This is just it man. As much as I would like to think that Jose actually returned to Chelsea to complete his own dynasty and create actual history at Chelsea, I reckon he has absolutely no issue in squandering millions of Roman's fortune in an attempt to knock other teams down the pecking order. If this is indeed correct, I am delighted that he is attempting to weaken Spurs and destroy a potentially dangerous player.
Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager
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This is just it man. As much as I would like to think that Jose actually returned to Chelsea to complete his own dynasty and create actual history at Chelsea, I reckon he has absolutely no issue in squandering millions of Roman's fortune in an attempt to knock other teams down the pecking order. If this is indeed correct, I am delighted that he is attempting to weaken Spurs and destroy a potentially dangerous player.
Players and staff will soon be scrambling to cover up any Spanish ancestry they have.
Should have strengthened in the summer. The France has a lot more.weaknesses than people realise. That's why they didn't challenge last year. And yiur on reliable, top.player, you don't play.
I can I can line up a Chelsea XI better than the Special One
-----------------------------Cech----------------------------------
--Ivanovich---------Cahill-----------J.Terry-------------A.Cole----
-------------Willian--------Ramires--------Oscar-------------------
----E.Hazard--------------S.Etoo--------------------J.Mata--------
Subs: Lampard (sub when losing), F.Torres (cup matches), Schurrle, Obi Mikel, De Bryune (subs for tiring/injured midfielders). Luis is a clown.I think this is their strongest line-up.
-----------------------------Cech----------------------------------
--Ivanovich---------Cahill-----------J.Terry-------------A.Cole----
-------------Willian--------Ramires--------Oscar-------------------
----E.Hazard--------------S.Etoo--------------------J.Mata--------
Subs: Lampard (sub when losing), F.Torres (cup matches), Schurrle, Obi Mikel, De Bryune (subs for tiring/injured midfielders). Luis is a clown.I think this is their strongest line-up.
Erm.. No you can't. That team would get thrashed.
That team would not get thrashed. It just isn't ideal because Willian is a centre mid in that formation (with Oscar being more suited further forward). Even if he was though, it's not like there is no balance whatsoever there.
United once destroyed Arsenal with about 7 defenders on the pitch if you remember.
They may not win, but teams don't automatically self-destruct when one or two players are out of position.
United once destroyed Arsenal with about 7 defenders on the pitch if you remember.
They may not win, but teams don't automatically self-destruct when one or two players are out of position.You drunk?
Ramires, Willian and Oscar in midfield? Ramires will know what Carrick wen thru all these years. This team would get thumped. Probably 7-3 or similar with lots of goals.
"The Special Once"
Go home amol, you're drunk.
my ipad was out of charge so I was forced to use the htc.Yeah, that's it.
but The France has a lot more
The France? Are we talking about Arsenal now?
I never really rated him as a great manager. His first season in the EPL was great as Chelsea were playing some great football but I think we all have gotten a dose of amnesia about how he manages...his squads aren't exactly great to look at. At Madrid he was blessed with some top players so that masked his flaws a bit. Before he left Chelsea, they were a very boring team to watch.
the best thing about the Mata (and to a lesser extent torres) nonsense is that its only a mater of time before he starts kicking off if he's not in the team
so then not only are they not benefiting from his talent they'll also end up with a rift in the dressing room too.
so then not only are they not benefiting from his talent they'll also end up with a rift in the dressing room too.
I don't disagree as far as style goes. But being a bit boring (subjective category, that, be it said) doesn't mean you're not great. I think his trophy haul alone makes him a great manager in the modern era - you really can't argue with those results.
I find it increasingly strange that he doesn't see the benefits of being a little more diplomatic, though. He lives on controversy, they say. Fair enough, some great competitors do just that. But lately he's been fueling strife within his own ranks - and I just don't see the benefit. Didn't help him much at Real either.
mourinho is clearly a great manager, an egotistical prick sure, but a great manager nonetheless.
the only question is whether his ego has now grown to the point that its negatively affecting his decision making.
the jurys still out on that one for me
the only question is whether his ego has now grown to the point that its negatively affecting his decision making.
the jurys still out on that one for me
What exactly is his issue with Mata?
Maybe Mata doesn't hate Casillas and Ramos.
Drunk in the morning, Amol?
9 o'clock in the morning on a Thursday and you're drunk
Go home amol! Auditing got you by the ballls, you resorted to the bottle?
If he didn't already have a tagline, I think The France would be good.
He's a good manager but has lots of flaws. He needed plenty of luck and help from referees to win CL with Porto and Inter, and also you need to remember that during his Porto triumph they didn't even come across a top team in the competition - United were a side in transition with their best defender banned, Lyon were good but nothing spectacular and Deportivo ran out of steam after knocking Milan out. Monaco weren't up for it in the final either for some reason, didn't they lose Giuly halfway through the game too (or some other important player)?
Between 2004 and 2006 he did an excellent job at Chelsea mind. It all went wrong when they actually had any competition a year later.
I knew Mourinho's return would be less romantic than people predicted.
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Quiet you !
Quiet you !
He also got to spent around £80mil in his first summer and they also had agreed to sign Robben for 12mil.(I think that happened before he came in).
58mil and 62mil the two next summers.
I want this to go absolutely tits up for him. The worst season they could possibly have to make up for all the jammy cup victories.
Do we blame any period of another teams dominance on United being in transition? United were not in transition for 3 years.
He was always going to need 2 or 3 transfer windows to make this squad anything like his own. Its a mile away from one of his teams, and I doubt that he would have signed Hazard, Oscar, Torres or Demba Ba if he were there at the time.
The ideal scenario is Chelsea not making top 4 this season. I can't see it happening, but it would put a huge dent in his plans for the next 2/3 seasons.
The ideal scenario is Chelsea not making top 4 this season. I can't see it happening, but it would put a huge dent in his plans for the next 2/3 seasons.
Surprised people are sticking the knives in already.
I think Oscar is a Jose type signing despite him being lightweight, and thats backed by the fact Jose plays him in pretty much every game. I actually thought at first Oscar would be the one to suffer, but hes very hardworking. I hoped Jose would build the team around Oscar and Mata.
Agree that Hazard, Torres aren't his type, although Ba may have been a thought.
Don't do this. Every manager needs plenty of luck to win the Champions League and one may well argue that United were pretty lucky to win in 1999 and 2008 as well. You might even say that we didn't come across a top team in 2008: Barcelona were in transition and missing Ronaldinho in both games; Lyon and Roma were good but not spectacular and Chelsea were managed by Avram Grant.
I think we should just agree that winning the Champions League is a great achievement and winning it with Porto is even greater. No need to pick holes in Mourinho's CV, just say that he's an insufferable, egotistical prick as that cannot be denied.
We were crap between 2004 and 2006. You won it in 2010 against a good United side and so did City in 2012. Between 2004 and 2006 however United were not competitive.
Not saying it isn't but Mourinho has never been able to build a side as dominant as Guardiola's Barcelona or Heycknes' Bayern last season. Not saying it takes anything away from his achievements but the way he's been made out as a God who turns shit into gold, it's not really unreasonable to point some things out.
Yeah, that's annoying as feck. But he had plenty of failures to point at, like losing out to United in 2007 despite being regarded as overwhelming favourites or conceding four at Dortmund in a CL semi which was a bit embarassing for a man who's supposedly an expert at setting up defences and making his teams hard to beat. Or how Inter, in his first season at the club, won the league by default because of the lack of competition but they were poor in the Champions League. All these things show that not everything he does is flawless or immediately brilliant and they can be cited when pointing out that heralding Chelsea as immediate title favourites because of him was stupid. No need to start finding flaws in his actually great achievements.