Did he bench Mata again then?
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I don't think so, his decision with Casillas has proven to be right so far IMO.
Although he did manage to alienate Ronaldo and Pepe at the end of his tenure in addition to the likes of Higuain and Iker.
Hmm not really, also he replaced Casillas with Lopez who is Spanish as well so wasn't a nationality thing
I guess Lopez is spanish too so i'm probably talking bollocks but thought that was an accusation levelled at him last year too.
Hasn't the new lad mostly played Lopez anyway?
But yeah, I remember all the hubbub over some Spanish/Portuguese split in the locker room, or some shite.
But yeah, I remember all the hubbub over some Spanish/Portuguese split in the locker room, or some shite.
Real's Spanish players chummy with Barca players, wasn't it?
I think so, and Moumou picking all the Portuguese to play over the Spanish(possibly in retaliation), though that was probably media exaggeration.
Yep, I could even understand Chelsea fans and their love for Mourinho, but lot of our fans here talked about him like he is the best manager of all times without anyone even being close to him, and will never forget some people here saying they would take Mourinho over another year or two of Fergie.
Had to do with Xavi & Casillas agreeing to not let club rivalry disrupt NT harmony which Mou was pushing to do and did not approve. My guess is that he doesn't trust La Roja players and likewise
Caller on 606 wants Rafa back.
Didn't watch the match but his rating was 4.6 on Eurosport. Agreed that he's a quality player though but I think Twiggs meant that there was absolute no need for him - other than snying Spurs off the deal.
Especially since Maa's bench warming
Meh, give me a break, I had lots of wine and after laying Chelsea for every game so far this season so as to ensure Im happy either way tonight was the first time I decided to lay the opponents! Lost plenty of cash too!
To be fair though, I was one giving Rafa stick, it is worth noting that he had stabilized the team eventually, and won the last 3 games ( not including the super cup) we have played. Its not just the results though, we just look devoid of anything compared the last few months of last season.
To be fair though, I was one giving Rafa stick, it is worth noting that he had stabilized the team eventually, and won the last 3 games ( not including the super cup) we have played. Its not just the results though, we just look devoid of anything compared the last few months of last season.
Is it Rafa?
Meh, it's early days. They've got some cracking players and he'll get them playing soon enough. Enjoy it while it lasts!
I think Jose needs to realise more that he hasn't got the 2004-2006 team now, he cant simply go 1-0 up and close out a win, we have the attacking players to be hammering mediocre or poorer teams, and we have to accept conceding a few goals in the process, but at present we are not scoring any and still conceding. At fulham on saturday we simply have to go in hard and not settle for 1 or 2 goals if we get any. Its wierd because it seems such a far cry from what was only a few months ago when Mata was running games for us, now he spends most of the time benched.
I said in the matchday thread Jose looks like he doesnt give a feck
The Mata one is an odd situation. It's a bit like united and Kagawa, except that Mata has been integral so it's not even debatable about why he should be given a chance.
Didn't watch the match but his rating was 4.6 on Eurosport. Agreed that he's a quality player though but I think Twiggs meant that there was absolute no need for him - other than snying Spurs off the deal.
Especially since Maa's bench warming
The bizarre bit is definitely benching Mata but if Jose really doesn't fancy him for whatever reason then it makes a lot of sense in fairness. Schurrle doesn't really look good enough to be a regular starter and aside from Hazard there's no-one else offering any pace out wide - Willian's a pacey, direct attacker that's good enough to start every week.
It's going to be interesting. Very early days but I think the challenge for Jose is getting the youngsters to develop & play. I speak under correction but at all his previous clubs, he's had the luxury of walking into pretty mature squads, experienced players who bought into his methods of hard work & discipline.
Another thing - Jose has always spoken about the effect a departing manager has on his squad. Knowing his history with Benitez, maybe it's a case of Jose trying to change too much, to fast instead of continuing with the good work Rafa did. Anyway, I'm off to bed.
Another thing - Jose has always spoken about the effect a departing manager has on his squad. Knowing his history with Benitez, maybe it's a case of Jose trying to change too much, to fast instead of continuing with the good work Rafa did. Anyway, I'm off to bed.
Why? At the time he didn't even have Lopez. He was lucky to get Lopez in January. Casillas is clearly much better than Adan.
I think this could get a bit ugly, quickly if things dont change.
Benching fan favourite and POTS Mata doesn't go down well when you are playing worse without him.
Continuously playing Schurrle when hes not playing well is also odd. Whatevers what, the second honeymoon is well and truly over.
Benching fan favourite and POTS Mata doesn't go down well when you are playing worse without him.
Continuously playing Schurrle when hes not playing well is also odd. Whatevers what, the second honeymoon is well and truly over.
Yeah, agreed on Willian. He needs to adjust but he can be a star, as he's shown at Donetsk.
I just think the triumvirate of Oscar, Mata, Hazard was building a good understanding.
It just seems insane. It's analogous to Moyes coming in and deciding he doesn't fancy Van Persie.
This isn't jose's team, and jose isn't known for adapting, he's used to having quality squads and plenty of options, this isn't the case this time, but it's a good squad nonetheless, he benches mata and loans lukaku and those are decisions he has to live with, i bet if lukaku starts regularly for everton he'd score more goals than torres and eto'o compined.
I just cant see what style of play Jose is trying to operate under that Mata doesnt suit.
Ok he may not suit blistering counterattacking football but then most of our squad doesn't.
It seems he isnt aware we dont have Carvalho, Duff, Robben,Essein(in carne) Drogba and Guhdjonsen anymore
His performances were getting worse and he was trying to use his dressing room status to dictate things ahead of the manager - it would've been a sign of weakness to keep him in the side.
Wihtout a doubt this will happen, its been happening with the players we loaned/ sold to Liverpool.
Extra incentive to want Lukaku to score lots.
Extra incentive to want Lukaku to score lots.
Can we recall him from loan at any time whatsoever?
Well that depends on which side of the story you believe..
Also I'm not sure Casillas' performances were deteriorating that much really, especially with Casillas still being Spain's number 1. Till now. Especially with the amount of competition between the Spanish keepers (Valdez, Reina, Alvez, De Gea, ...)..
So I doubt that it was something in Casillas' on-the-pitch performances that only Mourinho has picked up on.
Precisely
I've mentioned before that Mourinho has been awarded the "worst buy" award every year since he left Chelsea. Modric last year from Marca, can't remember the year before that. Queresma, Muntari and Rivas during his Inter stay. Hell remember Schevchenko, Wright Phillips and others from Chelsea?
Appalling record in the transfer market.
Who is going to win it this year
Appalling record in the transfer market.
Who is going to win it this year
#TheSpecialOnce
I can see this ending the way it did last time. Roman isn't known for his patience. He brought Jose in because he wanted guaranteed success and he backed him with £££. He won't want many more nights like this.