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Moyes To Succeed Ferguson Anyone?
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If Moyes or any other young British manager had won as much as Mourinho did, then he'll be considered as the second coming of the Christ.
Honestly I have mixed feelings about this
On one hand, Moyes has achieved NOTHING to remotely suggest that he's a winner + he's got zero experience in the CL
On the other hand, the guy has done well at a club which are more skint then we are. Unlike Mourinho he tends to stick around + he tend to rely alot on kids, an asset at a club like United.
On one hand, Moyes has achieved NOTHING to remotely suggest that he's a winner + he's got zero experience in the CL
On the other hand, the guy has done well at a club which are more skint then we are. Unlike Mourinho he tends to stick around + he tend to rely alot on kids, an asset at a club like United.
This is a good point actually, doesn't he earn £3m or something at Everton?
What does a No. 2 earn? Maybe 10% of that?
If he's coming to United as a No2 it's not for short term monetary gain.
That's a massive wage drop though, especially when he can command what he's worth elsewhere.
He'll be making well more then 300k
I think he'll only accept if the club promises him the NO 1 role after SAF's retire
Lord No no no no no no no no!!!
I tend to agree.
I also think, that if Moyes comes as NO 2 then the next season will be SAF's final year as Manager
This would imply Fergie has never been wrong about an individual coming to United...
Seriously...what has Moyes done to deserve the job?
Moyes is a risk, simply because he hasn't managed at the highest level yet, but all the top managers were a risk at some point. Everyone needs their break. If Fergie is having a say in this and reckons Moyes is the man for the job, I'd trust him. He is Man United. Stability after Fergie goes is key and if Moyes offers that, after spending a year learning from Ferguson then I'd be happy enough to tak e that risk.
Please no.
He's also been right a hell of a lot. Perhaps you are wrong about Moyes? Or is that not a possibility?
I'd agree with that too.
Read through the thread for all the same old arguments.
I'm not implying anything. I'm just saying that IF Moyes gets the job it's obviously because Fergie wants Moyes to succeed him.
Fergie could be horribly wrong about Moyes, of course. And it could be the Daily Mail is horribly wrong in suggesting this will come to pass. My point is simple: Fergie rates Moyes highly. Make of that what you will.
The owners will love him though. He sticks with the club for a long time, he never complains, he's used to work with ridiculous budgets and he relies alot on the youth academy.
it's a massive massive chance I'm completely wide of the mark...of course.I'm just saying that because Fergie rates him doesn't mean it will work...though the post was explained and I agree with him. All good.
As you say the great man has a far better eye that myself...I'm just asking the question.
Plus he can pick out a good player when he does spend money, as well as playing a similar system to what we have done traditionally.
I think he'd be a good manager here, even though he's not had experience with a big club.
Yes, I see what you mean...he does. I think he has done a decent job with Everton, don't get me wrong.
He has worked on a shoe string, kept them stable, had runs in the cup and got them into Europe.
The thing is, and my only bog reservations about him are
1. He hasn't won anything.
2. He's not really expected to.
3. He doesn't play a style of football I especially like.
Maybe all those things would change and evolve at United. He'd need time, patience and a bit of luck. 2 of which he may not get at all. Just my two penny worth really. He wouldn't be the worst appointment but I must admit there are others that tick boxes ahead of him.
All this being said we don't know who will be available when Fergie does indeed retire.
This is one of the things I quite like about him.
Exactly. I think even if it was only for a few years it would offer some sort of continuity.
I'm just saying that because Fergie rates him doesn't mean it will work...though the post was explained and I agree with him. All good.
As you say the great man has a far better eye that myself...I'm just asking the question.
It's all if's, but's and maybe's at this moment in time, but for Fergie to name him alongside Jose and Pep says how highly he rates him.
Every chance he could be...it's a risk though...
Taking over from Fergie, not managed with big expectations, very little experience in European competition.
It's sort of why I'd have liked him for the Spurs job...to make that next step up and see how he deals with it. Bigger budgets, bigger egos possibly, the weight of expectation rather than the hope of over achieving.
It'll be interesting to see what we go for when Sir Alex calls it a day.
I don't disagree with that and it might still happen. I'd be very surprised if he took our assistant managers job but then again, I know how much he wants the job here and what Fergie has said to him about it in the past. He might just take the plunge if given the opportunity in order to put himself at the top of the list.
Much like Fergie in that regard. You could argue that Aberdeen punched above their weight when Fergie was in charge and Everton have done the same, though without any real consistency.
Didn't Fergie win the Scottish Cup, The Scottish First Division and the ECWC with Aberdeen mind?
It;s not really the same...he punched above his weight and won stuff!
It;s not really the same...he punched above his weight and won stuff!
Pros
Cons
- He was a professional footballer, like Fergie
- He's been good in the transfer market
- He's took Everton from a club struggling to survive in the league, to challenging for European places
- Hugely experienced
- Good reputation with youngsters
Cons
- He hasn't won anything, when SAF came he'd had moderate success
- He wouldn't want to wait more then a season or two, I want Sir Alex to stay for longer
The difference between when SAF was appointed & now is that, at the time, United needed to do something different. We don't need to do something different now.
Another fair point...I don;t think he'd get anywhere near the same time as Fergie got either...
Even this season, he's done really well with Everton. They're right on the tail of Spurs and Arsenal, whilst being ahead of teams like Southampton and Swansea, who have all been praised to high heavens this season. I think he's done an amazing job with a relatively average squad.
You forgot negative football. People whining now would be unable to cope.
I think it might be interesting to see how Laudrup and AVB get on in the next 3/4 years as well. Just a thought.
To be fair, whomever takes over from Fergie is always gonna be "the wrong guy" no matter who he is
At one point this season, Everton were playing superb football. Possibly the best in the league at that period. I don't even think they're that negative, they play a similar system to what we have, just at a lower level.
If we win the league then this really isn't true.
Moyes doesn't do it for me.
I may be well behind in this thread and the point already made, but how about Ole being brought in to study at Fergie's feet while Fergie serves his last 2-3 seasons. When he announces retirement, effectively immediately -- no more "this is my last season crap we had to deal with 10 years ago -- Ole takes over?
If not Ole -- all kinds of good reasons not to go this route -- then a manager who has European experience, when that time comes.
I may be well behind in this thread and the point already made, but how about Ole being brought in to study at Fergie's feet while Fergie serves his last 2-3 seasons. When he announces retirement, effectively immediately -- no more "this is my last season crap we had to deal with 10 years ago -- Ole takes over?
If not Ole -- all kinds of good reasons not to go this route -- then a manager who has European experience, when that time comes.
Thar's noo doobt abou' that.
How can you go from saying Moyes isn't good enough to then suggest Ole?
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