Nathaniel Clyne | Signed for Liverpool

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Having seen the saints a fair bit this season I think he will pleasantly surprise us if we got him. He is better than Valencia going forwards from what I have seen and is very athletic. He has some good core attributes which with great coaching he can turn into top class attributes.

Decent crosser can get better but the basics are there, he can whip a ball.. just needs to be more consistent.

Can beat players for fun, not quite Rafael or Valencia on the run but he's a mixture of both and dangerous from a static start whereas Valencia always passes back once he has no room to run in a straight line. His close control in tight spaces is solid, more technical than your average right back.

Has a cracking shot on him and this can definitely be moulded into a weapon under an attacking coach. His passing is also superior to Valencia, he can link up play effortlessly and doesn't pass back brainlessly.. he'll keep the game moving forwards.

Very very quick and bundles of energy. Doesn't seem the type who will be fragile, similar to Valencia in that sense.

Defensively he is solid 1 v 1 but positionally he's not awful but needs polishing. He's not brainless just have seen him get caught out while further up.the field. Likes a tackle so he isn't a total wing back type of full back.. he is fundamentally a balanced player and is very mouldable.
 
Raees said:
Having seen the saints a fair bit this season I think he will pleasantly surprise us if we got him. He is better than Valencia going forwards from what I have seen and is very athletic. He has some good core attributes which with great coaching he can turn into top class attributes.

Decent crosser can get better but the basics are there, he can whip a ball.. just needs to be more consistent.

Can beat players for fun, not quite Rafael or Valencia on the run but he's a mixture of both and dangerous from a static start whereas Valencia always passes back once he has no room to run in a straight line. His close control in tight spaces is solid, more technical than your average right back.

Has a cracking shot on him and this can definitely be moulded into a weapon under an attacking coach. His passing is also superior to Valencia, he can link up play effortlessly and doesn't pass back brainlessly.. he'll keep the game moving forwards.

Very very quick and bundles of energy. Doesn't seem the type who will be fragile, similar to Valencia in that sense.

Defensively he is solid 1 v 1 but positionally he's not awful but needs polishing. He's not brainless just have seen him get caught out while further up.the field. Likes a tackle so he isn't a total wing back type of full back.. he is fundamentally a balanced player and is very mouldable.
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So he's the English Dani Alves.
 
Attila said:
People already mentioned that Darmian guy on the last page. Clyne looks pretty average to me, disapointing signing if true. Probably a better option than valencia but if that's the criteria...
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So you've never watched Darmian play before and you deem him a better candidate because people said so...it makes perfect sense.

BringNaniBack said:
Shaw?
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Shaw was rightly rated. He was the best and most consistent LB in the league last season. He didn't make the PFA team of the year for nothing
 
Devil may care said:
I don't think he's all that good defensively, at least not positionally, he often gets caught out and has to hope his pace can bail him out. I also think given the fact we use inverted wingers we need a fullback that can contribute in attack, players like Alves and Evra in their prime, Clyne lacks the control when running with the ball in this aspect IMO.
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I slightly agree on his positioning but he has a lot less brain farts in him than Valencia. Rafael was the same for us but his attack play seemed to make up for his lapses whilst defending. I would rather have a better defender and worse attacker. Evra signed for us at similar age and his defending improved for sure so Clyne has time to improve the attacking aspects of his game also. I think if we get a solid midfield set up and with the addition of Depay and maybe a resurgence in Di Maria I don't think we will need to rely on our full backs attacking as much.
 
Tbf he's probably quite a low risk signing at least. A solid all rounder who can probably be expected to improve a bit more once he arrives.
 
Honestly don't think we've had a proper right back since Gary Neville. Nobody consistent, positionally great and such a threat with their crosses. The only thing Clyne has over him is speed.

Honestly think we should go all out for Carvajal now Madrid have Danilo.
 
Loublaze said:
So you've never watched Darmian play before and you deem him a better candidate because people said so...it makes perfect sense.

Shaw was rightly rated. He was the best and most consistent LB in the league last season. He didn't make the PFA team of the year for nothing
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I've never even heard of Darmian before in all honesty, i'm curious how so people on here manage to watch Torino games to scout the guy ?
 
The misery in this thread is embarrassing. Last season everyone wanted rid of Young and Fellaini, look how they've improved this season. If Clyne is going to give his all for the shirt and improves next season then I'm all for it.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
Honestly don't think we've had a proper right back since Gary Neville. Nobody consistent, positionally great and such a threat with their crosses.
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We have only had one RB since Gary Neville and that's Rafael. Valencia is a Right Midfielder.
 
JR10 said:
We have only had one RB since Gary Neville and that's Rafael. Valencia is a Right Midfielder.
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You're forgetting Jones as RB, Smalling as RB.

My point being we've wasted alot of time since the Gary Neville era and have never gone so far as to sign a replacement and if we were to get one it would have to be a quality one rather than a decent player like Clyne/Valencia as we've tried that already and it just patches temporary holes.

We need to go all out.
 
BennyBlanco said:
I've never even heard of Darmian before in all honesty, i'm curious how so people on here manage to watch Torino games to scout the guy ?
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They don't...they play Football manager and watch youtube clips. I only heard about him a few months ago. His videos look good but you can't deem a player suitable for United based on those alone. I remember Liverpool fans raving over their former right back Andrea Dossena when he signed. What a flop he was.
 
BennyBlanco said:
Doesnt seem to have many appearances down for Italy either though?
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Those appearances were at the World Cup though so I'd guess they stick out in the mind. Apparently he was their national team player of the year too?
 
Great athlete, average footballer.

If thats the best we can find for £18 million, then our scouting system is shocking.
 
Ekeke said:
Neither is Ashley Young. And if we want to play Depay + Mata or Di Maria, Young isnt going to be in the lineup so right back seems logical
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Young is nowhere near as comfortable on the right, I like Young but this square pegs in round holes nonsense has to stop.
 
Hellboy said:
So he's the English Dani Alves.
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Clyne doesn't bomb on like Alves. Alves is a monster, Clyne likes both aspects but what you are buying here is potential.. similar to Depay, he's athletic young technical with a strong international future.. potentially high ceiling with good coaching. Solid mentality but he is potentially going to improve a lot.
 
pocco said:
Darmian isn't a sure thing like some make him out to be. He's good technically but he's not as athletic or strong as clyne, which, like it or not, is useful in the Premiership. Far more suited to Italian football or similar leagues.
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I think he is quite strong. Just because he isnt small and hasnt a low center of gravity like Clyne, doesnt mean he isnt athletic or strong. That he is technically and tactically far more superior than Clyne is another reason to buy him. Would work much better in our system.
 
Seems split on here, but I don't think we can do much better than him. A lot of shouts for Darmian, he looked good going forward against England in the WC but how often have others seen him? I have next to no knowledge of the guy, but from what I've heard, I don't think he's as highly rated as others are suggesting.

Just googled him, and didn't realise he was 25 either.
 
How the feck is Darmian so highly rated on here all of a sudden? I admit I don't watch the Seria A this year but I did last season and he was bang average whenever I saw him. He wasn't anything special for Italy either. Has he really improved that much this season?
 
Raees said:
Clyne doesn't bomb on like Alves. Alves is a monster, Clyne likes both aspects but what you are buying here is potential.. similar to Depay, he's athletic young technical with a strong international future.. potentially high ceiling with good coaching. Solid mentality but he is potentially going to improve a lot.
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Not sure how high his ceiling is given he's 24 and doesn't have the level of talent someone like Shaw does, for example.
 
Also, if we get Clyne, I doubt we'll go for Schniderlin as well, which is a massive shame.
 
Scarecrow said:
How the feck is Darmian so highly rated on here all of a sudden? I admit I don't watch the Seria A this year but I did last season and he was bang average whenever I saw him. He wasn't anything special for Italy either. Has he really improved that much this season?
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I only saw him during the world cup and he was excellent.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
You're forgetting Jones as RB, Smalling as RB.

My point being we've wasted alot of time since the Gary Neville era and have never gone so far as to sign a replacement and if we were to get one it would have to be a quality one rather than a decent player like Clyne/Valencia as we've tried that already and it just patches temporary holes.

We need to go all out.
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Ah, that is what you mean
 
I never have been as impressed with him as I was with Shaw last season. I would rather keep Rafael but, since it seems that his bags are packed Clyne looks like the best option out there. You are being hyperbolic saying the likes of Coleman or Darmian are significantly better.
 
ArmchairCritic said:
Young is nowhere near as comfortable on the right, I like Young but this square pegs in round holes nonsense has to stop.
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It doesnt matter. He doesnt get himself in a mess like Valencia does, thats the problem. He can contribute from the right and still be part of the team. Otherwise he wont be playing
 
Ekeke said:
It doesnt matter. He doesnt get himself in a mess like Valencia does, thats the problem. He can contribute from the right and still be part of the team. Otherwise he wont be playing
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Yeah, I'd rather have Young as a backup to be honest. Rafael would be my first choice but it is what it is.
 
sullydnl said:
Not sure how high his ceiling is given he's 24 and doesn't have the level of talent someone like Shaw does, for example.
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I'd say he's better than Shaw going forwards but is weaker defensively. Agree that Shaw has more talent but 24 is still young there's at least 8 years in him and guys like Alves didn't join Barca until they were similar age.

There won't be significantly better players than him available unless Carvajal is available.
 
MyOnlySolskjaer said:
Carvajal is the best option in terms of someone in the market due to the Danilo arrival.

Also, just imagine him linking up with fellow Spaniards Mata, Herrera on the right side.
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He's not leaving Real Madrid and he's not in the market. There's no speculation about him leaving at all. I saw one article from Metro of all places. Danilo is the one who's in for a tough time displacing Carvajal. I think Danilo is going to be used more as a RW. Bidding for Cavajal would be a waste of time like our ill fated bid for Fabregas unless we offer them/him stupid money and a high salary above reasonable market value. He's young, Spanish and has been playing for Real since he was 10! Don't forget Real Madrid had Marcelo and still signed Coentrão. So who would be next on your wishlist?
 
saivet said:
Is this just the England game though? I don't recall how he played against Uruguay and Costa Rica
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Maybe you are right. I know very little about the right backs eventually available.
 
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