Moyes To Succeed Ferguson Anyone?

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Raoul said:
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Balu said:
Would you expect the new manager to overtake all of Ferguson's tasks within the club? Usually in germany the manager (Klopp) is more a coach with less involvement in the financial part of the business for example. If you want to bring in Klopp, the club needs a few changes in the structure at first to make it work, imo.

Though I doubt, Klopp would switch clubs instantly (quit in June/start in July). Most likely, if he takes a job at a big club abroad, he will take some time off after he feels he's done with Dortmund, then sign a new contract early on and start learning what's necessary for the new job - language, financial knowledge, background knowledge about the club, etc. Being well prepared before he actually starts at his new club will help being successful from the get-go. If he comes to United he's planning on staying for a while and he won't risk it by rushing the move.
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It's less likely than in the past due to the sheer size of the game these days. Only Ferguson and perhaps Wenger are the remaining managers who have such a large say at every level of such a big club. Moyes has a close working relationship with the Everton chairman but I'm not sure what they discuss.

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Jippy said:
God, we all remember the Keane, Hughes and Bruce speculation years ago. Would be awful for a legendary ex-player to come back as manager, feck it up and tarnish his legacy at the club.
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Keane has been managing to do that all by himself anyway by being such a prick.
 
paceme said:
So you don't consider the fact that Moyes has rebuilt teams instead of just buggering off impressive? I don't want him here myself but he is clearly an excellent manager, consistent, capable of consistently having to rebuild sides and he very very rarely let's Everton be geniunly embarrassed.
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I'd say their Uefa Cup run is one of the most embarrassing moments in Europe for a Premier League team in the last decade. A 5-2 loss on aggregate against a Dinamo Bucharest side that went on to finish bottom of their group in the next round suggests picking up European football is going to be far more of a challenge than people here are suggesting. He deserves a load of credit for his consistency and team-building skills, no question. I just don't think that's anywhere near enough. And I don't think it's impressive that he hasn't just buggered off, personally, because Everton's a great job. I'm sure if Caparrós was allowed to he'd have happily stayed at Bilbao for 10 years too. A club with little expectations but enough resources to achieve some sort of success (European qualification, cups) is a great place to be.
 
I don't think you can look at young managers and say that 'the don't run the club in the same way as Fergie/Wenger' personally. I think that level of respect comes with time. As you settle in, you probably start to control more aspects, from the youth levels down for instance. Dortmund have a great recent record with young players for instance, and I'm sure somebody like Klopp would have ideas as to direction in this area.
 
Rozay said:
I don't think you can look at young managers and say that 'the don't run the club in the same way as Fergie/Wenger' personally. I think that level of respect comes with time. As you settle in, you probably start to control more aspects, from the youth levels down for instance. Dortmund have a great recent record with young players for instance, and I'm sure somebody like Klopp would have ideas as to direction in this area.
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Who decides the Academy director or whether to bring in Ex-Players as coaches in the Reserves till then ? Those sort of decisions.

Ed Woodward takes the call or we bring in a Sporting director of sorts to mantain continuity. I really don't want that or United to become a 2/3 year manager conveyor belt.
 
With Moyes, I'm not sure that as a manager, he can attract the biggest names in the game. He doesn't have global respect really. Fergie was a manager top players wanted to work with. I suspect some of the very best will look at Moyes like 'and who are you, sorry?'.
 
Kevin said:
Not Moyes, please.
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Oliver Holt from the Mirror was saying that Moyes was busy planning summer targets for Everton. Also, Moyes doesn't have the Champions League experience that surely the Glazers (even though they leave playing matters alone) would require for the perceived stability of the club?
 
Pretty sure it'll be Mouriniho.

Just won the league, needing an operation, Mouriniho finished at Real and looking to go and turn Chelsea into a major rival again. Last chance to get him, really.
 
manusteve said:
Oliver Holt from the Mirror was saying that Moyes was busy planning summer targets for Everton. Also, Moyes doesn't have the Champions League experience that surely the Glazers (even though they leave playing matters alone) would require for the perceived stability of the club?
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Only got a handful of managers who were successful in Europe and the majority of them are signed up. Fergie has mentioned Moyes a few times now so he must think Moyes is up for the job, If he is hired then we will have to ignore this "no European experience" talk and give him a chance.
 
As much as i do rate Moyes, i would feel pretty under-whelmed by him being the next manager, and would worry about his experience in Europe, aswell as his ability to attract big name players.

Its got to be Mourinho for me. And if it is can he bring Ronnie with him too!!

There must be some pretty nervous Chelsea fans out there now!
 
I've never been a massive fan of Mourinho the person, but by God, I'd have him here any day instead of Moyes. We have to pay exactly what is needed or get Klopp
 
Can't help but think this has a lot to do with Mourinho - the closer he got to Chelsea forced our hand so to speak? He can't be THAT nailed on for the Chelsea job or surely Ferguson would have stayed? It's all just very weird given that a few weeks ago Ferguson said himself he had no plans to retire.
 
So now that he actually has truly retired, do the people who previously backed Moyes or 'wouldn't mind him' (when they probably still thought "no way is Fergie retiring yet anyway, so let's just give a lighthearted answer/play devil's advocate/annoy some people") still support the now real possibility of him being the Manchester United manager?
 
I think it will be Moyes, ftr.

Those rumours of his started pretty much at the same time.
 
Cina said:
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want Moyes. The jump is far too big for him.
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This. Would we be linked with the Spanish or Italian equivalent of Moyes, no chance. So the main reason is because he's British.

I can see the Glazers going for him though as he is a very cheap option.
 
Cina said:
I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want Moyes. The jump is far too big for him.
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Same here. dont want him here at all. Big chance he'l be here though now. With all the rumors coinciding with the time of the great man's retirement.
 
I don't think Moyes would be too bad, but God I'm hoping for Mourinho!
 
Think we might have to get round to the idea of having Moyes as our manager. Just hoping it's not true..
 
I posted this in the other thread but it's probably more fitting here, I'm very against the idea of signing Moyes.

A few people are probably in love with the idea of a relatively modestly known manager coming in and building his own legacy here, in reality that's a very difficult thing to do considering who he is replacing, the team he is inheriting and the expectations that will be on his shoulders.

We're not Liverpool, we're not a team who has struggled in recent years and needs time to be rebuilt, we already have a great team (or close to it) that needs a great manager, and that manager is not Moyes, it'd just be a bad move, in my eyes.
 
FlawlessThaw said:
This. Would we be linked with the Spanish or Italian equivalent of Moyes, no chance. So the main reason is because he's British.

I can see the Glazers going for him though as he is a very cheap option.
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Glazers are businessman people and they won't go necessarily with the cheapest option if that means that they can lose a lof of money during the years for that decision.
 
If it is Moyes, I hope everyone gets right behind him from the off. We don't need what happened with Benitez at the Renties to happen here.

That said, I really hope it's not Moyes
 
It's hard to see past Mourinho to be honest, his friendship with Fergie will obviously be of great importance. He has also hinted at his love for the club. Only question is, can he behave like we'd expect from a United manager?
 
Hiring Moyes would leave me with the same underwhelmed feeling as when we sold Ronaldo and replaced him with Valencia.
 
Cina said:
I posted this in the other thread but it's probably more fitting here, I'm very against the idea of signing Moyes.

A few people are probably in love with the idea of a relatively modestly known manager coming in and building his own legacy here, in reality that's a very difficult thing to do considering who he is replacing, the team he is inheriting and the expectations that will be on his shoulders.

We're not Liverpool, we're not a team who has struggled in recent years and needs time to be rebuilt, we already have a great team (or close to it) that needs a great manager, and that manager is not Moyes, it'd just be a bad move, in my eyes.
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Why do you think it's a bad move, is it tactics, youth record, transfers etc?

The only reason in that post there is that we don't need to rebuild.. but why does that rule out Moyes?
 
As far as we've been told, Moyes doesn't have the prerequisites to be Fergie's successor. European experience and a trophy winning record go against him. Will the board really ignore all that just to get him in?

He's worked miracles at Everton but still... he wouldn't be my first choice, even if he is British.
 
Theon said:
Why do you think it's a bad move, is it tactics, youth record, transfers etc?

The only reason in that post there is that we don't need to rebuild.. but why does that rule out Moyes?
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What has Moyes done though? He's managed a good club for a long time without ever really taking them to the next level, and when he did take them to Europe, they failed terribly.

There's just such a massive gap between being consistently decent at a club like Everton and having to manage Man Utd and win trophies.
 
Revan said:
Glazers are businessman people and they won't go necessarily with the cheapest option if that means that they can lose a lof of money during the years for that decision.
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The key thing for the Glazers isn't to win trophies but to consistently finish in the top 4 while not spending a whole load of money. Moyes with his nouse would be more than capable of doing that.

The fans would get restless though after a couple of barren years.
 
Raven Blade said:
As far as we've been told, Moyes doesn't have the prerequisites to be Fergie's successor. European experience and a trophy winning record go against him. Will the board really ignore all that just to get him in?

He's worked miracles at Everton but still... he wouldn't be my first choice, even if he is British.
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Gill said 2 weeks ago, new manager shouldn't be one who makes wholesale changes. Or he won't be our manager.
 
I know none of you believed me when I said it, but my aunty is good friends with Moyes and his wife. If they're giving anything away then I'll know before the end of the week if he's taking over. He did say over a year ago that Fergie has assured him that he is his choice and he'll do all he can to get him the job as long as he's still involved at the club.
 
Cina said:
What has Moyes done though? He's managed a good club for a long time without ever really taking them to the next level, and when he did take them to Europe, they failed terribly.

There's just such a massive gap between being consistently decent at a club like Everton and having to manage Man Utd and win trophies.
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You have to start somewhere, Klopp and Jose weren't raking in the trophies in their stepping stone roles.
 
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