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Only suspense left now is whether the club/Gill will use the phrase "European experience" when talking about his appointment.
During his tenure at Goodison Park, David has taken charge of the team on over 500 occasions including four European campaigns.
Not too hard to find:
This tickled me from the Everton site:
Getting knocked out in qualifiers now counts as a European Campaign
This tickled me from the Everton site:
Getting knocked out in qualifiers now counts as a European Campaign
The bit where he talks about "We won it 5 times" and the nazi officer puts his hand on his chest with 5 fingers out is hilarious.
Saw this on Football 365 about the appointment:
No, no, no. I'm not having this.
Moyes? At United? Are you sure? This is for real? This isn't some sort of ginger-themed hallucination? It's not a mushroom flashback? Christ.
Look, I'm not a United fan but I know exactly what United are; they're one of the few elite clubs in world football. There is no bigger job than managing them. No bigger profile, no bigger focus, no bigger pressure. And you're going to give this job to someone whose best gig so far has been steering a noble but, in comparison, tiny club on a tight budget? That's the only qualification you needed? Big Sam has done that. So has Tony Pulis, so has Steve McClaren. At least McClaren got his club to a UEFA Cup final. Has Moyes done that? No he hasn't. Just doing OK on a budget is an achievement but it is an achievement that is irrelevant to United. It's like saying you've run a small corner shop well, made a profit every year and then being put in charge of Coca Cola on that basis.
Of course Moyes might do a good job, he might, but then that possibility is true of almost anyone. If you employed the Chuckle Brothers, Orville The Duck or Ozzy Osbourne, they might do a good job. The point is when you're a huge global force, you don't bet the farm on someone who has not even had a sniff of the rarefied air he's about to work in. And you don't do that because you have no idea how he'll handle it. He might be rocking back and forth in a corner with his head in his hands after a month. Seriously. As I wrote yesterday, this job can break a man, just like that. Ferguson could resist critics by waving his CV. Moyes hasn't got a bloody CV, or rather, he's only got one that says: 'I did quite well without much money but didn't win anything, in fact other managers with less resources won things and did better than me and yes I signed Andy van der Meyde but I am Scottish if that helps and I can look cross'.
Not. Good. Enough. Not by a long way. No no no. It's wrong.
Get away with you. This is insane! And made all the more insane by the fact that the best manager in world football is available right now. That's RIGHT NOW! He wants the job. You know he wants the job. If anyone can make United successful in Europe - an arena which Ferguson was never king of - it's Jose Mourinho. And you think David Moyes can achieve what Jose Mourinho can't? It's senseless. It's stupid. If he was that good, Real Madrid would want Moyes to replace Jose. Well do they? Do they bollocks. No elite club in the world would sign Moyes as a manager. No offence Davey but you've done sod all, so you don't get to hold the wheel of the big boys' bus.
Look, look, wanting another long-term manager and hoping Moyes will be that is utter madness. In case no-one was looking the teams that have won most trophies in Europe over the years are clubs like Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Barcelona - they change managers all the time. Even Liverpool's 25-year period of success was across four different managers. This longevity of tenure thing is all rubbish. Ferguson was the exception not the rule. Forget it. It's not relevant. You want the best you can get, you want him now and you can have him. So why Moyes? Why? Why?
No no no. I'm not having this. It's almost immoral. I can't help feeling that somehow it has all been engineered by Rafa Benitez as part of a long-term black ops campaign to undermine Manchester United. If so, well done Rafa. You have won.
What would you call it?
Are you aware that they only lost one qualifier and as such went to play in the UEFA Cup anyway which counted as a European campaign.
Look, look, wanting another long-term manager and hoping Moyes will be that is utter madness. In case no-one was looking the teams that have won most trophies in Europe over the years are clubs like Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Barcelona - they change managers all the time. Even Liverpool's 25-year period of success was across four different managers. This longevity of tenure thing is all rubbish. Ferguson was the exception not the rule. Forget it. It's not relevant. You want the best you can get, you want him now and you can have him. So why Moyes? Why? Why?
Certainly not a 'campaign'. Whoever wrote that glorified it a wee bit imo
Please refrain from posting sheer amounts of bollocks
Saw this on Football 365 about the appointment:
No, no, no. I'm not having this.
Moyes? At United? Are you sure? This is for real? This isn't some sort of ginger-themed hallucination? It's not a mushroom flashback? Christ.
Look, I'm not a United fan but I know exactly what United are; they're one of the few elite clubs in world football. There is no bigger job than managing them. No bigger profile, no bigger focus, no bigger pressure. And you're going to give this job to someone whose best gig so far has been steering a noble but, in comparison, tiny club on a tight budget? That's the only qualification you needed? Big Sam has done that. So has Tony Pulis, so has Steve McClaren. At least McClaren got his club to a UEFA Cup final. Has Moyes done that? No he hasn't. Just doing OK on a budget is an achievement but it is an achievement that is irrelevant to United. It's like saying you've run a small corner shop well, made a profit every year and then being put in charge of Coca Cola on that basis.
Of course Moyes might do a good job, he might, but then that possibility is true of almost anyone. If you employed the Chuckle Brothers, Orville The Duck or Ozzy Osbourne, they might do a good job. The point is when you're a huge global force, you don't bet the farm on someone who has not even had a sniff of the rarefied air he's about to work in. And you don't do that because you have no idea how he'll handle it. He might be rocking back and forth in a corner with his head in his hands after a month. Seriously. As I wrote yesterday, this job can break a man, just like that. Ferguson could resist critics by waving his CV. Moyes hasn't got a bloody CV, or rather, he's only got one that says: 'I did quite well without much money but didn't win anything, in fact other managers with less resources won things and did better than me and yes I signed Andy van der Meyde but I am Scottish if that helps and I can look cross'.
Not. Good. Enough. Not by a long way. No no no. It's wrong.
Get away with you. This is insane! And made all the more insane by the fact that the best manager in world football is available right now. That's RIGHT NOW! He wants the job. You know he wants the job. If anyone can make United successful in Europe - an arena which Ferguson was never king of - it's Jose Mourinho. And you think David Moyes can achieve what Jose Mourinho can't? It's senseless. It's stupid. If he was that good, Real Madrid would want Moyes to replace Jose. Well do they? Do they bollocks. No elite club in the world would sign Moyes as a manager. No offence Davey but you've done sod all, so you don't get to hold the wheel of the big boys' bus.
Look, look, wanting another long-term manager and hoping Moyes will be that is utter madness. In case no-one was looking the teams that have won most trophies in Europe over the years are clubs like Real Madrid, Inter Milan, Barcelona - they change managers all the time. Even Liverpool's 25-year period of success was across four different managers. This longevity of tenure thing is all rubbish. Ferguson was the exception not the rule. Forget it. It's not relevant. You want the best you can get, you want him now and you can have him. So why Moyes? Why? Why?
No no no. I'm not having this. It's almost immoral. I can't help feeling that somehow it has all been engineered by Rafa Benitez as part of a long-term black ops campaign to undermine Manchester United. If so, well done Rafa. You have won.
Not sure if it's been posted or not, but apparently a second photo was accidentally put onto Facebook:
Not sure if it's been posted or not, but apparently a second photo was accidentally put onto Facebook:
Dave Goddard @DaveGoddard1971 2m
MUTV confirm Moyes now