Of course they must be good enough.....but it's still nice to see we've english/british/irish players in our squad.
Who should be our RB for next season in your opinion???
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Who should be our RB for next season in your opinion???
We need only 8 though to be okay with the quota. On a team of 25 players which means that you can include young players (like Pereira, McNair) or an English third keeper. It is a nonsense constraint which can be easily bypassed if needed.
There is also the possibility of rejuvenating the team with good English players in the near future. But with players that are good enough to be here.
Id take him and with 12 months on his contract he should be available for a decent price, if the reports are true (probably not) about 3 deals almost being done id say this guy is certainly one of those.
It's still something to think about, which was my initial point. Plus the fact that I do genuinely believe Clyne to be potentially good enough on this season's evidence. His nationality being the added bonus.
If they are good enough sure, otherwise it will be nice for our rivals.
About our RB for next season, I really don't know. There aren't many great RB right there. I think that Danillo is better than Clyne, as it is Coleman. Personally, I would prefer Rafael over all of them, but with an another RB who can challenge for the first team spot and even keep Rafael out of team if possible.
On that aspect, keeping Rafael and signing Clyne (especially considering that both can also play as left back) would make sense. Replacing Rafael with Clyne won't make sense though. I think that Clyne is decent enough to be a good squad player, but not a starter.
We should have bought him from Palace, instead of the shithouse that was Zaha.
I don't see what he will give us that Valencia and Rafael don't already provide. There is only one Southampton player we should be going for and that's Schneiderlin.
Eh?
Clyne is a much better RB than both those players, he is better going forward and better defensively
Rafael is going im certain so valencia will become our back up RB
He's not any better than Rafael going forward and he makes more positional mistakes defensively than Valencia.
How'd he get on against Chelsea yesterday?
Looks to have the quickness, passing and tenacity to be an excellent backup for Rafael and along with Blind, to backup Shaw. I think he'd be a solid signing if we can get him this summer for a medium price. Our Azpilicueta.
Valencia had a good career here but at 29 with 2 years left on his contract, this summer will be our last chance to get a decent return for him. Basically every Prem team plays 2 wingers and guys like Matt Jarvis move for 7-10 million at the age of 26. Maybe we can get about that figure for Valencia, which would cover half of Clyne right there.
Valencia had a good career here but at 29 with 2 years left on his contract, this summer will be our last chance to get a decent return for him. Basically every Prem team plays 2 wingers and guys like Matt Jarvis move for 7-10 million at the age of 26. Maybe we can get about that figure for Valencia, which would cover half of Clyne right there.
Southampton have the best defence in the division and he's been one of their best players so he can't make that many.
They have two excellent CB's, I mean look at our goals against record, it's pretty good but would you say we had two quality CB's? Nope, it's because we have arguably the best keeper in the world bailing them out regularly.
I'm not an avid watcher of Southampton but I'm yet to see these apparent positional mistakes in the games I've seen him play.
People can argue the merits of Rafael all day but the sad reality is that he's going to get sold in the summer. His fitness record just isn't good enough and we need some much-needed stability at right back.
Clyne is very good, reasonably priced and has plenty to prove. He's exactly the kind of signing the club should be making and I can see why we retain reported interest.
Rafael's injury record does seem like it will cost him but I think posters here severely underrate Valencia simply because the attacking part of his game isn't great, yet with the way our CB's are caution from him makes sense to me.
At any rate I just don't see anything special about Clyne to bother buying him, not when the priority should be two new CB's and if we got Marquinhos he can also cover at RB.
He wouldn't move for anything less than £25m the same can be said about Coleman.. so who would suit us better? I'd say Coleman.
I'd say Coleman as well.
Right back and centre back is a priority. Valencia will remain as comfortable back up. He's on good money and the only way is down. You can be sure he's aware of that, too. I think we'll sign one of each, potentially an extra centre half if he decides to boot two of Smalling, Jones and Evans, which I would be tempted to see happen.
We have our priorities all over the park and I don't think it's a case of either/or.
He's got twelve months left on his contract. Southampton will be lucky to get fifteen.
I agree we have multiple priorities but I don't see RB as one of them, I just don't see the rush when there are only mediocre options available at this time. I also see 2 CB's as THE major priority this summer, it's by far the weakest part of our squad IMO.
Or they may consider taking rafael of our hands...
See, this is where I disagree. A fit, quality right back that can play every week is paramount, for me. If we can pick up Clyne for an acceptable fee then it's one less position to worry about. Centre half has been somewhat of a red herring, albeit I agree we need a fresh face or two.
Have to disagree admittedly I've only seen saints when they are on tv but every game I've seen he's played very well and made no telling mistakes,
Rafael is good going forward but not brilliant defensively
Valencia is a decent tackler but not good going forward
Clyne offers both of what they have but in one player plus he's still young and he has a decent injury record unlike Rafael who we just can't rely on anymore. As is said i'm certain raFael's days are numbered here so valencia will stay and he is a decent back up option.
I think Valencia fills that quota at least in regards to a comparison with Clyne, if there was a really top class RB option in the offing I'd probably agree though.
The way you describe Rafael is exactly how Clyne seems to me when I have watched Southampton, Rafael's days may be numbered but LvG has made a move this week to include and praise him, so who knows what is going on there, maybe LvG has left him in the reserves on a new training regime to try and improve his fitness, I mean Ander was left out of the side for a long period this season and has came back in a slightly altered player, it could be a similar situation.
If Clyne doesn't come cheap, we should go for Joel Ward. I just hope we don't (once again) pay huge money for average player.
Better than Rafa? Don't see it myself.
Not totally gone on him myself. Doesn't seem to have the same level of potential as someone like Shaw either.
Still, Rafael is as good as gone and if this guy is the best we can do....
Still, Rafael is as good as gone and if this guy is the best we can do....
I do not think he is better than Rafael. But, with Rafael out the door we will need a new RB and he is probably the best we can due this summer.
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Hmmmm....If we pay more than 10m for him, then I don't know what to say.
Not convinced at all
Should be going for Fabinho from Monaco he and Danilo were the obvious choices to go for imo if we wanted a RB. Clynes decent but nothing more than a squad player.
Ha this place makes me laugh if we were looking at Carrick today and he played for someone else everyone would be saying the same thing......
Not basing my view on one game, I have never seen an outstanding performance from him. Hoped against a terrible team tonight he might show up, he didn't. Feel he's benefited from a lot of hype as a result of Southampton's fairy story, a lot like Coleman last season.
Agree....
Would very happily take a shot at him. We won't find a better deal come along very often that is perfectly suited for us. We're looking for a RB and he doesn't have much left on his contract and is not "fully proven" while Chelsea has Azpi/Ivanovic, City has Zabaleta, Arsenal Debuchy/Chambers, Tottenham Walker and Liverpool doesn't use a right back at the moment.
I don't think either of the competitors would break the bank for him so it would be a very strong purchase. Clyne/Rafael would make for very solid right back options for the coming season and the chances of one of them making it long term is pretty good.
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As I said in another thread he's positionally suspect and not an upgrade on Raf or Valencia, the only reason to buy him is he's cheap and English.
Erm he won't be cheap though.
£15M is cheap in today's market, if they try to charge more than that with 1 year left on his contract then they'll lose him on a free next summer.
Yup. And who else would go for him? "Chelsea has Azpi/Ivanovic, City has Zabaleta, Arsenal Debuchy/Chambers, Tottenham Walker and Liverpool doesn't use a right back at the moment. "
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