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Moyes: "January not an easy month to purchase in. We have a good squad."
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
Great.
Oh come on, you were cool some time ago. Is there any way to ban this word from the Caf. It is embarrasing how many times the word embarrasing has been mentioned in the Caf, regardless if it was used for something embarrasing or not.
We'll see. I hope you're right but a Cabaye+Baines summer wouldn't be surprising. No matter how unique the situation is.
You're taking it too literally, he knows we didn't make a bid, I say "I don't think that's true" all the time when I know it isn't true.
I'm not really bothered how many times it's been used or not, if it's appropriate to use it, I'm going to use it!
I'd be very surprised with that, but yeah we will have to wait and see.
Didn't make a bid cause they enquired a day after cut off.
Cabaye will be PSG bound
Why surprised? That's the market we will be in without CL football....unless we go crazy with money - highly unlikely
The manager should be making the call independent of a player who cannot be relied upon to be objective, particularly one with RVP's past with injuries. As it turned out he claimed that he feared the media reaction following such a decision which only compounded the errors surrounding that non-substitution.
I think that we made a bid for him, but they wanted 5m more and we had to act if we wanted to sign him by a deadline. We acted later. This was the sotry on the summer.
About Moyes, I think that he always (many times) starts his sentences with 'I think/I don't think', so 'I don't think it was more than a bid' shouldn't be understood as 'he doesn't know if we bid for him or not' but is more 'it was only a bid'.
Right, so if you know that then obviously Moyes knows that, so what's your problem exactly? That he didn't declare the inner details of a transfer that didn't happen to the world? He was asked a question on De Rossi and answered it in a few short sentences, as he should have because it has no relevance to anything.
And? He's going to be asked all sorts of questions that he doesn't need to answer. It's better leaving people to speculate about the summer than knowing that we failed with an approach for Fabregas, Baines, Coentrao and possibly DDR while we're currently sitting with a midfield worse than last years and two left backs who can't defend. I hope he doesn't get asked about Khedira in case that's true.
Surely you have to trust your players? You'd think RvP would know his body and what its capable of better then anybody. It's an odd thing to attack Moyes for.
Another storm in a teacup.
There are about eight different arguments going on in here right now, I blame Moyes and religion, but mostly Moyes.
When did Moyes reveal we failed in bids to get Fabregas, Baines, Contrao and DDR?
Fixed in line with my point.
We only have one squad place available by the way folks. You're all pretty set on transfers being 'the right players'. Perhaps they've decided the right player isn't available this month.
There will definitely be more scope for reshaping next summer when at the very least we'll be without Rio, Fabio and Anderson. Prudence might actually be beneficial during that potential rebuilding process.
There will definitely be more scope for reshaping next summer when at the very least we'll be without Rio, Fabio and Anderson. Prudence might actually be beneficial during that potential rebuilding process.
I don't think that would be the case, I'm not so sure our appeal is only based on a Top 4 position.
Look through the first page on your recent posts mate. Seriously, just have a read. Perhaps you don't realise just how much anti-Moyes stuff you're posting. It's incessant, but you're not alone, and it really is getting tedious.
Honestly, this is the leading Manchester United fan forum and look at it. What happened to supporting our manager and being above all the pettiness that surrounds other clubs? We're showing ourselves to be no better at all, in fact we're increasingly looking like a bunch of spoilt, small time arses, bitching and moaning at every negative headline or quote.
We're Manchester United, we're fecking better than this. At least, we should be.
I don't know whether to go OTT like some of you have, or gain a little, oh what's that popular word used on here? Oh that's right, perspective.
On the one hand, how dare he not think we can make any signings this window! Has he seen our performance throughout the season and the need for improvement?
But on the other hand, how many large moves have we truly seen in recent times in January? Torres was £50 million, Suarez at £23 million, Carroll at £35 million (still makes me laugh). Top players are very sparse due to clubs not wanting change halfway through the season, so a big money move will have to be expected with a large premium if they were to happen, something we enjoy doing anyway.
But if he leaves it now, we won't make top 4, and we won't get any top players to sign.
But remember the last time Moyes opened his mouth about signing players? Everyone got their panties in a twist because we didn't sign anyone of significance. At least in saying this, he won't disappoint as much should we fail to do so.
I'm going to leave it to the "I don't think so" instead of a straight "No" line to give me hope for improving. We've been linked with fantastic players like Reus and Koke, but they are unlikely to leave, so would you like us settling for a Fellaini-type signing again?
On the one hand, how dare he not think we can make any signings this window! Has he seen our performance throughout the season and the need for improvement?
But on the other hand, how many large moves have we truly seen in recent times in January? Torres was £50 million, Suarez at £23 million, Carroll at £35 million (still makes me laugh). Top players are very sparse due to clubs not wanting change halfway through the season, so a big money move will have to be expected with a large premium if they were to happen, something we enjoy doing anyway.
But if he leaves it now, we won't make top 4, and we won't get any top players to sign.
But remember the last time Moyes opened his mouth about signing players? Everyone got their panties in a twist because we didn't sign anyone of significance. At least in saying this, he won't disappoint as much should we fail to do so.
I'm going to leave it to the "I don't think so" instead of a straight "No" line to give me hope for improving. We've been linked with fantastic players like Reus and Koke, but they are unlikely to leave, so would you like us settling for a Fellaini-type signing again?
Only up to a point, ideally you would expect your manager to know his people and apply a modicum of care to a player who has recently returned from injury. In the heat of battle with the team is chasing a win it would only be understandable were RVP desirous of taking undue risks for the cause, Moyes though he may sympathise has to take a broader view.
I simply thought it to be a bit naive and silly at the time, i'm not lobbing a rotten cabbage at Moyes' head as he walks past the Megastore.
'I just wanted something there' is really hilarious.
Interesting stuff about Herrera, how the hell they didn't know that Athletic Club is the most difficult club in the world to negotiate, and not that they don't accept bids, they'll make the life for you hell even if you match the bid.
In overall, happy with the interview. Mainly because we aren't going to sign Baines. On another side, baffled that we judged Fellaini to be worth of 27.5m but were never going to go for Herrera's clause which was only 3m higher.
Interesting stuff about Herrera, how the hell they didn't know that Athletic Club is the most difficult club in the world to negotiate, and not that they don't accept bids, they'll make the life for you hell even if you match the bid.
In overall, happy with the interview. Mainly because we aren't going to sign Baines. On another side, baffled that we judged Fellaini to be worth of 27.5m but were never going to go for Herrera's clause which was only 3m higher.
That's an old interview btw!
Of course my recent posts are going to be on this and if i have an opinion im likely to stick to it - really don't see your point.
Look, were not going to agree. I would suggest we leave it there
That interview was ages ago, it's all been posted on here already.
I think you give the modern player to much credit.
Money, CL, Club - in that order. For most players. Those from British isles likely to be different if course - they will still see us the top club.
Possibly, but when that club is United and the money is good enough, I think we can still attract the best.
You're probably right, I doubt we will.
No doubt if we pony up the cash....but we will need to in order to attract the right quality.
Any season outside of CL is bad but this,season in particular is a bad one when you consider the age if many in our squad. There is a rebuild needing to start.
I was hoping we would sign 1 maybe 2, but January is not a good time to buy.
Hopefully summer will provide the player we are in desperate need of.
He said the opposite when talking about our chances of winning the CL and loads of fans were lambasting him for it. I don't see anything wrong with what he publically says here. I suspect he's thinking different privately.
Juventus managed to retain most of their top players when they were relegated during the Calciopol.
"Would you like to play for Manchester United, one of the most successful and wealthiest clubs of all time, including the past 10 years?"
"No, they might finish fifth."
Seriously. Some of you are insane.
"No, they might finish fifth."
Seriously. Some of you are insane.
Yeah, they wouldn't care about finishing fifth, they just wouldn't want to play under Moyes.