Well making bets is against the terms and conditions of this site so if you can head for the exit and take at least 50% of your scouse mates with you that would be great
Naby Keita
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Well making bets is against the terms and conditions of this site so if you can head for the exit and take at least 50% of your scouse mates with you that would be great
You made it sound like he retrieved it from a broken hard drive at a garbage dump.
It was just in the previous page!
You made it sound like he retrieved it from a broken hard drive at a garbage dump.
It was just in the previous page!
You really couldn't be more annoying and full of yourself if you tried to.Well making bets is against the terms and conditions of this site so if you can head for the exit and take at least 50% of your scouse mates with you that would be great
And you followed it up by insulting another member?
Get a big truck and cut him off in traffic.
Hopefully he can use the truck to take Naby Keita to his next club which they’ll all be wanting come the end of the season. Just don’t get why he cost that much at all.
6 months in Pogba had played more games, it’s too early to make a judgement especially given the propensity of Liverpool players to take a few months to get going, Robertson Chamberlain for examples, let’s see how this thread looks like in a year, his Leipzig time shows him as every bit a special player.
Keita is so far away from pogba he doesn’t deserve to lace Anthony Le Tallec’s Boots.
Are you a United fan? Not sure the 6 months thing is anything to do with Liverpool. We had that experience loads of times too. No doubt you should withhold any major judgments, because it's easy for great players to perform badly in the beginning. Writing people off is silly. But you can get glimpses of their talent... I don't see how you can watch him and think he's comparable to Pogba.
Pogba first 6 months here ( August 2016-February 2017 )
You can't compare Keita to Pogba...
He was already the best player at the club when he signed but there was a huge agenda against him and the fans hyped Herrera and Ibra...
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Well, you can, if you’re a loon.
I've been delighted to have Pogba in the team in every game since he's been here, even in his low moments, so there's no agenda on my side. At the beginning he started well, but soon after he struggled in those back-to-back losses against City and Feyenoord, and by December he'd managed just 2 goals. Pogba is obviously about much more than goals and assists, but his 2 goals and 4 assists around that Christmas period was when he kicked it up a gear from what I recall (after a quick check). I don't think it's controversial to say most players take a while to settle in, and Pogba was no different. That's why conversations like this were still happening a month after that 6 month period. You can put it purely down to agendas, I think people were just harsher critics of him for legitimate reasons.
Like most of us, I probably didn't see Keita play more than one game for Leipzig. Not sure if I even saw him play one. I've just watched one of those highlights videos and it's not hard to see why people are excited about him. He obviously has an impressive combination of physique, technique and intelligence, with some flair on top. A bit like Ozzy Ardiles but with more explosiveness. Or like Seedorf without the explosive shooting. Players like that don't come around very often. One of the problems you can have in the early stages is because they're so multi-talented, it's hard to know exactly where he's best. Especially when they're still maturing.
I would happily take him right now even though he hasn't impressed in a Liverpool shirt. Like you I just think comparisons to Pogba just seem silly. I suppose it has less to do with expecting too much of Keita, and more to do with some people still not realising how good Pogba is and can be.
In the same way, I was less than impressed considering his fee and the sky high expectations, but one year doesn't make and break a career, and I thought that even then.
I did think Pogba for 90m odd would do better than he has shown in his time at United. Perhaps those expectations are unrealistic. Perhaps he will start being that player from now, who knows?
I've said already that I am disappointed Naby hasn't flown out of the traps as quickly as I would have hoped. Luckily, we're doing alright without him, so the fanbase is a little more forgiving and patient.
Maybe United fans are thinking the same in relation to Fred? He'll come good towards the end of this season and help your charge towards a CL place?
No let's compare them on an ongoing basis and form the final view after a lengthier. At least that's how I prefer to do it. I'm not going to ignore one player looking miles below another for no reason.
As for Pogba, he hasn't lived up to his world record fee thus far but a few things have to be considered:
- We've been managed by poor managers for the last 5 years that have stifled our cohesion and attacking football.
- The focus on his flamboyant lifestyle shows a lack of perspective from others rather than Pogba's issues.
- He does have some decision making issues but it's more to do with comparisons with the absolutely best rather than the likes of Keita.
- He has generally been very good for us by any objective yardstick. However, he has had a tandancy to have 1 or 2 poor/average games after 3 sensational ones. Still, the quality of a top player is being displayed and it's mere fine tuning that was/is required.
- Now that he's playing in an attack minded team, he's absolutely tearing it apart. Every player needs that to elevate themselves - to play is a cohesive team. When he did so for Juve and France he achieved great things.
Wow, he's going to make "any kind of tangible impact". The expectations are really high from him then.
Nah most think Fred isn't going to get any better than what we've seen
In the Bundesliga he lost the ball pretty often when he was pressed. He tends to be to careless in the build up game. Other than that, i think his Positional Game is not strong. He often compensated that in the bundesliga with his outstanding dynamic. In Pools ZM, you need to defend very well. I think, he need to improve a lot in his defensive skills, before he can play in the starting 11. Overall i am not very suprised about his lack of minutes.
Another crap game.
Utterly wank tonight
Shite
:-)
He’s not great is he?
Didn't see this coming, thought he'd be a good player but he looks like absolute fecking shite.
My impression of him so far is that he's a tidy player but doesn't have the real quality to influence games.
Zero goals, zero assists. Bigger than Hitler, Better than Pogba.
It's well and good to say he needs time to adjust, but he's nowhere near Pogba which was the comparison many drew. Pogba needed to adjust, but he was contributing on the pitch from his first match upon returning.
What is his position? What role does he play in this side?
Looks like a complete misfit so far, he's obviously a good player who's struggling with the intensity of league.
Looks like a complete misfit so far, he's obviously a good player who's struggling with the intensity of league.
He’s absolute gash. Scousers made him out to be this mythical footballing creature based on a few YouTube clips and complete and utter loons on RAWK such as that BabaYagu (or whatever he calls himself) declaring him a ready-made world-class talent.
They never fecking learn.
They never fecking learn.
Liverpool fans laughed at me when I said Can will come out as a better player than Keita for this Liverpool side.
Well, what do I know
Well, what do I know
Don’t forget he’s what we thought Pogba was...
I don't know who wanker, him or Fred?
Definitely Keita
Fred shows moments of quality at least when he plays.
I’m not seeing anything from Keita, he’s just been a complete hype job so far. It reminds me of Schneiderlin.
He’s gash alright.
Not seem much of Keita but bloody hell, fred IMO is not that good despite showing some really good attacking plays. Wasn't this guy suppose to be better than pogba?
Fred scored a goal once
This thread will be a sore one for the Liverpool fans on here who were absolutely jizzing themselves pre season.
Fred has a better name, otherwise they are as crap as each other.
Keita looks clueless for the league leaders coming from the Bundesliga, Fred on the other hand came to a club in disarray from the Ukranian league. Different fish really.
Keita shouldn't need time to show his qualities. Bundesliga is a fast league like the PL, and the tactics are quite similar. Generally speaking, players from La Liga and Seria A struggle in the PL because the pace of the game and tactics are very different. Fred came from a feeder league and so is experiencing this level of football week in week out for the first time.
New Gerrard they said, feck me he looked amateur tonight.