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Didn't play a forward pass at Emirates. Quacks like a duck...

2 goals and 1 assist so far for Spurs: sounds like he's managing to waddle forward well enough.

Based on your comments thus far you wouldn't know a duck from a duck-billed platypus.
 
Spurs' business has been better than Arsenal's, no question. Flamini is totally average and although Mesut is utter class, £42 million is ridiculous on reflection, particularly when Lamela and Eriksen cost much less combined.
 
I'm not defending the transfer shambles of this summer, but who, apart from Fabregas, did we fail to attract? Moyes pussied out on Thiago, we didn't bid for Modric, Özil by most accounts wanted to come to United but we wanted to keep Rooney and they play in the same position, Herrera by all accounts wanted to come here we just didn't want to pay the full clause. Yes the transfer window was shambolic but it was nothing to do with quality players being put off by Moyes, our problems in this window were self inflicted.

Well, you've mentioned 2 already: Fabregas and Thiago (who would never have chosen Moyes over Bayern Munich). Then there's Baines, who seemed quite content to stay at Everton. And Modric would not have left RM for Moyes.

Your pulling power under Moyes is considerably reduced IMO.
 
2 goals and 1 assist so far for Spurs: sounds like he's managing to waddle forward well enough.

Based on your comments thus far you wouldn't know a duck from a duck-billed platypus.
Hmm, 1 league goal in 5, meanwhile Ramsey's got 3. You wouldn't know a feck from a hole in your arse.
 
Well, you've mentioned 2 already: Fabregas and Thiago (who would never have chosen Moyes over Bayern Munich). Then there's Baines, who seemed quite content to stay at Everton. And Modric would not have left RM for Moyes.

Your pulling power under Moyes is considerably reduced IMO.


Champions League and a nice wage packet. That's all players want in life...
 
Well, you've mentioned 2 already: Fabregas and Thiago (who would never have chosen Moyes over Bayern Munich). Then there's Baines, who seemed quite content to stay at Everton. And Modric would not have left RM for Moyes.

Your pulling power under Moyes is considerably reduced IMO.
Baines asked to leave, Everton didn't want to sell him.
Thiago and Modric are hypothetical because we didn't bid for either because Moyes didn't want them for whatever reason. At least give your point some credence.
 
Spurs' business has been better than Arsenal's, no question. Flamini is totally average and although Mesut is utter class, £42 million is ridiculous on reflection, particularly when Lamela and Eriksen cost much less combined.



My reaction to this post.

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Stewart on the Paddy Crerand show trying to justify not pushing the boat out for Herrera. Joke!
 
At least you didn't have United's window alistair....you definitely made the better last minute purchase.

I am not ashamed to admit I'm slightly jealous.
 
Baines asked to leave, Everton didn't want to sell him.
Thiago and Modric are hypothetical because we didn't bid for either because Moyes didn't want them for whatever reason. At least give your point some credence.

You pursued Thiago but didn't bid because it became clear he wouldn't come. And you didn't bid for Modric because he would never have come either. The notion that Moyes didn't want the former and would not have wanted the latter is just convenient fiction.

As for Baines - did he put in a transfer request?

To return to my original question, IF it happens that United don't qualify for the CL next season - which I think is at least a possibility - then which top quality players would want to come? Wouldn't it more likely that you'd lose Rooney than gain some top-notch CM?

It's one thing for Spurs to attract quality/potential quality players this summer even without CL football, because we still had the London factor, plus a player-attractive manager and a very-well connected DoF (Baldini), but without CL football to offer wouldn't you be left with the remains after clubs like Bayern, RM, Barca, Chelsea, City, Juve etc have had their fill?

Sure, you could still offer massive wages, but then so could many others with CL football to boot.
 
Are you trying to suggest that a CL-less Spurs are a more attractive club to play for than a CL-less United? Really?
 
You pursued Thiago but didn't bid because it became clear he wouldn't come. And you didn't bid for Modric because he would never have come either. The notion that Moyes didn't want the former and would not have wanted the latter is just convenient fiction.

As for Baines - did he put in a transfer request?

To return to my original question, IF it happens that United don't qualify for the CL next season - which I think is at least a possibility - then which top quality players would want to come? Wouldn't it more likely that you'd lose Rooney than gain some top-notch CM?

It's one thing for Spurs to attract quality/potential quality players this summer even without CL football, because we still had the London factor, plus a player-attractive manager and a very-well connected DoF (Baldini), but without CL football to offer wouldn't you be left with the remains after clubs like Bayern, RM, Barca, Chelsea, City, Juve etc have had their fill?

Sure, you could still offer massive wages, but then so could many others with CL football to boot.

Why would anyone respond to such a laughable question?

What if the moon turns into a chicken? What will you do then?
 
You pursued Thiago but didn't bid because it became clear he wouldn't come. And you didn't bid for Modric because he would never have come either. The notion that Moyes didn't want the former and would not have wanted the latter is just convenient fiction.

As for Baines - did he put in a transfer request?
Our fans have been quite annoyed that Moyes didn't want Thiago, it's been widely reported, where have you got the inside info from that from that we didn't bid because he refused us? I can provide articles that state Moyes didn't go for him because he wasn't sure about him.

And articles that Baines told Martinez he wanted to leave, but clearly isn't the type of player to rock the boat.

Messi wouldn't have left Barcelona for us either, in your little mind does that equal him turning Moyes down too?
If we didn't bid for the player they didn't turn us down, yes, our window was shambolic but not because big name players didnt want to play for Moyes. That's fiction you've made up to WUM the forum. It's quite uninventive too, try harder next time Glaston. You're getting boring.
 
It must be a pleasing, dreamy scenario for you, Glaston, but let's face the truth - you're not finishing above us even if we have a relatively poor season. I have to say you won't finish above Arsenal, who themselves will end up below us, either. It's a shame as I've got nothing against Spurs.
 
Your whole post is rubbish from start to finish.

First, I haven't spent the whole summer "boasting about how amazing Spurs' new signings are" - I've said nothing about Chiriches, I've said that Paulinho looked very good in the Confed. Cup (which he did), I've said very little about any of the individual other new signings, and I've noted for all of the new signings that it remains to be seen how well they adapt to the Prem. Beyond that I've said only that my belief is that overall we've strengthened the squad despite losing Bale, though this belief remains to be proven over the course of the season .

Second, I haven't said we're better than everyone else. I'm predicting 3rd place for Spurs.

Third, I haven't said that a club can't attract quality players if they're not in the CL. I've merely asked as to how United would fare in attracting quality players next summer, given your failure to do so this summer, if you were to not qualify the CL?

:lol::lol:

You've been acting like a smug twat on here all Summer, predicting the demise of United and Arsenal. You do it every summer, then disappear when Spurs inevitably feck it all up. You also spent half the summer telling anyone that would listen that Bale was going nowhere and would sign a new contract :lol: We, us, anyone? ;) For a Spurs fan you have unbelievable delusions of a grandeur.

As for you're final point, we didn't 'fail to attract quality players' this summer in the slightest. We made a mess of our transfers, yes, but that was of our own doing, trying to penny pinch. Absolutely nothing to do with the 'failure to attract players'. We clearly had 4 main targets this season - Fabregas/Herrea/Baines/Fellaini. Three of those we couldn't agree deals on (the clubs fault), and the other was signed. Manchester United are one of the most attractive clubs in the world to sign for, far more-so then bloody Tottenham Hotspur (Not even the biggest club in there own City). Most players would kill to play for United and that includes every single signing you made this summer. Infact, you know full well they only went to Spurs because none of the bigger clubs were interested, as Willian perfectly demonstrated. Spurs are a stepping stone club for any player with real ambition. See Campbell, Carrick, Berbatov, Bale et ell.
 
Bayern and Milan still managed to sign very good players and rebuild their respective teams when they missed out on Champions League a few years ago. Actually they both signed better quality of players than before because they were aware of consequences of not investing. One season without CL would damage us financially but it wouldn't make us much less attractive, it's still Manchester United we are talking about.
 
Glaston's on fire today. That's easily the biggest pile of bollocks I've heard this month.
 
We've been in CL year in year out since 1996 I think, even if we don't make it for a year it's quite obvious it's going to be temporary. Spurs made it once since the CL began, it's fair for players who consider moving there to assume it might be difficult for them to make it again and that doesn't even consider the fact that we are a few levels above them in terms of being a big club.
 
Wages aside, yes.

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Thats right, Tottenham Hotspur are a more attractive club to join then Manchester United. The club that have won 5 out of the last 7 Premier League, are 3 time European Cup winners, have one of the biggest (if not the biggest) fan base in the world, play infront of £75,000 people every week....I could go on.

You utter fecktard. Your club isnt even the second biggest on your own City.
 
Spurs' business has been better than Arsenal's, no question. Flamini is totally average and although Mesut is utter class, £42 million is ridiculous on reflection, particularly when Lamela and Eriksen cost much less combined.

But but but you're forgetting the fact that Ozil solves their keeper issues, shores up their defence while making the need for a second striker absolutely meaningless.
 
Why would anyone respond to such a laughable question?

What if the moon turns into a chicken? What will you do then?

It isn't laughable. It's something that some United fans fear - even suspect - could happen under Moyes, especially since you messed up this summer whilst several other teams got stronger. I'm not saying it WILL happen, but it could, and I stick with my prediction that yourselves and Arsenal will be slogging it out for that last CL spot.
 
It isn't laughable. It's something that some United fans fear - even suspect - could happen under Moyes, especially since you messed up this summer whilst several other teams got stronger. I'm not saying it WILL happen, but it could, and I stick with my prediction that yourselves and Arsenal will be slogging it out for that last CL spot.
I'm not sure about us anymore as I'm pretty worried we might struggle more in the coming weeks but Arsenal are going to finish ahead of you and I say it with absolute certainty.
 
But but but you're forgetting the fact that Ozil solves their keeper issues, shores up their defence while making the need for a second striker absolutely meaningless.
He's absolutely top class but they basically improve the one and only position they didn't have to improve. People laughed at us when we did that with Van Persie.
 
It isn't laughable. It's something that some United fans fear - even suspect - could happen under Moyes, especially since you messed up this summer whilst several other teams got stronger. I'm not saying it WILL happen, but it could, and I stick with my prediction that yourselves and Arsenal will be slogging it out for that last CL spot.

I just hope we can somehow finish ahead of Crystal Palace. We're quite clearly doomed now. Especially after Bale signed his new contract at Spurs as you predic... whoops.
 
He's absolutely top class but they basically improve the one and only position they didn't have to improve. People laughed at us when we did that with Van Persie.

And it proved to be a brilliant decision so probably not the best example.
 
So no then?

It depends. You'd get those who'd opt for the big-pay packet despite having to play for Moyes, whilst we'd get the players that want to live in London and play for AVB rather than Moyes.
 
And it proved to be a brilliant decision so probably not the best example.
It was always going to be a brilliant decision as RvP's a top player, much like Ozil will shine for them. Did it solve our midfield problems, though?
 
So AVB is now a major pulling power. Top quality comedy, this.