After watching Sami Ameobi cause him so many problems for 20 minutes I don't know if he's any better defensively than what we already have.
Nathaniel Clyne | Signed for Liverpool
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Clyne's awareness is incredible and his crossing very impressive. Coleman's awareness is less good (not a specific criticism because Clyne's is great) and he's a pretty average crosser; he scores goals though, so if anything he's the overrated one because he gets on the scoresheet more.
Clyne's a better player than Shaw, but both are fantastically defensively aware and rightfully praised.
Clyne's a good player and I'd be very surprised if he didn't end up going to a top club but "incredible" awareness? I want whatever you're smoking.
I was surprised by that too. He made Sami Ameboi look like a 25yr old Ryan Giggs. Sami Ameobi!! He was beating him with ease. I don't know if Clyne was cautious to give away any set pieces out wide, but he wasn't even attempting to put challenges in. Ameobi's comedy slow-motion step overs were selling him every time.
He's great coming forwards though. Always looks a threat on the overlap and has a great cross on him, but defensively he looks flimsy. I'd rather have Tony Valencia, from a defensive point of view.
For a full back might I add (probably should leave incredible to guys like Ferdinand and Varane). Zabaleta and Ivanovic better going forward, but lose concentration and become more rash at the back. Clyne is like a focused crab always looking to block out space.
Modern full backs who can't defend very well vol. XXX
He's not better than Rafael defensively.
He's very calm, no fart-brain crap like Rafael.
I just saw him out on the town back in Southampton. Quick flight? He's obviously got a drinking problem to be straight out. Steer clear.
When was Rafa's last brain fart?
Nat Clyne's last brain fart was more recent. Letting Sami Ameobi get by him, more than once.
Fart brain?
Barney, stop posting sensible things about United players! Blasphemy!'Awareness'
FFS.
The rules state i have to criticise the post, not the poster.
That post is a f*cking plank
How would you define "awareness"?
I'd describe it as being aware to danger, or is that too direct a definition?
Times a player got beaten down their wing or gave a free kick away (equally as dangerous when you're a full back).
Clyne 28%
Clichy 33%
Sagna 35%
Shaw 36%
Azpilicueta 37%
Ivanovic 38%
Filipe 41%
Rafael 42%
Zabaleta 44%
Kolarov 68%
So yes, I'd say he has incredible awareness.
I wouldnt define 'awareness'.
i wouldnt attempt to use it to define how good a player is on an internet forum. I'd sound stupid
Hahahaha!
So according to Mirror he is stalling on new contract and LvG wants him as soon as the window re-opens. Could be a Shaw type of signing
In my opinion signing him and Depay would be such a good step from LvG to the right direction. I think Clyne will be a very good player and he's probably willing to leave Southampton for the sake of his career.
In my opinion signing him and Depay would be such a good step from LvG to the right direction. I think Clyne will be a very good player and he's probably willing to leave Southampton for the sake of his career.
How on earth would he be a Shaw type of signing?
Deal lined up pretty early. From the same club too.
With Shaw we acted quickly without saga and Woodward did what was required. I think Clyne could be similarly easy to sign if the rumours about LvG being admirer of him are true.
So ignoring the part where he's a teenage prodigy, arguably the best of his age group. And I dont think it was that easy, else we wouldn't have had to pay so much
I'm not convinced he's worth the money he'd cost (United + English tax)
May be tough to sign him from Koeman, since him and LVG have a poor relationship.
First off, Luke Shaw. Second, Southampton aren't a club that earn enough revenue that they could allow him to leave on a free and give up a £25m fee.
Was Koeman even in charge for Shaw?
Fair enough, I still think it could be an issue but 25 million is not the kind of money I want to spend on a player who's not much better than what we have.
There aren't many full backs better than Rafael. The ones that are will be unattainable. The ones on a similar level will cost you an arm and a leg. Rafael is too injury prone and seemingly Van Gaal doesn't rate him so you have to spend on one.
Arias from PSV (?) would be a cheaper option and he's quality, imo.
Pretty much.
Not as good as Rafael, is only a year younger and was being kept on the bench by an 18 year old not too long ago.
In response to this, last season Clyne was the starter until he picked up a hamstring injury. Chambers came in during the absence and took over though Clyne still got a lot of minutes towards the end of the season when fit again
More difficult to beat down that wing than Shaw is down the left. There isn't a right back in the Premier League more difficult to beat down that wing this season. Plus Pochettino's always giving young players extended runs in the team (i.e. Chambers).
I'd take Clyne but would have reservations about paying any more than £15m for him.
It'd be good to have more English players in the side.
It'd be good to have more English players in the side.
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