I think Jose may have set himself a goal of knocking us off our perch.
Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager
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All Moyes has to do is not react. It's actually remarkably easy not to be drawn into mind games.
I just hope we go out and do the business on the pitch tonight. Then hopefully the smug 1 will be quiet for a week or so.
This.
Chelsea have been doing their usual circus routine, we've been under the radar. Hopefully that'll count for something.
Nah I just think he's trying to bully the "relatively inexperienced" manager at United. Whether it's to prove a point of not getting offered the job or jose just being. 'special', I don't know.
I certainly don't think if Ancelotti was in charge he'd be talking about 'our manager" this much.
Absolutely. No response from Moyes/United is golden.
I just hope we tear them a new one tonight.
Come on Moyes!
We have the capacity to beat them.
However, Avram Grant on SSN just said that Chelsea now have the better squad, so what do I know...
I read somewhere that City didn't want him anywhere near them either.
he was probably too "assholistic" for their owners.
Good old Avram Grant. In parts they do.
Defence - is a tough one, but we'll shade it.
Midfield - them.
Strikers - us.
From where we're sitting it sure seems that way and yet we see reactions all the time. Perhaps it's a combination of the narcissism needed to be a footie manager and the pressure they live under. Mourinho never misses a trick, he's obviously gonna test the waters.
He would hardly stay at Chelsea for more than 4 years.
Fair.
But Moyes just strikes me as the calculated sort himself and I don't see him getting drawn in.
Last season, Suarez scored in the Merseyside derby and dived in celebration in front of Moyes, who stood motionless, hands in pockets. After the game, when he was asked what he thought, he said it was funny.
You rate?
I think, especially if we count wingers as midfielders, they're quite a bit stronger than us, but as you mentioned it is opinions at the end of the day.
The team who performs best as a unit will win - also I think Carrick/Cleverley is a bit better than Mikel/Lampard or Mikel/Ramires.
Individually though, I'd say:
Mikel < Carrick
Lampard > Cleverley for now
Ramires > Anderson
Hazard > Nani (based on last season)
Mata > Kagawa
van Ginkel < Giggs as a CM (haven't seen too much of v G)
de Bruyne, Willian, Schurrle vs Young, Valencia, Zaha
Too many people are classifying their attacking midfielders as midfielders. I'm seeing analysis including the likes of Hazard, which is a nonsense, because we wouldn't include Nani.
IMO, we have Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson against Mikel, Lampard, Ramires and Essien. I'd honestly take our trio. Our problem is clearly that we lack one additional class act in there. But I don't look at their midfield enviously.
Hard to say whether Carrick and Clevelrey are better than Ramires and Lampard. Our duo probably has the best of the bunch but it also has the worst. We still need to see Cleverley perform consistently over a period of time. He started last season well but really fell to pieces in the second half of the season. So yeah I'll go with Chelsea's as of now. At least their two are proven players at the highest level.
I agree with that. Essien isn't half the player he use to be. Mikel...is Mikel. Ramires doesn't seem to be rated (I might be wrong) - though I rate him as a box to box. Like I said, individually they seem stronger, but as a unit, I'd have Carrick/Cleverley over any one of their CM combinations.
Also, there's really nowhere else to "classify" wingers, other then midfield. You could just classify them all as attackers or attacking mids, I guess.
The amount of shit our club got for making a bid of £28 million for Fellaini and Baines, and he has pretty much got away with playing mind game after mind game about Rooney. This is getting beyond ridiculous now, can't wait until the transfer window ends so he can shut the feck up about it.
Nothing tough about the defence. We have better options than Chelsea. I'm surprised Mourinho has not brought in another centre back as Cahill/Terry/Luiz is hardly Terry/Gallas/Carvahlo.
True.
I was trying to be kind. But at fullback, which is part of the defence, it's a bit closer IMO.
I disagree. I think we have a better starting pairing and more depth. Elsewhere it's closer.
Well, either way, lets just hope we can stuff them tonight.
No it isn't.
So how do you take great comfort in knowing he wanted the Unite job? No one knows whether he wanted it of not. It's getting incredibly boring and tedius with United fans convincing themselves he wanted it, despite not having a clue.
Also how do you know Roman is calling the shots? Your post is based on what you want to think.
He was definitely like this when he went, he was really obnoxious with the press, most of them were glad to see the back of him, then he comes back and they all love him again.
Agreed. Pity Hernandez and Nani are injured. I could have seen both as being very useful tonight. Chelsea can't handle Hernandez.
Okay, you're entitled to your opinion.
Seeing as you've offered up no further comment, I guess there's no debate to be had.
Where else will he go? He's already run away from the bright lights in Spain because he couldn't succeed. He's probably comfortable at a smaller club where the pressures aren't so high. There are some clubs bigger than his ego, including this one.
If we win tonight, our luck it will be by a dodgy decision and Jose and the media will be on their joint high horse. Will it bother me, will it hell as like.
He like money, so if PSG or Monaco are available he will go there. He will also be hoping for Pep to fail so he can get his mucky little mitts on them.
Inter's president Moratti said recently that Mourinho will return to Inter in 3 years:
http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/20/jose-...-in-three-years-says-massimo-moratti-3890893/
http://metro.co.uk/2013/07/20/jose-...-in-three-years-says-massimo-moratti-3890893/
Martin Atkinson giving us a dodgy penalty and John Terry or Ivanovic getting sent off. Sweet, or Petr Cech getting sent off, another good one.
To be fair, the only way he could make it more obvious he wanted the United job was if he'd turned up outside Old Trafford in May with "Please hire me Sir Alex" tattooed across his stomach. It's painfully obvious, to the point he'd be best just shutting up about United. Which he wont, because for as long as he keeps giving stupid answers, the media will keep asking him about it.
Whether he just wasn't offered the job or had already agreed to join Chelsea I neither know nor care. I'm just glad it didn't come to pass. If he'd got the job there'd be loons on here lapping up every single thing he did, and defending his spaztardery until the end, before no doubt blaming the manager after him for the mess he'd inevitably create.
The problem is there's this aura some people have of him where they just perceive everything he does or says to be some kind of mystical genius, even when it's blatantly him being a bit of a child and has little or no thought to it...like when he accused Unicef of fixing football against Real Madrid...or that weird egg basket rant just before he walked out on Chelsea the last time.
It is difficult to see Mr. Abramovich and Mr. Mourinho's ego complimenting. At the moment, it is marriage of convenience. Mourinho was out of job from Madrid anyhow and Chelsea fans were turning on owner after Benitez appointment and all the plastic banners were quite pathetic thing to happen. So, this appointment suits both. You seriously think Abramovich will hesitate pulling trigger again sometime?
Besides, Moratti claimed last month that Mourinho informed him that he will be back in Inter in 3 years time. Things can easily change, but Inter is the only club Mourinho loves apart form Chelsea according to his admission. He has also talked about being Portugal national coach before retiring.
To knock us off our perch, Mourinho requires minimum 17 years. He won't even be in management that long, forget at Chelsea.
I think its was obvious for a long time with the way he spoke about the club, it was as obvious as ronaldo wanting to leave for madrid, culminating in his audition during the champions league ties. Regardless, if you choose to believe he didnt want it then at the very least I enjoy knowing it would have hit his ego not being offered either way.
Regarding Abramovich, I think chelseas signings alone this season are proof that Roman still likes playing with his favorite toy. Players were bought before Mourinho had even sat down and the Willian transfer is inexplicable.
Finally, the two points you made might suggest my post is based on what I want to think but you ignored the bulk of it, which is based on alot more than that.
Yeah, having Hernandez off the bench would have been a great option, he always looks like scoring against them.
dodgy decision
A Rooney "dive" to win it, would work wonders as well.
Can we rename this thread to "attention seeking whore"?
And there was that thread in winter where lots of people here said they would take Fergie leaving few years early just to have Mourinho as a manager this year.
And there was that thread in winter where lots of people here said they would take Fergie leaving few years early just to have Mourinho as a manager this year.
His "mind games" have been pretty weak to be honest. Several contradictions that have been completely ignored by the press as well, just so they can print something 'juicy'.
Can we rename this thread to "attention seeking whore"?
And there was that thread in winter where lots of people here said they would take Fergie leaving few years early just to have Mourinho as a manager this year.
Had he been our manager, many would have been supporting each sentence of his. That's the way it goes in football.