Moyes: "There's no budget" | Moyes told that he can spend as much as he likes

We had to spend £27M on Fellatio (I still can't believe that however many times I see it), so looks like we need to spend £40+ to get a properly decent player, & don't we have Kagawa for the 2nd one anyway, if only he could get a game in the correct position.

Fella should have cost £23m in fairness, and if we weren't so stupid, he would have. As for Shinji, 'correct position' is in place of Rooney. Not to mention he still has a bit to do before he can be described as the player I summarised for us.
 
It depends. You'd get those who'd opt for the big-pay packet despite having to play for Moyes, whilst we'd get the players that want to live in London and play for AVB rather than Moyes.

Aye, we all know the lure of an osyter card and proximity to the Tate Modern matters more to many modern footballers than the size of the contract on offer.

I swear to god, you have to be a gooner on a career WUM to make us all despise/laugh at an essentially likeable football club. Amazing.
 
Our fans have been quite annoyed that Moyes didn't want Thiago, it's been widely reported, where have you got the inside info from that from that we didn't bid because he refused us? I can provide articles that state Moyes didn't go for him because he wasn't sure about him.

And articles that Baines told Martinez he wanted to leave, but clearly isn't the type of player to rock the boat.

Messi wouldn't have left Barcelona for us either, in your little mind does that equal him turning Moyes down too?
If we didn't bid for the player they didn't turn us down, yes, our window was shambolic but not because big name players didnt want to play for Moyes. That's fiction you've made up to WUM the forum. It's quite uninventive too, try harder next time Glaston. You're getting boring.

Articles sharmitcles. PR spin after the fact that Thiago preferred Bayern. The stories about the pursuit of Thiago ran for weeks with no denials from United until it became clear he wasn't coming.

As for Modric, you mentioned him first, not me. I'm merely saying that he wouldn't have come bid or no bid.
 
So AVB is now a major pulling power. Top quality comedy, this.

AVB is apparently such a pulling point, players across the world are desperate to play for AVB....the same AVB that's already spectacularly failed at the only club he's been at, close to United's standing. And who has now had to take a step back and join Spurs in order to rebuild his reputation. Which, incidentally, if he does, will then result in him leaving Spurs and joining a big club. Just like the Barbatov's and Bale's of this world.
 
Aye, we all know the lure of an osyter card and proximity to the Tate Modern matters more to many modern footballers than the size of the contract on offer.

I swear to god, you have to be a gooner on a career WUM to make us all despise/laugh at an essentially likeable football club. Amazing.
fecking 'ell, the zombies are back to find there is no new thing under the sun.
 
So AVB is now a major pulling power. Top quality comedy, this.

He's considerably more of a pulling power than Moyes. International connections/knowledge and clear system for playing attacking football vs. a Moyes who? bent on dour conservatism.
 
Aye, we all know the lure of an osyter card and proximity to the Tate Modern matters more to many modern footballers than the size of the contract on offer.

I swear to god, you have to be a gooner on a career WUM to make us all despise/laugh at an essentially likeable football club. Amazing.

I'm not here to make you "like" Spurs. I'm here to discuss football and exchange views. If you want sugar-coated pandering to the greatness of United then try another poster.

I think you've made a huge mistake in appointing Moyes - regardless of him being Fergie-recommended - and I think you'll struggle to finish in the top 4. That's my honest view whether you like or not.
 
Glaston, you might have some credibility if you did not peddle the same shit when Fergie was still in charge. You should have your own boom-bust cycle graph here.
 
I'm not here to make you "like" Spurs. I'm here to discuss football and exchange views. If you want sugar-coated pandering to the greatness of United then try another poster.

I think you've made a huge mistake in appointing Moyes - regardless of him being Fergie-recommended - and I think you'll struggle to finish in the top 4. That's my honest view whether you like or not.

But your views are always wrong.
 
He's considerably more of a pulling power than Moyes. International connections/knowledge and clear system for playing attacking football vs. a Moyes who? bent on dour conservatism.

Glad to see you're back to your best and talking utter shite.
 
Glaston, you might have some credibility if you did not peddle the same shit when Fergie was still in charge. You should have your own boom-bust cycle graph here.

Yet another fictionalised version of my previous posts. What such inventions seek to gain is beyond me.

I have never before predicted at the start of a season that United will be slogging it out for 4th spot. This time it's different.
 
Hey Glaston, remember this?
Chelsea
Liverpool
Man. United
Arsenal
Villa
Spurs

If it ends up differently to the above, the most likely changes IMO could be Arsenal in 3rd and United in 4th, with a slight possibility also that Spurs might finish 5th instead of Villa.

We won the league that year, 18 points above 4th. Spurs finished 8th, 1 point above 10th.

Nonsense.

Chelsea, United or Arsenal - 3 teams - could win the title, with Chelsea in my book being pretty strong favourites.

Also, the season has a long way to run. If United continue to falter they could find themselves sucked into the struggle to finish in the top 4 ... it's foolish to rule that possibility out.

This season we finished 1 point off the top. You make boring comments about us struggling to finish in the top four on a regular basis.
 
Hey Glaston, remember this?


In case you've forgotten, we won the league that year, 18 points above 4th. Spurs finished 8th, 1 point above 10th.

:lol::lol::lol:

The thing with Glaston, and what makes him an obvious WUM, is he hand picks all his replies. If there's anything that calls him out, or he has no response to, he just ignores it or leaves the thread. Its pathetic.

Should have been banned years ago.
 
Yet another fictionalised version of my previous posts. What such inventions seek to gain is beyond me.

I have never before predicted at the start of a season that United will be slogging it out for 4th spot. This time it's different.

Au contraire. Usually I'm right.

Let me quote another Glaston post here. Last September.

... Everton are going great guns (and if past seasons are any guide, usually get better as the season progresses), Man. City are almost certainly nailed on for top 4, Arsenal and Chelski will obviously be in the mix and Spurs have finished in the top 4 twice in the last 3 seasons. Then there's Newcastle.

So something has to give if we're to exclude the idea that Man. Utd could be left without a chair when the music stops.

In my view, relative to previous standards Man. Utd have not performed well for quite some time now and have partly been riding a combination of luck, self-belief and the fact that many opposition teams have believed they'll lose even before they turn up. However, all of these factors are gradually fading out.

Moreover, you've again failed to strengthen in the crucial CM area and - again in my view (as I previously said this summer) - have spent a lot of money in recent seasons on players who either weren't especially needed or who actually aren't that great. There are exceptions of course.

All in all, the odds are that you will still finish in the top 4 (though I think the title will be well beyond you), but there remains IMO a significant chance that you won't.

I think you're in for a difficult season, but we shall see ...
He always, always peddles this shit that we're on the brink of decline. All the fecking time.
 
Digging out failed predictions from years ago to prove a point is really the nadir of forum debating, I find.


I didn't go to a good school like you so I never learned how to debate properly, in fairness. I'm one of those underprivileged kids that had to go to a school you've never even heard of. Ghastly, I know.
 
Digging out failed predictions from years ago to prove a point is really the nadir of forum debating, I find.

Not when he flat out denies that he's been making these silly predictions about United's imminent demise for years now.
 
I didn't go to a good school like you so I never learned how to debate properly, in fairness. I'm one of those underprivileged kids that had to go to a school you've never even heard of. Ghastly, I know.


What are you on about? I'm just saying it's clearly possible to disprove Glaston's posts without randomly digging up old threads. You could do the same to anyone.
 
Are you trying to suggest that a CL-less Spurs are a more attractive club to play for than a CL-less United? Really?

I have to admit, that for a while it was quite amusing looking at Glaston, peterstorey and Neviller going at each other about being a WUM. That was some high class irony.

However, even bias should have its limits and I say that as someone who sympathizes with both United and the Spurs. Even in this very unlikely scenario of United missing out on the CL and Moyes still being here despite it, United will of course still have more pulling power than Spurs simply because of reputation and the higher chances of titles. United is a European elite club, which is a status you don´t lose after one poor season, just like you don´t gain it after one good one. Nobody in their right minds thought that Bayern Munich would fall from the face of the earth, when they finished 4th in 2006/2007 and thus played only EL in the following season. It was absolutely clear, that they would recover quite fast given the sheer size as a club.

Spurs do have some attraction for players, especially for a specific mould: highly rated talents who are looking for a good amount of playtime under a quality coach. The most recent examples being Lamela and Eriksen. Most of these players won´t stay forever there, though, and view Tottenham more like a platform to gain the interest of the elite clubs like the before mentioned Manchester United. This is a frustrating concept, which I can fully relate to being a supporter of a club, which lost three quality players to said elite clubs in the recent past.

It does not make it better to completely shut your eyes before that and live in your little dream world, where the Spurs are some kind of world beaters.
 
What are you on about? I'm just saying it's clearly possible to disprove Glaston's posts without randomly digging up old threads. You could do the same to anyone.

He predicted several times over the years that United will be in a struggle to finish in the top four and that it's not inconceivable we'll not make it. Yet he denies it. How do you disprove that? By digging up his posts that prove he's a wumming liar.
 
Hey Glaston, remember this?


We won the league that year, 18 points above 4th. Spurs finished 8th, 1 point above 10th.



This season we finished 1 point off the top. You make boring comments about us struggling to finish in the top four on a regular basis.

So, in neither of these quoted posts did I predict, at the season start, that United would struggle to finish 4th, which is what I'm predicting now. Must try harder.
 
There was a significant chance that we wouldn't finish top 4 last year apparently, the title was well beyond us and it turned out we were basically certain to win the league with 10 games to go. :lol:
 
Let me quote another Glaston post here. Last September.


He always, always peddles this shit that we're on the brink of decline. All the fecking time.

Once again, in the quoted post I did not predict that United would struggle to finish in 4th place. In fact I said the odds were your favour.

So yet another failed attempt to back up the previous invention of what I am supposed to have said.
 
Once again, in the quoted post I did not predict that United would struggle to finish in 4th place. In fact I said the odds were your favour.

So yet another failed attempt to back up the previous invention of what I am supposed to have said.

I said you are always, always peddling this shit, i.e: predicting our demise. And you're doing that in the quoted post, citing our dropping standards and us losing the ability to win even when playing shite. You predicted we'll be well beyond the title and you said we might finish outside the top four - and it turned out to be yet another in a long line of your ludicrous predictions about United's decline. Because, you know, being well beyond the title does not mean winning it with games to spare.
 
GlastonSpur post: 14254692 said:
So, in neither of these quoted posts did I predict, at the season start, that United would struggle to finish 4th, which is what I'm predicting now. Must try harder.

Can you read? I didn't suggest you did. I just said you routinely predict us to finish lower than we do. And you do, obviously.
 
He predicted several times over the years that United will be in a struggle to finish in the top four and that it's not inconceivable we'll not make it. Yet he denies it. How do you disprove that? By digging up his posts that prove he's a wumming liar.

You clearly don't know the difference between "will" and "might" or "could".

I'm saying that United will struggle to finish in the top 4 this season and that Spurs will finish above you. Neither of these things have I predicted before and no amount of digging will show otherwise.

One thing that differentiates me from some posters on here: I mostly couldn't be arsed to try and dig up the historical posts of another poster in an attempt to point score. I'm not that desperate or obsessed.

And when the dug-up posts are mostly failures to prove the point concerned, it just makes the desperation all the more pathetic I'm afraid.
 
Not when he flat out denies that he's been making these silly predictions about United's imminent demise for years now.

You took issue with my saying "I have never before predicted at the start of a season that United will be slogging it out for 4th spot. This time it's different."

The truth is that, despite your desperation to prove otherwise, you've failed to do so. But go and spend the next few hours digging through more of my posts if that's what floats your boat.

But I'd suggest you'd profit more by hoping that United set Moyes adrift in a life raft before the poor man drowns.
 
I said you are always, always peddling this shit, i.e: predicting our demise. And you're doing that in the quoted post, citing our dropping standards and us losing the ability to win even when playing shite. You predicted we'll be well beyond the title and you said we might finish outside the top four - and it turned out to be yet another in a long line of your ludicrous predictions about United's decline. Because, you know, being well beyond the title does not mean winning it with games to spare.



Sounds a bit like what you lot say about Arsenal every summer....apart from the winning the title stuff obviously.
 
Can you read? I didn't suggest you did. I just said you routinely predict us to finish lower than we do. And you do, obviously.

You did so in the context of the general clamour that what I said about fabricated words being put in my mouth was untrue ... when it fact the various quotes show otherwise.
 
Sounds a bit like what you lot say about Arsenal every summer....apart from the winning the title stuff obviously.
It's a bit different. If the memory serves me right, the general consensus on here has always been you're going to finish 4/5, even back in when you were worse than now. Which has proved to be not much of a stretch as there have been times when you've just about made it. The equivalent would be us saying you're going finish 6/7 year in year out and I don't think anyone in his right mind has been continuously predicting that on here.
 
It's a bit different. If the memory serves me right, the general consensus on here has always been you're going to finish 4/5, even back in when you were worse than now. Which has proved to be not much of a stretch as there have been times when you've just about made it. The equivalent would be us saying you're going finish 6/7 year in year out and I don't think anyone in his right mind has been continuously predicting that on here.



Yes they have, every summer the Caf writes off The Arsenal.
 
As I recall you got banned partly for persistent "witch-hunting" against anyone who dared to breathe any criticism of United's summer transfer dealings. But in the end, your "top red" posturing collapsed under the weight of its own accumulating blind stupidity, as transfer absurdity piled on top of transfer absurdity.
Well, well, well..... You're a cock.
 
Well at least Spurs and Arsenal fans finally agree on something, even if it's nothing to do with their own clubs.

Redcafe - home of improving relations between other clubs and arguements amongst Utd fans
 
You clearly don't know the difference between "will" and "might" or "could".

I'm saying that United will struggle to finish in the top 4 this season and that Spurs will finish above you. Neither of these things have I predicted before and no amount of digging will show otherwise.

One thing that differentiates me from some posters on here: I mostly couldn't be arsed to try and dig up the historical posts of another poster in an attempt to point score. I'm not that desperate or obsessed.

And when the dug-up posts are mostly failures to prove the point concerned, it just makes the desperation all the more pathetic I'm afraid.
And people were saying you were wide of the mark when you said that we might struggle and you'll be wide off the mark again when you say we will struggle.
 
You took issue with my saying "I have never before predicted at the start of a season that United will be slogging it out for 4th spot. This time it's different."

The truth is that, despite your desperation to prove otherwise, you've failed to do so. But go and spend the next few hours digging through more of my posts if that's what floats your boat.

But I'd suggest you'd profit more by hoping that United set Moyes adrift in a life raft before the poor man drowns.

You said there was a significant chance we'd be fighting it out for top 4 a year after we finished level on points with champions City (89 points) and added the best player in the league to our squad you tool. We went on to win the league comfortably.