Mourinho to United | Officially Announced

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Attila said:
One is based on luck. Him winning titles isn't luck
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It's also not the guarantee he's acting it is either.

Regardless, winning a title doesn't mean he's a success. If he wins 1 title and gets sacked after a terrible 3rd season is he a success? Not for me - his Chelsea spell was average on the whole this time. If you think otherwise I think it's fair to say your expectations are strangely low for the supposed best manager in the world.
 
The Man Himself said:
There is difference in discussing his negatives and posting nonsense totally ignoring his achievements. I think it is pretty straightforward to see but each to his own.
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The same way ppl totally ignore his failures.
Anyway Twigginater might have some extreme opinions but calling someone who only recently was / is responsible for one of the best and most time consuming threads on the CAF a clown comes across as clownish to me.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
Your problem seems to be that you think what has happened in the past will happen again. It's pretty much the same fallacy as expecting heads when you toss a coin because the last 5 times were heads.
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Mourinho isn't a coin toss. And football isn't a random throw. we didn't hire Bielsa. This isn't a risk. he's a proven manager who has won leagues in 4 major countries.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
It's also not the guarantee he's acting it is either.

Regardless, winning a title doesn't mean he's a success. If he wins 1 title and gets sacked after a terrible 3rd season is he a success? Not for me - his Chelsea spell was average on the whole this time. If you think otherwise I think it's fair to say your expectations are strangely low for the supposed best manager in the world.
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what would Liverpool fans give for a league title?
 
Gasolin said:
So... is it official? I have seen nothing from the club. Is Jose Mourinho really the next Manchester United manager? This is a weird feeling. Someone we have despised for so many years, with Chelsea and Real Madrid (at Inter, it was less confrontational + United beat them in a C1 game if I recall), will be now the next manager... maybe a fantastic manager, who might be able to motivate again the old Rooney, who might get the best out of the youngsters OR the biggest failure of all times a la Chelsea #2 after the title.
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Never hated him when he was at Real to be honest, always assumed he'd be the one taking over from Fergie.
 
mbb8 said:
what would Liverpool fans give for a league title?
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If we do it playing shit football, not a lot (my personal opinion, the majority of Liverpool fans and football fans in general would say otherwise, I guess). Titles aren't overly important to me as a football fan.
 
united_99 said:
The same way ppl totally ignore his failures.
Anyway Twigginater might have some extreme opinions but calling someone who only recently was / is responsible for one of the best and most time consuming threads on the CAF a clown comes across as clownish to me.
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I find having problem with calling clown a clown, clownish.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
If we do it playing shit football, not a lot (my personal opinion, the majority of Liverpool fans and football fans in general would say otherwise, I guess). Titles aren't overly important to me as a football fan.
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Should he fail here I doubt he will manage in the top leagues again.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
Your problem seems to be that you think what has happened in the past will happen again. It's pretty much the same fallacy as expecting heads when you toss a coin because the last 5 times were heads.
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I don't think you can possibly be seriously proposing this analogy.
 
mbb8 said:
why is it that Mourinho has won 3 out of the 4 EPL titles for Chelsea, and Madrid's only La Liga title in the past 9 years?

why are you so bent on diminishing his accomplishments? you of all people should know, being a fan of a zombie club, how hard it is to win a league title, how easy it is to let it slip.
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Madrid supposedly broke him yet between his Madrid title win and his success with Chelsea it was 2 league titles in 4 years!
I personally think the best season he had for a while was his first season back at Chelsea. How he got that team to a CL semi final and favourites for the title with 6/7 games to go is beyond me. With that fecking strikeforce...
 
Bob Loblaw said:
If we do it playing shit football, not a lot (my personal opinion, the majority of Liverpool fans and football fans in general would say otherwise, I guess). Titles aren't overly important to me as a football fan.
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Not to go off topic but if Liverpool were to win the Premier League it would be a huge moment, it would symbolise so much for the club. The new stadium expansion, the manager, the players, the fans.

It would be dubbed a fairytale like Leicester and it would make fans say that "we're back among the greats".

It must be different when you are there winning it, tell me when Liverpool went on the run with Suarez, Sterling, Sturridge, Gerrard it wasn't good to be there.

Also lets be honest it's not "playing shit football" a league title there's always dry spells where you get some 1-0 wins that don't feel great. other times you have magical games and brilliant moments (Suarez).

Leicester this year didn't play great football a lot of the time, they counter attacked, were organised, had maybe 1/3rd possession in most games. History is written by the victors, the name is on the trophy, you can't change that.
 
cyberman said:
Madrid supposedly broke him yet between his Madrid title win and his success with Chelsea it was 2 league titles in 4 years!
I personally think the best season he had for a while was his first season back at Chelsea. How he got that team to a CL semi final and favourites for the title with 6/7 games to go is beyond me. With that fecking strikeforce...
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Torres, Eto'o, Demba Ba.
Jesus.
 
Klopper76 said:
I think there's a good chance he'll win something at United. Whether that's the league or something else remains to be seen, but he wins the league everywhere he goes so the omens are good for you.

I still don't think he'll last longer than 2-3 years. It doesn't seem like it's in his nature and it'll either unravel around him or he'll just pack up and go. This was a necessary move for United though given the uncertainty following Ferguson so it's no surprise that Mourinho is becoming the United manager as far as I'm concerned. United have to start competing and winning trophies regularly or the rot sets in and you become less relevant, dropping tiers in terms of where you're buying your players etc. If you want a recent example you can look at us following Benitez's departure. We may not have won the league during his tenure but we were at least relevant, competing in the Champions League and reaching cup finals, regularly finishing in the top four. Since he left we've played Champions League football once and never buy at the top level any more. We've gone from Alonso and Torres to Lambert and Lallana. No title challenge in the three years since Ferguson left will have got alarm bells ringing at United and they acted accordingly.

Not everyone is going to be happy about it but the alternative is fairly bleak. It'll be far from perfect but who cares if he wins you another league title?
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Good post. I agree he will probably be only here 3 years, but once Klopp, Pep, Conte and the emerging Poch were going to be around next season, United had to bring someone in with the knowledge and reputation of winning things and competing at an equal level manager wise. Woody is a businessman and like you said, once you drop a tier or two, bloody hell it's hard to get back up there. It was a no brainer that United needed to shift LVG out.
 
mbb8 said:
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This never gets old, doesn't it? :lol: every time I see it. Seems to see new things each view.

Good to see Liverpool reacts to Mourinho to United news. This celebration must be quite memorable right?
 
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Bob Loblaw said:
It's also not the guarantee he's acting it is either.

Regardless, winning a title doesn't mean he's a success. If he wins 1 title and gets sacked after a terrible 3rd season is he a success? Not for me - his Chelsea spell was average on the whole this time. If you think otherwise I think it's fair to say your expectations are strangely low for the supposed best manager in the world.
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It depends what he leaves behind. Chelsea first time, Inter and Real Madrid I think he left very good squads.

If he leaves a team at United which would be able to reach a champions league final with avram grant in charge then yeah he was a successful hire even if it was 1 title in 3 years. But I do hope for much more than that from him so I would he dissapointed if he got himself sacked in year 3.

Would lower my opinion of him as a manager as he wouldn't have the excuse of being at a club like Madrid and Chelsea where it's near impossible to be there long term due to either the ownership or excessive player power.
 
united_99 said:
Each to their own. I find posts of posters who ignore all negatives about him and act as God has come to rescue us more clownish.
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No dude.
Its just that this is the first manager we have had since SAF, who is of his level, when it comes to winning mentality.
Where Moyes finished 7th and thought he did a good job. Where LVG finished 5th and thought he did a good job. Mourinho (and Fergie) would be livid if they finished out of the top 3.
Mourinho is Fergie's replacement and it's taken 3 years.

And that's why there is so much excitement on this forum and even in the World's media. This is a huge deal.
 
RetroStu said:
Seen this gif sooo mny times but i only just noticed the guy on the left give up and walk off lol.:lol:
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lol. me too.
the amount of misery in this gif is beyond measure.
and Bob Loblaw would have you believe Liverpool want to win the league ONLY if they do it in style. :lol:
He's clearly not from Liverpool.
 
Bob Loblaw said:
He's not the manager he was though, that's beyond doubt
@Attila, 3rd or 4th next year. Same the year after, sacked in the third.
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I just noticed that Bob is a Liverpool supporter.
I can feel the hatred building amongst rival fans and we are already getting back to the way things were when Fergie was here. And I LOVE IT!!! :D

BTW Bob, Jose's coming to MUFC. And we are gonna win shed loads of trophies. Sorry bud :cool:
 
ti vu said:
This never gets old, doesn't it? :lol: every time I see it. Seems to see new things each view.

Good to see Liverpool reacts to Mourinho to United news.

This celebration must be quite memorable right?
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God. he's never looked more sexy. that homeless man outfit does him no disservice.
 
sunama said:
I just noticed that Bob is a Liverpool supporter.
I can feel the hatred building amongst rival fans and we are already getting back to the way things were when Fergie was here. And I LOVE IT!!! :D

BTW Bob, Jose's coming to MUFC. And we are gonna win shed loads of trophies. Sorry bud :cool:
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Well! I can't speak for anyone else, of course – and frankly I don't hope I do, as I don't like to be associated with all sorts of riffraff – but I for one say “hi,” to Maureen, but I follow it up with a stern (enough) “you're supposed to be good. So, be good.”

That's my welcome to him – the little rascal.
 
Attila said:
It depends what he leaves behind. Chelsea first time, Inter and Real Madrid I think he left very good squads.

If he leaves a team at United which would be able to reach a champions league final with avram grant in charge then yeah he was a successful hire even if it was 1 title in 3 years. But I do hope for much more than that from him so I would he dissapointed if he got himself sacked in year 3.

Would lower my opinion of him as a manager as he wouldn't have the excuse of being at a club like Madrid and Chelsea where it's near impossible to be there long term due to either the ownership or excessive player power.
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I disagree about him leaving behind a good squad at Inter, the average age was a problem.

Otherwise fair enough, no issues with that summary.
 
I lobve how one dodgy season and he suddenly becomes shit, forget all that he's achieved in the previouis 10 years, no that one dodgy half season makes him shit. Just like that dodgy season Klop had eh?.
Its not like Liverpool fans to forget their history is it lol. Twonks.
 
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