Look at Clyne teasing us with the possibility of him not coming.
Nathaniel Clyne | Signed for Liverpool
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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I have to admit to not being arsed in the slightest about that interview.
Can't understand why so many people on here don't want him yet LVG seems to think he's good enough.
Because he's not a particularly exciting player. I think he'd be a solid and reliable player at United.
He's a smart boy, he's just covering his arse with his recent comments in case things dont go as planned. I fully expect to see him here next season.
AFAIK, I've not heard LvG mention him officially other than the Foundation day?
OK let's tie this one up next next.
Not sure why there is so much aversion towards signing Clyne.
He is Englands best right back by far and would give our team a lot more balance given Valencia is our current #1 right back.
He is Englands best right back by far and would give our team a lot more balance given Valencia is our current #1 right back.
He's not rated here. Surely there have to be better options.
Because he isn't a particularly outstanding player I guess? He's a good player who'd be a solid signing in one of our problem positions but I suppose that's not enough to get people massively excited.
Maybe. People are never going to be that excited about a full back.
He looks good to me though, and his goal vs Arsenal shows he is capable of the extraordinary.
Also, he was a Fergie target if memory serves.
There aren't sadly. Coleman hasn't been better this season or not as good as he was last season. Aurier has signed a permanent contract with PSG. Danilo is joining Madrid. Darmian and Fabinho might be the only decent options left.
Edit: Bayern are looking for a right-back as well.
Coleman over this lad.
Looked out of his depth against Italy.
Yes, we were interested when he was at Palace.
Aye, the lack of alternatives is the real issue. If our scouts can't find a hidden talent somewhere then getting Clyne in early and for as cheap as we can might be our best move.
Generally yeah but Coleman would be more expensive, is a few years older and isn't English. They're all factors we have to take into consideration I guess.
Sign him up! Will be cheapish with 1 year left on his contract, he is English and most importantly he is a big upgrade on Valencia.
Just realized he's about three years older than I thought. At 24 you won't expect him to improve that explosively on his current level. He's a good player but we certainly shouldn't go north of 15 million for him, and even that seems steep with one year left.
Being England's best RB when Kyle Walker and Glen Johnson are your competition is pretty much the definition of being king of the shit heap though.
If you look up the word average in the dictionary, there is a picture of Nathaniel Clyne.
Since when were there pictures in a dictionary?
Danny Mills used to be England's best right back.
How on earth is that a qualification?
He's clearly a level or two above Valencia, that doesnt mean he's good enough for a long career at a top club
Why would that be considered a black mark against him? Not many Irish lads grow up dreaming of playing for Real Madrid, I can assure you!
Don't ruin my beautifully worded analogy!
The English player quota.
I'd imagine an English player would be more valuable from a marketing point of view? Pretty sure they use that notion to get better contracts anyway.
Plus someone mentioned in another thread that Coleman wouldn't count as homegrown either?
I may be entirely wrong on both counts though and in no way stand over the points I've just made.
There isn't an English player quota. Only "homegrown" players and I'm fairly sure Coleman belongs to that category. Could be wrong though.
Coleman isn't homegrown but we have no issues with the homegrown quota anyway, we have loads. Coleman would also be just as big a marketing tool as Clyne, if not bigger as he'd be the first Irish player at a top club in quite a while.I'd imagine an English player would be more valuable from a marketing point of view? Pretty sure they use that notion to get better contracts anyway.
Plus someone mentioned in another thread that Coleman wouldn't count as homegrown either?
I may be entirely wrong on both counts though and in no way stand over the points I've just made.
He doesn't, he only went over at 20/21. As I said above though we don't need to worry about the homegrown quota.
Clyne is a good player, he might even be better than Valencia. But I just can't see him having that extra bit of class we need. If he had been 21 - sure fine. But the fact is, he is 25 years old - and probably won't develop that much.
So for me - it's not that I don't want us to sign Clyne. It's just that I am convinced there are 5-6-7 players in Europé which are better.
So for me - it's not that I don't want us to sign Clyne. It's just that I am convinced there are 5-6-7 players in Europé which are better.
Oh right. Always thought he made the move younger than that.
In fairness, I think there seems to be a lack of top class right backs these days. I remember a few years ago when the same was being said of left backs. Carvajal would be ideal, and now Real have signed Danilo, could possibly happen. Darmian is another who's regularly mentioned but I've only seen him play twice. Coleman would be a great weapon to have down the right but depends if Everton want to play ball. Dani Alves would be a good addition on a free but he'd probably just be a stop gap for a few years.
I think Clyne for around £15 million isn't bad business in light of the above.
Yeah, I don't think he's anything special, but there just aren't many top right backs around. Danilo went to Madrid, and he has the potential to be a top player, and they have Carvajal who is also very good with plenty of potential. Rafael has been hampered by injuries but at his best he'd be brilliant for us, a shame his constant injuries have killed his chances though. Other then those, there aren't many promising or top right backs around really. Darmian has been rumoured but as far as I know, he's solid like Clyne but nothing special. Same with De Sciglio. Clyne has the bonus of being homegrown, and is good going forward and really quick, so who knows, if Van Gaal can develop him to be a better all around full back he could be a very good signing. He's made Valencia perform pretty well all season there so who knows. We definitely need one, and he has a pretty good injury record as far as I know, so I'm all for it.
I'd take him over Coleman easily. Coleman's had a poor season and Everton would still rip us off. Plus I don't know why Coleman's rated so highly here, considering the amount of stick Baines gets who is a far better full back.
I'd rather overpay 5m and get Clyne for 15m rather than overpay 15m to sign Coleman for 30m.
I'd rather overpay 5m and get Clyne for 15m rather than overpay 15m to sign Coleman for 30m.
That was only because the others were injured
Or do you think Mills was better than G Neville in his prime?
When judging the merits of signing him, people need to bare in mind:
- Last year of his contract so cheaper than, say, Coleman would be up to double the price and a prolonged negotiation.
- The above is particularly important as we have several other positions we need to fill with top quality and everyone has a budget, even if ours is likely to be large this summer.
- He's young and English. Born and bred into the PL.
- We have no right fullback. Rafael is a crock.
- Limited RB options out there
It is a no brainer. We don't need a world beater of a rightback but we absolutely do need a worldbeater in midfield, centre defence and probably upfront too
- Last year of his contract so cheaper than, say, Coleman would be up to double the price and a prolonged negotiation.
- The above is particularly important as we have several other positions we need to fill with top quality and everyone has a budget, even if ours is likely to be large this summer.
- He's young and English. Born and bred into the PL.
- We have no right fullback. Rafael is a crock.
- Limited RB options out there
It is a no brainer. We don't need a world beater of a rightback but we absolutely do need a worldbeater in midfield, centre defence and probably upfront too
we have too many squad players we should only sign players who are better than ours or young potential great players.. Clyne is on level with Gibbs/Clichy but younger, slight upgrade on Valencia, still believe on Rafael but if anyone comes it from premier league it should be Coleman..
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