peterstorey
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Didn't play a forward pass at Emirates. Quacks like a duck...
Didn't play a forward pass at Emirates. Quacks like a duck...
They've invested in youth and unproven quantities. Clubs like ourselves and Real will enjoy the peak years of Spurs' current crop.
I'm not defending the transfer shambles of this summer, but who, apart from Fabregas, did we fail to attract? Moyes pussied out on Thiago, we didn't bid for Modric, Özil by most accounts wanted to come to United but we wanted to keep Rooney and they play in the same position, Herrera by all accounts wanted to come here we just didn't want to pay the full clause. Yes the transfer window was shambolic but it was nothing to do with quality players being put off by Moyes, our problems in this window were self inflicted.
Hmm, 1 league goal in 5, meanwhile Ramsey's got 3. You wouldn't know a feck from a hole in your arse.2 goals and 1 assist so far for Spurs: sounds like he's managing to waddle forward well enough.
Based on your comments thus far you wouldn't know a duck from a duck-billed platypus.
Well, you've mentioned 2 already: Fabregas and Thiago (who would never have chosen Moyes over Bayern Munich). Then there's Baines, who seemed quite content to stay at Everton. And Modric would not have left RM for Moyes.
Your pulling power under Moyes is considerably reduced IMO.
Baines asked to leave, Everton didn't want to sell him.Well, you've mentioned 2 already: Fabregas and Thiago (who would never have chosen Moyes over Bayern Munich). Then there's Baines, who seemed quite content to stay at Everton. And Modric would not have left RM for Moyes.
Your pulling power under Moyes is considerably reduced IMO.
Spurs' business has been better than Arsenal's, no question. Flamini is totally average and although Mesut is utter class, £42 million is ridiculous on reflection, particularly when Lamela and Eriksen cost much less combined.
Baines asked to leave, Everton didn't want to sell him.
Thiago and Modric are hypothetical because we didn't bid for either because Moyes didn't want them for whatever reason. At least give your point some credence.
You pursued Thiago but didn't bid because it became clear he wouldn't come. And you didn't bid for Modric because he would never have come either. The notion that Moyes didn't want the former and would not have wanted the latter is just convenient fiction.
As for Baines - did he put in a transfer request?
To return to my original question, IF it happens that United don't qualify for the CL next season - which I think is at least a possibility - then which top quality players would want to come? Wouldn't it more likely that you'd lose Rooney than gain some top-notch CM?
It's one thing for Spurs to attract quality/potential quality players this summer even without CL football, because we still had the London factor, plus a player-attractive manager and a very-well connected DoF (Baldini), but without CL football to offer wouldn't you be left with the remains after clubs like Bayern, RM, Barca, Chelsea, City, Juve etc have had their fill?
Sure, you could still offer massive wages, but then so could many others with CL football to boot.
How is that even going to happen?CL-less both of you.
Our fans have been quite annoyed that Moyes didn't want Thiago, it's been widely reported, where have you got the inside info from that from that we didn't bid because he refused us? I can provide articles that state Moyes didn't go for him because he wasn't sure about him.You pursued Thiago but didn't bid because it became clear he wouldn't come. And you didn't bid for Modric because he would never have come either. The notion that Moyes didn't want the former and would not have wanted the latter is just convenient fiction.
As for Baines - did he put in a transfer request?
Your whole post is rubbish from start to finish.
First, I haven't spent the whole summer "boasting about how amazing Spurs' new signings are" - I've said nothing about Chiriches, I've said that Paulinho looked very good in the Confed. Cup (which he did), I've said very little about any of the individual other new signings, and I've noted for all of the new signings that it remains to be seen how well they adapt to the Prem. Beyond that I've said only that my belief is that overall we've strengthened the squad despite losing Bale, though this belief remains to be proven over the course of the season .
Second, I haven't said we're better than everyone else. I'm predicting 3rd place for Spurs.
Third, I haven't said that a club can't attract quality players if they're not in the CL. I've merely asked as to how United would fare in attracting quality players next summer, given your failure to do so this summer, if you were to not qualify the CL?
Are you trying to suggest that a CL-less Spurs are a more attractive club to play for than a CL-less United? Really?
Amazing, that's unheard of level of delusion to be fair.Wages aside, yes.
I don't know why people, myself included, respond to his idiocy tbf. I won't be doing it again mind.Amazing, that's unheard of level of delusion to be fair.
Amazing, that's unheard of level of delusion to be fair.
Wages aside, yes.
Spurs' business has been better than Arsenal's, no question. Flamini is totally average and although Mesut is utter class, £42 million is ridiculous on reflection, particularly when Lamela and Eriksen cost much less combined.
Why would anyone respond to such a laughable question?
What if the moon turns into a chicken? What will you do then?
I'm not sure about us anymore as I'm pretty worried we might struggle more in the coming weeks but Arsenal are going to finish ahead of you and I say it with absolute certainty.It isn't laughable. It's something that some United fans fear - even suspect - could happen under Moyes, especially since you messed up this summer whilst several other teams got stronger. I'm not saying it WILL happen, but it could, and I stick with my prediction that yourselves and Arsenal will be slogging it out for that last CL spot.
I was punning on clueless, can't see you doing worse (or better) than 4.How is that even going to happen?
He's absolutely top class but they basically improve the one and only position they didn't have to improve. People laughed at us when we did that with Van Persie.But but but you're forgetting the fact that Ozil solves their keeper issues, shores up their defence while making the need for a second striker absolutely meaningless.
It isn't laughable. It's something that some United fans fear - even suspect - could happen under Moyes, especially since you messed up this summer whilst several other teams got stronger. I'm not saying it WILL happen, but it could, and I stick with my prediction that yourselves and Arsenal will be slogging it out for that last CL spot.
He's absolutely top class but they basically improve the one and only position they didn't have to improve. People laughed at us when we did that with Van Persie.
So no then?
It was always going to be a brilliant decision as RvP's a top player, much like Ozil will shine for them. Did it solve our midfield problems, though?And it proved to be a brilliant decision so probably not the best example.