Nathaniel Clyne | Signed for Liverpool
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Let's face it, until about 5 weeks ago Valencia was widely derided on here as being a bit bobbins.
Clyne may not be a world beater yet but he's at least an actual right back and should be looked at if we can't get a top tier full back. He isn't going to break the bank and his value isn't going to plummet with him being young and English.
Buy him, see if he makes the grade. If not, ship off to Spurs/Liverpool in a couple of years time and get someone else.
Clyne may not be a world beater yet but he's at least an actual right back and should be looked at if we can't get a top tier full back. He isn't going to break the bank and his value isn't going to plummet with him being young and English.
Buy him, see if he makes the grade. If not, ship off to Spurs/Liverpool in a couple of years time and get someone else.
I really don't see Clyne as a massive upgrade, or an upgrade of any kind, on Rafael.
They automatically link him to United after one of his recent interviews where he stated that he wants to play in Champions League next season. He's off, that's for sure. With only one year left on contract Southampton won't keep him and with Koeman as a manager could be some possibility.
I thought he's younger though... Already 24. I wonder what Gary Neville thinks about this lad. Can he represent United on the highest level ?
Still it sounds like a reasonable plan B but only if we'll keep Rafael.
I thought he's younger though... Already 24. I wonder what Gary Neville thinks about this lad. Can he represent United on the highest level ?
Still it sounds like a reasonable plan B but only if we'll keep Rafael.
Clyne is a good signing in my opinion. He will have to fight it out with Valencia who has been great at RB this season so if we do sign him he can't expect to just walk right into the starting 11.
Is David McDonnell reliable?
Is David McDonnell reliable?
Ship has sailed on that one. It is obvious that Van Gaal does not rate Rafael.
You can imagine how people will think about Clyne this time next year if we do sign him.They already wrote off a younger and more promising on Luke Shaw.Not to mention Philip Anthony Jones.
In this club you're either a world beater or a flop.
They paid 34 million for Coentrao. Coentrao ended up being Marcelo's backup. No guarantee that Carvajal is the backup next season.
It'll be hard to get excited about this signing if it comes to fruition, but at the end of the day, in LVG I trust.
Would potentially give us an all-English back 4 for years to come.
Like posted above, they bought Coentrao for big money as backup for Marcelo. Danilo is replacing Arbeloa, not Carvajal. He's still got a 4 year contract so unless we're willing to pay 50m for a rightback (Real Madrid have no intention to sell) he's an unrealistic target.
In that case it's probably Clyne then.
LVG already gave green light to Shaw. He'll probably accept Clyne as a traditional English addition to the squad like United did almost every summer window in the past.
Because of the price they just paid for Danilo, the star names/big buys always start at Real Madrid, it's why Isco is back to the bench as soon as both Bale and Rodriguez were fit. People bring up the Contreao thing all the time but the difference was he was signed under Mourinho who started out using him in midfield and who was trying to fight the Real model of how things were done. Ancelotti simply does as he's told like most Real Madrid managers. I don't see why we can't wait another year, Valencia is doing fine and Clyne isn't even an upgrade, the position is not one of desperation.
We've got bollock all chance of Carvajal...
I still think Rafael is better, but if LVG thinks otherwise, then I disagree with myself.
I still think Rafael is better, but if LVG thinks otherwise, then I disagree with myself.
What if Valencia gets injured?
It was the match vs Italy that changed the tone.
We've managed this year with Valencia, Rafael and McNair, I think we could do the same and trust to the fact Valencia is hardly ever injured rather than bringing in a mediocre player just because he's English.
I'm in this boat. He's better than Valencia and he's better than Clyne/Coleman as well. He's also been fit for months now so that excuse doesn't work anymore.
Rafael is more than definitely gone. Would you be fine with McNair as the backup RB?
Rafael at his best is so much better than him. 
I don't think the international break helped him
Rafael at his best is so much better than him.
Raf is one of my favorite right backs but he is injured too much and this is why LVG will be selling him in the summer.
For many times over the years when we needed a Rb most Raf was usually injured. We need a Rb we can depend on and he isn't it.
Meh.
Decent player but hardly an outstanding talent. Not so young that you'd expect massive improvement either.
I'd prefer Coleman from the PL alone. Surely there are better options out there in other leagues?
Decent player but hardly an outstanding talent. Not so young that you'd expect massive improvement either.
I'd prefer Coleman from the PL alone. Surely there are better options out there in other leagues?
You the person number 75674 to ask that question.
Shaw, Jones and Clyne would all have to improve an awful lot for that to work.
Feckin best one. I reckon after May this place will be absolutely buzzin under the weight of SSN's confirmed news.Must be a good question so.
Not only that, managers of other teams decided already to join United's transfer discussion like they're logged in caftards.
I can understand why Rafael isn't playing. I just don't understand why we'd replace him with Clyne. They have the same weakness IMO i.e. defensive discipline.
Maybe with Clyne being slightly younger and less injury prone Van Gaal feels he is more likely to be molded.
Maybe with Clyne being slightly younger and less injury prone Van Gaal feels he is more likely to be molded.
Would be a fine transfer for me. He is better than Valencia and Rafael, less injured, english, turned only 24 a week ago, can play on both sides and wouldn't cost that much. Yeah he is no world beater, but people expecting too much, there isn't a world class full back outthere for us. Coleman could be a option, but would probably cost twice as much and is not that great either. Darmian could be a option maybe, but I don't think he is on our radar and I am not sure he wants to leave Italy. Clyne and Valencia should be fine enough, big money will be spend on other positions.
Yeah this is a done deal I think, and I'm personally happy with the signing.
Coleman is the more exciting option, but Clyne is good at what he does too.
Coleman is the more exciting option, but Clyne is good at what he does too.
Bizarre signing if true. Surely Hernandez can do better than Southampton.
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/23983...t-chelsea-to-nathaniel-clyne-transfer-sources
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/23983...t-chelsea-to-nathaniel-clyne-transfer-sources
I'd be happy with him. Part of the best defence in the league and he's had an impressive season, I think some people have been swayed by his poor performances for England but he'd be a solid signing.
I would welcome him, from what I have seen he looks to be a great prospect but will be sad to see Rafael move on and would like a little more experience across the back four.
Hernandez part is surely a click bait. Most likely PSG or something like that would scoop him before Southampton even had something to say.
Haven't seen any of his England performances, it's his actual Southampton performances that leave me slightly underwhelmed. I just don't see anything particularly special about him. I wouldn't be totally sold on someone like Coleman either but at least with him you see a very obvious goal threat even when he isn't playing that well. Clyne is fine and he'd probably be grand here but it would be nice if we could do a bit better than that.
I wouldn't base too much of my opinion of Southampton's individual defenders on their defensive record either, they're a very well organised side rather than relying on individual quality. I mean I wouldn't be in a mad rush to sign the likes of Alderweireld, Fonte or Bertrand either.
Paper journos on Mutv tonight talking about this, reckon it's a done deal.
I haven't noticed anything about Clyne that suggests he is either good enough or would make a difference here.
Oh well, if we are signing him then at least we might have got the deal wrapped up early and with no fuss. Get RB solidified and move on to other positions I guess.
I would welcome him also but a 24 years old prospect should slowly sound more like a finished article... still not entirely sure how close he is to an instant impact type player.
On the other side of the coin, it's Van Gaal's decision. He probably already have a development plan whoever he'll sign.
I would be happy with this. Haven't seen much of Clyne recently but I think he's a good right back and should improve. He's been one of the best right backs in the league this season.
If there was an obvious better option available then fair enough but I don't see anyone out there who is realistic. I wonder how many people here have seen Darmian play a few times? He might be better than him but I can't say I've seen him play many times. If LVG and the scouts think Clyne is their guy then I'm happy with that.
Please stop mentioning Rafael he is clearly unfavoured and will probably be leaving in the summer so it's pointless mentioning this. I also do not want Alves so I would be happy with Clyne for now. He will be competing with Valencia next season by the look of it.
If there was an obvious better option available then fair enough but I don't see anyone out there who is realistic. I wonder how many people here have seen Darmian play a few times? He might be better than him but I can't say I've seen him play many times. If LVG and the scouts think Clyne is their guy then I'm happy with that.
Please stop mentioning Rafael he is clearly unfavoured and will probably be leaving in the summer so it's pointless mentioning this. I also do not want Alves so I would be happy with Clyne for now. He will be competing with Valencia next season by the look of it.
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