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This still reminds me of the "he can't go another summer without buying a midfielder" posts...
Great.
This still reminds me of the "he can't go another summer without buying a midfielder" posts...
These twitter hype stories and time exclusives are getting increasingly embarrassing.
Great.
You're taking it too literally, he knows we didn't make a bid, I say "I don't think that's true" all the time when I know it isn't true.It's the DDR stuff that gets me - thinks??
Oh come on, you were cool some time ago. Is there any way to ban this word from the Caf. It is embarrasing how many times the word embarrasing has been mentioned in the Caf, regardless if it was used for something embarrasing or not.
We'll see. I hope you're right but a Cabaye+Baines summer wouldn't be surprising. No matter how unique the situation is.
You're taking it too literally, he knows we didn't make a bid, I say "I don't think that's true" all the time when I know it isn't true.
We'll see. I hope you're right but a Cabaye+Baines summer wouldn't be surprising. No matter how unique the situation is.
I'd be very surprised with that, but yeah we will have to wait and see.
How could asking a player if he was OK to continue be a weakness??!
Didn't make a bid cause they enquired a day after cut off.
Right, so if you know that then obviously Moyes knows that, so what's your problem exactly? That he didn't declare the inner details of a transfer that didn't happen to the world? He was asked a question on De Rossi and answered it in a few short sentences, as he should have because it has no relevance to anything.Didn't make a bid cause they enquired a day after cut off.
And? He's going to be asked all sorts of questions that he doesn't need to answer. It's better leaving people to speculate about the summer than knowing that we failed with an approach for Fabregas, Baines, Coentrao and possibly DDR while we're currently sitting with a midfield worse than last years and two left backs who can't defend. I hope he doesn't get asked about Khedira in case that's true.Because he was asked about it after some De Rossi quotes came out?
The manager should be making the call independent of a player who cannot be relied upon to be objective, particularly one with RVP's past with injuries. As it turned out he claimed that he feared the media reaction following such a decision which only compounded the errors surrounding that non-substitution.
And? He's going to be asked all sorts of questions that he doesn't need to answer. It's better leaving people to speculate about the summer than knowing that we failed with an approach for Fabregas, Baines, Coentrao and possibly DDR while we're currently sitting with a midfield worse than last years and two left backs who can't defend. I hope he doesn't get asked about Khedira in case that's true.
Fixed in line with my point.Manager in answering press questions that don't benefit him controversy!!
Why surprised? That's the market we will be in without CL football....unless we go crazy with money - highly unlikely
Look through the first page on your recent posts mate. Seriously, just have a read. Perhaps you don't realise just how much anti-Moyes stuff you're posting. It's incessant, but you're not alone, and it really is getting tedious.I've posted plenty - you just happen to notice all of mine on Moyes.
Look, it's the single most important part of our club right now so it generates discussion amongst all of us. Am I going to apologise for having a strong opinion? Am I feck. Are you not cringing at a lot if what he is saying? Thinks there wasn't a bid? Scared to take Rvp off cause people would have said he didn't know what he was doing? I'm not going to talk about players from other clubs...proceeds to talk about fabregas for weeks.
As for criticism over very little - I don't agree it's very little. He's made mistake after mistake, shows no sign of asking any improvements in our play (go wide to Valencia. Aimlessly cross ball into box. Fail. Repeat), and his handling if the media in general is just poor. Even the Rooney stuff on Friday - why did he dignify the question with a response? He should batted it straight back. Instead, he has created more headlines by implying he could leave. Now, you and I and any sensible fan know Rooney cold be off anyway, but the majority of fans did not need to see the manager hinting at that as a possibility - it doesn't take much for the media in this country to peddle the "Utd in Crisis" headlines and all he done was fan the flames at a time where he should be the calming and controlling influence.
I didn't want him either so we do agree on that!
I echo this postLook through the first page on your recent posts mate. Seriously, just have a read. Perhaps you don't realise just how much anti-Moyes stuff you're posting. It's incessant, but you're not alone, and it really is getting tedious.
Honestly, this is the leading Manchester United fan forum and look at it. What happened to supporting our manager and being above all the pettiness that surrounds other clubs? We're showing ourselves to be no better at all, in fact we're increasingly looking like a bunch of spoilt, small time arses, bitching and moaning at every negative headline or quote.
We're Manchester United, we're fecking better than this. At least, we should be.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/sep/13/manchester-united-moyes-fellainiWhen did Moyes reveal we failed in bids to get Fabregas, Baines, Contrao and DDR?
David Moyes has denied Manchester United had a disappointing summer transfer window despite buying only one player, Everton's Marouane Fellaini, who cost £27.5m in a frantic scramble on deadline day.
The manager revealed that the club intentionally allowed the midfielder's £23m buy-out clause to expire as part of a doomed joint bid for Leighton Baines, a strategy that ended with United paying £4.5m more for Fellaini than they needed to. Asked if he would have preferred to land the Belgian for the cheaper price before the clause in his contract expired on 31 July, Moyes said: "No, because we chose to do it the way we did. We wanted to keep the chance with Leighton Baines until the last minute. Only at the last minute did we split the deal. That was the way we decided to do it."
Moyes conceded that any future deal for Baines is now dead. "I would have to say so, yes," said the Scot.
Despite a summer that featured failure to land Cesc Fábregas or Thiago Alcântara from Barcelona, Athletic Bilbao's Ander Herrera and Real Madrid's Sami Khedira and Fábio Coentrão, besides Baines, Moyes said: "Did we miss out on a lot of targets? No. Was it disappointing? No. We tried to get some great players to join Manchester United and for different reasons we couldn't get them.
"In the end we knew at the start of the window that we liked Marouane Fellaini, you've heard my explanation on why we didn't do it sooner. I wanted Leighton Baines right up until the end and we tried right up until the last minute and we thought we had the Coentrão deal done and we just lost it near the end. I just wanted something there."
The deal to land Herrera fell down on the final day as Athletic refused to budge from the €36m (£30.6m) valuation of the central midfielder's release clause. This came against the bizarre backdrop of "imposters" who apparently posed as United representatives to visit Spanish Football Association headquarters to muscle in on the deal.
Moyes said: "The stuff about Herrera, we made an offer for £23m and we were never going to go to the buy-out clause. All the rubbish that was talked about that - with people going in, they were never working on behalf of us. Never at any time did we increase our offer."
Fellaini, speaking for the first time since joining United, said he hoped to emulate some of United's most famous players and that he has no concerns over his price tag. "It's not my problem – £20m, £25m or £30m – whether you are expensive or not. Players are just players. In the past you have had Cantona, Roy Keane, Beckham – I will do my best [to match them]."
Moyes suggested there was only a remote chance that Wayne Rooneycould return from his serious head injury in Saturday's early kick-off against Crystal Palace at Old Trafford. "It's something we'll look at. I've got to [consider whether to] take the risk because you could just knock the head and it could split open because it's right down there. It's healed really well, better."
The manager joked: "Put a big headband on it? There's a possibility I could do that, we'll see what we can do. He's in great physical shape but has a cut right in the middle of his forehead. It's knitted well, we just have to see where he is in terms of his head injury."
While Phil Jones is ruled out due to an ankle problem, Moyes is hopeful that Darren Fletcher could recover from a chronic bowel condition. "Darren came back in yesterday [Thursday]. He's a long way away from being ready and we'll use the doctors and physios' advice. We'll give him little bits of football and just pick him up over the coming months and see how he goes."
13TH SEPTEMBER 2013
Surely you have to trust your players? You'd think RvP would know his body and what its capable of better then anybody. It's an odd thing to attack Moyes for.
Look through the first page on your recent posts mate. Seriously, just have a read. Perhaps you don't realise just how much anti-Moyes stuff you're posting. It's incessant, but you're not alone, and it really is getting tedious.
Honestly, this is the leading Manchester United fan forum and look at it. What happened to supporting our manager and being above all the pettiness that surrounds other clubs? We're showing ourselves to be no better at all, in fact we're increasingly looking like a bunch of spoilt, small time arses, bitching and moaning at every negative headline or quote.
We're Manchester United, we're fecking better than this. At least, we should be.
That interview was ages ago, it's all been posted on here already.'I just wanted something there' is really hilarious.
Interesting stuff about Herrera, how the hell they didn't know that Athletic Club is the most difficult club in the world to negotiate, and not that they don't accept bids, they'll make the life for you hell even if you match the bid.
In overall, happy with the interview. Mainly because we aren't going to sign Baines. On another side, baffled that we judged Fellaini to be worth of 27.5m but were never going to go for Herrera's clause which was only 3m higher.
I don't think that would be the case, I'm not so sure our appeal is only based on a Top 4 position.
I think you give the modern player to much credit.
Money, CL, Club - in that order. For most players. Those from British isles likely to be different if course - they will still see us the top club.
You're probably right, I doubt we will.Of course my recent posts are going to be on this and if i have an opinion im likely to stick to it - really don't see your point.
Look, were not going to agree. I would suggest we leave it there
Possibly, but when that club is United and the money is good enough, I think we can still attract the best.
I assumed we would try to sign someone, but I guess he and Woodward realized their failure from the summer when they talked non-stop about money being there to spend and how we'd sign the best players in the world. Before signing Fellaini with five minutes until the end of the transfer window. We were never going to sign any marquee players in January, but we should be looking for something considering the state of our midfield and completely incompetent leftback.
I think you give the modern player to much credit.
Money, CL, Club - in that order. For most players. Those from British isles likely to be different if course - they will still see us the top club.
"Would you like to play for Manchester United, one of the most successful and wealthiest clubs of all time, including the past 10 years?"
"No, they might finish fifth."
Seriously. Some of you are insane.