Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager

Not every time, for me. There've been matches for Chelsea (including one this season, though I can't remember which off the top of my head), where he shows another gear entirely, takes the game by the scruff of the neck, and wins it almost single-handedly. The problem is that for every game like that there are three or four where he just seems to float around waiting for opportunities to dribble a bit. He doesn't have Mata's vision, which means the threat of him running at the defence is much more one-dimensional.

Schurrle is working hard to confirm everything I thought about him being too average for a club of Chelsea's ambitions.
Seems more of a Joe Cole than a Ronaldo for me!
 
I don't think this squad is that much weaker than the one in 2004. It just lacks balance, it's overloaded with quality in some areas and lacks depth in others.

Plus, the competition in the upper half of the table got much stronger since then.
 
More in comparison to the competition than anything else. Mourinho took the league by surprise by taking charge of the first modern 'money club', buying a superstar for every position. At the time everyone else was still getting away with distinctly questionable squads. United were in the Djembax2-Kleberson era, for example.

Now, on the other hand, both his title rivals and the rest of the PL clubs know how to compete against these expensively assembled super-squads.
Yep but the squad also as someone said is much weaker this time around.
 
I expect Chelsea to be in the running this campaign, but next season is where Jose will be looking to see the real fruits of his labour. I think a lot of people have basically expected him to come in and instantly turn this Chelsea side into runaway title winners. That is not a realistic expectation in all honesty. The Premier League is a lot stronger and more competitive from the one he left in 2007 and I think he has been deliberately more low key and less bullish than we are all used to, although I expect that to change if they are up there in March/April.

He played negatively at Old Trafford as I suspect he wants to protect his side from exposure, maybe harbouring suspicions over the mental strength of some of his players, something he will look to build over the course of his tenure.
 
They need a decent centreback.

They seem to have a choice of sitting so deep they can't play football, or conceding chances every time the opposition break out on them because Terry is slow, Cahill goes for balls he can't win rather than read the game, and Luiz is a complete moron.

I also don't understand what it is that Schurrle is supposed to do. I mean they looked ok today but what is it that he does?

Didn't really get why they kept makng changes when they looked like pushing to get back n the game either. The third one helped Everton a lot.

#Rafaout
 
I don't think this squad is that much weaker than the one in 2004. It just lacks balance, it's overloaded with quality in some areas and lacks depth in others.

Plus, the competition in the upper half of the table got much stronger since then.
It's much weaker man. Your central midfielder was awesome then. It's alright now.mYou had a brilliant striker upfront and now you don't. You had a watertight defence then and you have a shakey one now. No contest. You have a lot of playmakers, some of who, are still adjusting to the league but it doesn't compare to that squad.
 
It's much weaker man. Your central midfielder was awesome then. It's alright now.mYou had a brilliant striker upfront and now you don't. You had a watertight defence then and you have a shakey one now. No contest. You have a lot of playmakers, some of who, are still adjusting to the league but it doesn't compare to that squad.

Yep, the 2004 squad was beautifully balanced, and strong on all fronts. This one has some wonderful creative players but some very mediocre areas.
 
It's much weaker man. Your central midfielder was awesome then. It's alright now.mYou had a brilliant striker upfront and now you don't. You had a watertight defence then and you have a shakey one now. No contest. You have a lot of playmakers, some of who, are still adjusting to the league but it doesn't compare to that squad.


If there was one thing that the 2004/2005 Chelsea side lacked under Mourinho it was a quality striker. Lampard had an average goalscoring season by his standards that year and was still their top scorer.

Agree with most of your other points though. The defence back then was so much better, while the whole side generally had a more organised look and they were better in the centre. They arguably have a better array of creative attacking mids now, but their problem is that they have too many of them and Mourinho doesn't seem to know how to use them. The old Mourinho Chelsea side was so impressive because everyone was so organised and effective because they knew their role.

They didn't look all that impressive in the first two games, but it struck me as typical Mourinho that they weren't all that impressive but still won. Since then, they haven't and suddenly their start to the season has just been average without enough goals. Despite that, I do think that given some time Eto'o could potentially have a good season for them and provide a decent number of goals. He just needs to settle for a while first.

This Chelsea side will be one that competes, but it's going to have to stretch it's limits if it wants to win the league this year. They're lucky that us and City haven't looked incredible either.
 
Mourinho being back makes Chelsea losing infinitely sweeter just because of how he reeled all those Chelsea fans in and got them believing he was some sort of miracle worker.
 
No doubt the Mourinho fanboys crying because United did not want him have some excuses ready
 
I just don't think his heart is truly in it. Have the feeling he's waiting on the right time to join Inter.
 
Why the feck are the media making out like he's fielding a load of inexperienced kids?
 
Chelsea fan calling Mourinho a clown on 5 Live. For selling Sturridge...which wasn't his decision. :lol:

Can't make this up. Spoilt fans.
 
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Jose back is a dream, probably one that wont happen but it is a dream.

Admittedly he doesnt have the same powerful team as he did in 2004, but he is the only manager I know who SAF has a lot of respect for his skills besides Moyes and probably the only one that United fans would fear managing a rival team :smirk:

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There we go, I hate to say it but at present its looking like we should have kept Rafa. He has got consistency into our team at the end there and played Mata! Instead we are relying on relic and useless strikers.

What makes me laugh is Jose was going on about Rafa winning the EL being nothing to shout about because its a failure in Europe. Last time I checked he didnt lose at home to Basel!

:lol:
 
So I wonder what would've happened to Rafa if he lost three consecutive matches during his reign with Chelsea.
 
This stuff with Mata is bizarre. It's up there with Benitez/Gareth Barry.
 

Hopefully he's joking with that second post!

There is worse shite from some of the United fans on here though, fecking pathetic how many had their head up his arse.
 
Pundits are going out of their way to make excuses for mourinho, moyes was supposed to be the one struggling earlier in europe, idiots, just idiots.
 
Can't understand why Sky keep going on about the age of the team as if all the players are U18. Only Van Ginkel, Oscar and Hazard fell into the young player category tonight. The rest of the side is full of Champions League experience
yeah, what the hell was that about? the commentator was making it out as if the club had some noble commitment to developing young talent. those three were the only players under the age of 25 and they cost a combined £59m in transfer fees. the average age of that side tonight was 27.
 
Why would he boycott Spanish players?


It's freakin strange but it seems to be happening.

Torres, Mata and that Spanish RB have all got less than usual matches as compared to last season.
 
This defeat might signal the end of Chelsea's youth project; what a waste of 90 whole minutes...
 
Pundits are going out of their way to make excuses for mourinho, moyes was supposed to be the one struggling earlier in europe, idiots, just idiots.


They were crucifying him on 5live just now.

Blaming him for everything but particularly scathing about trying to sign Rooney (who now was never going to leave, go figure) and loaning out Lukaku.