Moyes To Succeed Ferguson Anyone?

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The key thing for the Glazers isn't to win trophies but to consistently finish in the top 4 while not spending a whole load of money. Moyes with his nouse would be more than capable of doing that.

The fans would get restless though after a couple of barren years.

That's very true, they're not like Chelsea and City, they're not owners who pump out money and demand success in result. They're owners who want to make money from the club, and you don't have to win trophies to do that.

That's one of the main reasons getting Moyes would really worry me.
 
I posted this in the other thread but it's probably more fitting here, I'm very against the idea of signing Moyes.

A few people are probably in love with the idea of a relatively modestly known manager coming in and building his own legacy here, in reality that's a very difficult thing to do considering who he is replacing, the team he is inheriting and the expectations that will be on his shoulders.

We're not Liverpool, we're not a team who has struggled in recent years and needs time to be rebuilt, we already have a great team (or close to it) that needs a great manager, and that manager is not Moyes, it'd just be a bad move, in my eyes.

Agree with this Cina.
This is arguably the biggest club in the world, and as good as Moyes has done at Everton what makes people think its enough to manage Manchester United?
 
The key thing for the Glazers isn't to win trophies but to consistently finish in the top 4 while not spending a whole load of money. Moyes with his nouse would be more than capable of doing that.

The fans would get restless though after a couple of barren years.

The trophies doesn't hurt them either. More trophies usually mean better commercial deals. The money from TV dealings is also a factor, the higher you are on the table, the more money you get. Going into the final of UCL and just passing the group stage is a difference about 20m.

Surely Glazers would want to win trophies, cause more trophies more money.
 
You have to start somewhere, Klopp and Jose weren't raking in the trophies in their stepping stone roles.

Yeah, winning the CL with Porto really isn't raking in a trophy.

When Klopp took over Dortmund they were a mid table club with very few expectations, massive difference.
 
Sources saying successor is cut from same cloth. It's fecking Moyes isn't it. Can't believe it.
 
Sky Sources have Moyes in pole position and he was the bookie's favourite by a long way before all the rumours came out.
 
What has Moyes done though? He's managed a good club for a long time without ever really taking them to the next level, and when he did take them to Europe, they failed terribly.

There's just such a massive gap between being consistently decent at a club like Everton and having to manage Man Utd and win trophies.

Fair enough, so it's more a case of Moyes not showing he's capable than doing something you disagree with? That's a fair view. The major issue with Moyes is that he doesn't have that top level experiance, so I can see why people would be hesitant/wary of putting faith in him. Personally it doesn't bother me because I think he's capable of making the step up. He's proven himself to be a great and consistent manager, so the lack of managing a big team doesn't change that for me. But I can understand why others wouldnt have the same confidence.

In terms of what he's actually done though then surely you can't see anything majorly wrong? He has a good transfer record, manages to get the absolute most out of players, has a well drilled and organised side, consistently overperforms, handles the press well enough, develops players well and seems to give youth a chance.

With Mourinho he has that big team experience in abundance, but there is a big aspect of his management that is easy to diagree with. He seems to always want to spend huge somes of money and quite often pisses it away, he tends to play conservative football despite having an absurd amount of talent, doesn't promote youth players and acts a dick in the media.
 
Such an uninspiring choice. No experience of winning trophies, no experience of dealing with big players, no CL experience. It's a massive gamble if he is chosen and if he doesn't start well he will be under immense pressure.
 
I dont get why they have to wait 48 hours when everyone already knows who its going to be. feckING MOYES!
 
Yeah, winning the CL with Porto really isn't raking in a trophy.

When Klopp took over Dortmund they were a mid table club with very few expectations, massive difference.

It wasnt Jose's first job.

Dortmund are one of the biggest clubs in Germany. And in Germany the transformation from mid table to Champions isn't anywhere near as difficult as it'd be here in England (See Wolfsburg, Stuttgart, Dortmund) examples of clubs who went from mid table to Champions in no time.
 
I'm preparing a Moyes Out banner as we speak.
 
Moyes is going to get a much shorter rope with the fans than Mourinho.
 
This is because Moyes respects United's heritage. Is cut from the same cloth as Sir Alex and Sir Matt Busby. And is a long term manager according to SSN.

Cannot disagree really.
 
As much as I like Moyes and all that he has done for my club. This move has got disaster written all over it. Utd could almost have a choice of any top coach in the world and yet they chose David Moyes?! He won't last 2 seasons.
 
As much as I like Moyes and all that he has done for my club. This move has got disaster written all over it. Utd could almost have a choice of any top coach in the world and yet they chose David Moyes?! He won't last 2 seasons.

Totally agree. Disastrous move for the club.
 
Fair enough, so it's more a case of Moyes not showing he's capable than doing something you disagree with? That's a fair view. The major issue with Moyes is that he doesn't have that top level experiance, so I can see why people would be hesitant/wary of putting faith in him. Personally it doesn't bother me because I think he's capable of making the step up. He's proven himself to be a great and consistent manager, so the lack of managing a big team doesn't change that for me. But I can understand why others wouldnt have the same confidence.

In terms of what he's actually done though then surely you can't see anything majorly wrong? He has a good transfer record, manages to get the absolute most out of players, has a well drilled and organised side, consistently overperforms, handles the press well enough, develops players well and seems to give youth a chance.

With Mourinho he has that big team experience in abundance, but there is a big aspect of his management that is easy to diagree with. He seems to always want to spend huge somes of money and quite often pisses it away, he tends to play conservative football despite having an absurd amount of talent, doesn't promote youth players and acts a dick in the media.

This is exactly why I think Ferguson himself wants Moyes to be the next manager. He has all the same values and football brain that Ferguson has. Moyes understands so well the importance of youth, something Ferguson bangs on about all the time. Also, you are right, Jose always needs to spend loads of dosh - not something the Glazers will be attracted to. Moyes is also bloody loyal and a stayer.
 
As much as I like Moyes and all that he has done for my club. This move has got disaster written all over it. Utd could almost have a choice of any top coach in the world and yet they chose David Moyes?! He won't last 2 seasons.

Exactly, it's a very underwhelming move.
 
As much as I like Moyes and all that he has done for my club. This move has got disaster written all over it. Utd could almost have a choice of any top coach in the world and yet they chose David Moyes?! He won't last 2 seasons.

If it's someone who ,will stay long enough with the club they want, pick me.

Seriously though, Mourinho has done his travelling (madrid, inter, chelsea), he's been to all the big leagues. He could settle down at United.
 
feck Off Moyes your not wanted here. Nowhere near good enough for us.
 
lot of hate for moyes here. One thing is for sure, whoever it is, I as a fan am going to be fully behind them since they are going to need all the support they can get trying to follow the great man..
 
I like Moyes. I think he's done a very good job with Everton. Teams around him have often had alot more money to spend, but he's kept them as a very strong upper-midtable side on very limited resources. That has be applauded.

What worries me is that the next man in charge is going to be under huge, huge pressure. Not just because it's Manchester United, but also because Sir Alex's replacement is undoubtedly is going to be compared to the man he is replacing. Does Moyes have the mental strength and the experience to subside the pressure's of being United boss? Fergie did so by manufacturing a siege-mentality, and he always managed to alleviate the pressure from his players to the public and the press. Perhaps Moyes won't employ the same tactic, but if you start being too submissive and accepting fault, then the pressure will pile on. Moyes always seems like a bit of an apologist when things don't quite go right for him, and that might not be right for United. I don't think he's tough enough for it.

Now, I don't really care for Mourinho that much, but what he does have is confidence and a certain swagger. You can't get under Mourinho's skin or inside his head. He is far too aloof to the media to allow them to do that. I think he'd be the best candidate, purely because of his experience of being under pressure and not really letting it affect him.
 
Seriously though, Mourinho has done his travelling (madrid, inter, chelsea), he's been to all the big leagues. He could settle down at United.

Geoff Shreeves said he is nailed on to go back to Chelsea as he wants to settle back in England and for him England is London where his family is comfortable.
 
You have to start somewhere, Klopp and Jose weren't raking in the trophies in their stepping stone roles.

Jose's been successful wherever he's been, trophies galore. I'll support Moyes 100% as I feel one day he was going to be ready for the job.. i feel the timings abit off for him but lets hope he develops into a truly great manager.
 
Evertons style of football isn't good to watch, Moyes doesn't really get on with flair players, has a terrible record in europe. Massive no from me.

Of course I will back him if he's appointed, but still, no.
 
I'm stunned if this is true. I've watched Everton with him for over 10 years and he has done a very good job. But I fear he is going to be way out of his depth. I mean with everything, from the style of football expected, to the pressure of being expected to win the PL and CL. It's just too much for him.
 
Those of you who are against Moyes, what would you do if we hired him? I am just hoping his doubters treat him with a bit of respect.
 
I guess if you throw at a dartboard so often you will hit the bullseye at least once!

Not looking forward to the Moyes era.
 
Why would we want him anyway, to slow our progress?

That's what I dont get, anybody can see he's nowhere near the calibre we should be looking at. Honestly a mind boggling decision if the rumours are true.
 
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