on him, he's like a *********** player or something, very analytical with regards to his play. I like that.

The Bulls' depth is phenominal. I'm still not convinced by them, they dominated the Heat last season in the regular schedule, yet got blasted in the playoffs. Hamilton is getting to his best, but I'm not sure if much has changed. We'll see.
 
And Odom can get fecked, he's a disgrace to sports. He only needs to look at Fish for an example how to conduct yourself. It's probably that bitch reality show he's on.
 
He's very smart and should probably be in charge of the league rather than David Stern. :lol:

Battier has a lot of personality and isn't a primadonna. He reminds me of Scholes in terms of personality. He goes in, does his work, and then goes home. Battier probably studies the game more though. The way he studies players before games is insane.

At one point, he was thinking about politics or law school after the NBA. I'd vote for him.
 
^^He can defend as well as anyone, but he went to Duke so I hate him.

Dwayne Wade just tied Alonzo Mourning for most games played for the Heat at 592. And I thought huh, Mourning was only with the Heat for like 5 or 6 season?

Then I looked at Wade's draft year: 2003. He's a 9 year veteran! Jeez, time flies. There are quite a few guys in the hall of fame that didn't get 9 seasons due to injury but are considered greats, and of course the average NBA player won't last more than 3 years.

I'm quite pleased I was right that he'd be a top player, I made sure to sing his praise loudly because I knew it wouldn't be long! Still pissed off that the Lakers didn't get him in the Shaq trade, ridiculous really.
 
adexkola said:
I noticed Battier doing that. I read an ESPN article on him, he's like a *********** player or something, very analytical with regards to his play. I like that.

The Bulls' depth is phenominal. I'm still not convinced by them, they dominated the Heat last season in the regular schedule, yet got blasted in the playoffs. Hamilton is getting to his best, but I'm not sure if much has changed. We'll see.
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Taj Gibson is an NBA starter in 70 percent of NBA teams. I love that guy... He's going to get paid big time.

Really excited about the tanking that i eluded to above... David Lee is now listed day to day..

Side note, Bobcats are on track for the worst ever winning percentage in NBA history.. well done MJ.
 
Miami with a tough win in New Jersey. Bron-Bron came to play in the fourth quarter, I never thought I'd say that! It must be the new shoes with all the Premier league titles underneath them.

Edit: LeBron called Cole over so he could meet Jay-Z :lol:
 
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