Are you serious? Do you think the media would have ignored the press conference and the English interviews, just because he forgot to shout his stupid conspiracy theories out in the world when talking to a German journalist for about 60 seconds?
Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager
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No chance.
I think he honestly believe UEFA is against him, he's convinced of that. Otherwise how do you explain his comments on Ramires' sending off (which should have a direct red card) ?
Am saying his admission of defeat when talking to the german media and how it totally contradicted the shit he said to the english press would have been highlighted for everyone to see by the english press.
Seriously, that is such a ludicrous and incorrect review? Maybe its because you only saw it from the second half but In the first half it was even, we even looked more dangerous on the break. We hit the bar and the woodwork and Neuer made several good saves, we were much much less dominated than in the CL final and a lot on here agreed with that sentiment last night. In the second half we were dominated for a period of about 30 minutes, but we were equal to pretty much everything they had and the only time we were really backs against the wall was the second period of extra time when we had 10 men and were 2-1 up.
We comfortable matched Bayern in terms of danger and good chances if not in possession, and their shooting was awful, wayward, and dragged countless shots wide. Absolutely uncomparable to the CL final were we barely registered shots on target and posed little danger all game.
He accepted it was a 2nd yellow but then went on a stupid tangent saying if you love football, you dont spoil a final by sending someone off. He's just an idiot really but I doubt he's stupid enough to believe that UEFAs against him. His motto is to blame everyone but his own failings. I mean how how else do you explain saying the better team lost.
To be fair to mourinho, bayern are miles ahead of Chelsea in terms of quality. The fact that he ran them so close I'd a job very well done.
As for his comments, I haven't read them, but the man is a troll. He shouldn't be taken seriously.
As for his comments, I haven't read them, but the man is a troll. He shouldn't be taken seriously.
I'm punching the first guy who mentions anything moral victory related.
He doesn't need to admit defeat. He could have just said, that he's proud of his team and some more meaningless sentences and that's it. That doesn't contradict anything. If he thinks he needs to repeat the same nonsense in every interview so that it works, then he's not only classless and annoying, he's paranoid as well.
If he wanted to make the headline of a few German newspapers as well, then fair enough, I'm not sure it worked though.
Agree, just thought you had a better reason for him doing that, after you wrote "you understand why he does it"
.I didn't actually watch it. Did bayern miss lots of clear cut chances then? Because I think Chelsea were close to winning it with a man lesser on the pitch. How did bayern to get themselves into that position?
Agree, just thought you had a better reason for him doing that, after you wrote "you understand why he does it"
I thought that much was a given considering we've all known him for years now
. Part of why he does it is to take attention away from the team though, other managers have done it too. SAF once blamed the fitness of the ref 
They had loads of chances but couldnt put the ball in the net. Cech was very good too. After Chelsea went down to 10, he removed and AM and put Mikel on and they basically went to defend for their lives.
Hmm. Shows how much better we need to get going forwards to match the likes of bayern right now. We created very few openings against Chelsea.
Now he is talking about the Chelsea's financial fair play hahaha
I'm so glad the classless fecker stayed away form our club. Giving Ramires a high five after that horrible foul, saying how the worst team won, his conspiracy theories and all the other bullshit he spouts all the time. He used to be quite clever but has really become a parody of himself now. Thank you SAF for giving Moyes the job.
Wouldn't rule this out. If you talk bullshit for a lot of time, then probably you'll start believing your own bullshit.
Anyway, the reasons why I think he does this all the time are:
- he takes the pressure from his players. Even after shit performances and shit results, usually the media are talking about him, not his players.
- he is an egocentric and wants to be all the time in the middle of everything. I think he loves when media talk for him, regardless that most of the time it isn't for good.
- he loves to piss off the other fans. The majority of other teams fans dislike him, but he loves it IMO. I agree with Balu that now it isn't like before cause he failed at Madrid, but if he wins another title this year, things will be the same. Rival/Neutral fans would dislike him even more, he will enjoy that even more.
Bayern didnt even have a proper Center midfield, all of them injured. The gap between us and them is quite big atm unless we improve our CM really. But if we were to play Bayern, it'd be very different as it'd be an open game unlike the match vs Chelsea.
Chelsea leaded two times and had other chances to finish the match (Luiz and Oscar on the top of my head). On 90 minutes, Chelsea gave Bayern a hell of the match and could have easily won the game. On extra, Bayern were superior but that was to be expected considering that it was 11 vs 10 (and correctly so).
Yes, but SAF did it a few times in his career, maybe once or twice a season and not every single time he lost a game. And blaming the fitness of the refI thought that much was a given considering we've all known him for years now
is different to talking about a big UEFA conspiracy against him. His nonsense might have started out to take attention away from the team, but to me, it looks like he got used to being the headline and will do it every time to make sure the papers write about him. He doesn't care anymore if it's good or bad for the team, or has any effect at all.That's why he started out as a well respected coach with weird behavior, but became a laughing stock in recent years. He's of course still a great manager, no doubt about that and I would be surprised if he wasn't successful at Chelsea.
You obviously didnt watch last nights match the, were you watching a Re-run of the final?
the 1st goal was a against the run of play and the 2nd a poor bit of goalkeeping from Neuer. Chelsea did all they could defensively but Bayern were clearly the better team and all over them for majority of the game, specially the 2nd half onwards.
Yes, but SAF did it a few times in his career, maybe once or twice a season and not every single time he lost a game. And blaming the fitness of the ref
That's why he started out as a well respected coach with weird behavior, but became a laughing stock in recent years. He's of course still a great manager, no doubt about that and I would be surprised if he wasn't successful at Chelsea.
I was just bringing out an incident to say other managers have done it too to back up what I was saying is one of the reasons. No other top manager does it anywhere close to Mourniho's rate. He's become a parody now tbh.
I think at full strength, Bayern would have won comfortably.
I thought Chelsea were really good yesterday, don't think there was much between both teams, both goalkeepers made brilliant saves and looked at fault for one goal, both teams created chances. It could have gone either way. But I highly doubt the game tells anything about how strong both teams will look like between March and May next year, when all the titles are decided. It was just a very entertaining football match and the rivalry between Mourinho and Guardiola as well as the CL final in 2012 (I really can't remember it ever happening, but for some reason, wikipedia says there was a game played out that night) made it more intense than those glorified friendlies usually are.
Completely disagree. Chelsea were equal to Bayern during the ninety minutes.
Agree with this, though Bayern this season isn't looking as strong as in the last one when they were much more direct. Still early though, and likely Pep will make them better than they were in these matches of this season.
Yeah, thats what i was watching.
Anyways, I thought the 1st half was very even. Chelsea scored against the run of play but their plan was to play on the counter so it cant be held against them. 2nd half onwards was Bayern dominating the game though.
Finally some sense rather than bitter drivel. I love the bit about the first goal being against the run of play despite the fact we actually started the stronger, and the goal was in the 8th minute anyway!
Then the bit about the second goal being poor goalkeeping from Nueur, conveniently forgetting that their first goal was poor goalkeeping from Cech. Last season and the season before we won games after being totally dominated and not having many chances, some of you seem desperate to make out that was still the case, however last night if you look at the game from a non bias viewpoint, notice that we hit the bar twice, and comfortably equaled their dangerous attacks, ( not just shots that were a yard wide) and matched them with 10 men you will realise that actually we are completely different.
Okay, guess we saw it differently. I only thought the 1st 45mins were equally contested.
bayern not having any of their 1st choice CMs was a big factor to it though. Had Schweinsteiger and MArtinez started, it'd have been much less of a contest.(Just in response to Amol saying its credit to mourinho to run bayern close considering the gap in the teams)
If Chelsea did match bayern over the 90 mins they should be extremely happy with that given the gap in quality. Mourinho should be playing his teams chances for the title down. He seems to really believe in them a bit too much.
Btw. how does Mourinho make those 10men teams look stronger than 11men teams? Is there any manager out there, who always instantly finds the right solution to keep the team playing brilliantly when a player is sent off besides Mourinho? Okay, he has to do it more often in big games than any other manager, so it's no surprise he's better at it, but still, it's incredible. Bayern seemed in control and I never thought we could loose the game, until Ramires got sent off and Chelsea became more dangerous again for a while. Sure, after the second goal it changed again, but between the red card and Chelsea's 2-1, for those 10-15 minutes we didn't look like the better team.
I laughed out loud when he said the best team lost; they parked the bus and didn't get away with it.
Yeah but come on, they had 10 men for ages and one of their key players sent off. Look at how we crumbled against Bayern and Madrid so easily after the Rafael and Nani sendings off, then all had a good cry about it becuase it turned the game. But Chelsea last night looked solid and organised, they even scored a cracking goal again. Peps Bayern were getting desperate and aimlessly hoisted in 3 or 4 crossses right at the end, all cleared until one fell to them for the goal.
People are too obsessed with possession and shot attempt count. Chelsea had better cances and defending is part of the game too. Sure Cech played well too but so did Neuer and as said, 10 men. I wanted the little swede head to lose badly, even if they are an English team but with 11 men it was in the bag for Chelsea imo. Also don't think the gap between them will be big at all as some above said, on paper in terms of fancy names maybe but reality, no. Chelsea have enough top players themselves and Mourinho will get them playing as a team, as shown last night and we've not even started the season properly yet.
Was funny listening to Townsend groan when the goal went it though. Pleased for penalties as always, just wish the game was spoiled a bit with the red earlier on.
Oh and Varun above is talking rubbish.
Ramires was sent off in the 85th minute, it was 1-1 at the time and Bayern were comfortably in control of the game in the second half. Chelsea were dangerous in the first half, but didn't create much in the second. There was nothing in the bag for anyone at the time of the red card, certainly not for Chelsea, that's just wrong. You make it sound like Bayern needed the red card to get back in the game, which is nonsense.
I changed my mind, I guess I am a bit pissed over Mourinho's comments.
Quotes by Mourinho after the game:
"There is a passion for football and if you are in love with the game, you don't kill a final with a second yellow card like this,"
"For me, yes, (the player should not have been punished) because there were many other yellow cards during the match which the referee didn't give."
"A good English referee would have stopped the game and told Ramires: 'Look, you've not hurt anyone but you mustn't do that again.' Or tell the Bayern players: 'Don't dive. Don't try and provoke. Play a fair game.'"
Out for a few weeks with a laceration of the capsule. I guess only in Mourinho's mind you could call that, not hurting anyone. Or even better, he'd really tell an injured player who got fouled really hard a few seconds ago, he shouldn't dive and play fair, yeah, that's the way a good referee would handle that situation.
Quotes by Mourinho after the game:
"There is a passion for football and if you are in love with the game, you don't kill a final with a second yellow card like this,"
"For me, yes, (the player should not have been punished) because there were many other yellow cards during the match which the referee didn't give."
"A good English referee would have stopped the game and told Ramires: 'Look, you've not hurt anyone but you mustn't do that again.' Or tell the Bayern players: 'Don't dive. Don't try and provoke. Play a fair game.'"
Out for a few weeks with a laceration of the capsule. I guess only in Mourinho's mind you could call that, not hurting anyone. Or even better, he'd really tell an injured player who got fouled really hard a few seconds ago, he shouldn't dive and play fair, yeah, that's the way a good referee would handle that situation.
I changed my mind, I guess I am a bit pissed over Mourinho's comments.
Quotes by Mourinho after the game:
"There is a passion for football and if you are in love with the game, you don't kill a final with a second yellow card like this,"
"For me, yes, (the player should not have been punished) because there were many other yellow cards during the match which the referee didn't give."
"A good English referee would have stopped the game and told Ramires: 'Look, you've not hurt anyone but you mustn't do that again.' Or tell the Bayern players: 'Don't dive. Don't try and provoke. Play a fair game.'"
Out for a few weeks with a laceration of the capsule. I guess only in Mourinho's mind you could call that, not hurting anyone. Or even better, he'd really tell an injured player who got fouled really hard a few seconds ago, he shouldn't dive and play fair, yeah, that's the way a good referee would handle that situation.
It was a stupid challenge, to be fair, considering that Ramires was first to the ball.
Jose is obviously wrong here.