Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager

He's after De Gea, obviously.
 
This pic has amazing potential.

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Anyone know much about this 'Dutch wonder kid' hes supposed to be signing? Must admit i'm a bit underwhelmed with the transfer activity so far. Recalling Lukaku and Kevin Dee Buryne seems like no brainers, but we still need a defender ( is Mangala good enough) and more importantly a world class striker. I cant see us anywhere near the title next season without a world class striker and it looks like we've missed out on the main two so far.
 
Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho claims he knew months ago of Sir Alex Ferguson's plans to stand down as Manchester United boss, but says he was always intent on returning to Stamford Bridge.

Ferguson, 71, left Old Trafford last month after 26 years in charge and has since been replaced by David Moyes.


Mourinho said: "I knew that Ferguson was retiring many months ago. I would have turned down every job in the world - the Manchester United job, everyone - for Chelsea."

The Portuguese, who won the Premier League twice during his first spell in charge at Chelsea, has signed a four-year deal at Stamford Bridge after leaving Real Madrid. Mourinho, 50, had long been linked with replacing Ferguson at United but insists that he was only interested in a return to Chelsea - despite being told of Ferguson's plans.

"I am so happy with his [Ferguson's] trust because it was big news for the world - I can imagine that just a very small circle around him knew that, and it was a big responsibility for me to know that. Why do I know that? Because we are friends, so if I am his friend to know that he is going to retire, he is also my friend to know that the club I want to coach in England is Chelsea. Of course I told him I want to come to Chelsea. I would turn down every job in the world for Chelsea."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22924243
 
Mourinho's massive ego got bruised and he's feeding the media these stories to try to save face. He got overlooked. Full stop.

The idea that SAF told Mourinho about his decision before he told his brother (who wasn't happy he hadn't been told) and his kids seems a bit far fetched. If he did it would probably have only been an attempt to stop Mou looking like a tit, by openly flirting for a vacancy he was never going to fill.

SAF had dinner with Pep in NY too, funny how Pep doesn't come telling the media what they supposedly discussed.

Sir Bobby in December:
For Charlton, who embodies the values of the club better than anyone, Mourinho's antics last season do not befit a United manager.
One of the most uncomfortable entries on an ever-lengthening charge sheet was Mourinho's gouging of the eye of Tito Vilanova, then Barcelona's assistant coach, in the 2011 Spanish Super Cup. "A United manager wouldn't do that," Charlton says. "Mourinho is a really good coach but that's as far as I would go really. He's the manager of Real Madrid and we expect to play them in the Champions League by the end of the season."
When it is put to him that it is difficult to imagine a United manager being allowed to get away with some of Mourinho's behaviour, Charlton says: "You are right. He pontificates too much for my liking. He's a good manager, though."
But Ferguson admires Mourinho. "He doesn't like him too much, though," Charlton shoots back.

In the word of the Old Trafford faithful back in March: "Sit down Mourinho".
 
Yeah I'm pretty confident he hasn't just outright lied and completely made up the fact that Fergie personally told him months ago because their level of trust is that high or because they are good friends. It would be a really weird thing to lie about. I don't think it's really believable that this is Mourinho lying about being told, because he is pissed United didn't take him on...That sounds a bit retarded.
 
Yeah I'm pretty confident he hasn't just outright lied and completely made up the fact that Fergie personally told him months ago because their level of trust is that high or because they are good friends. It would be a really weird thing to lie about. I don't think it's really believable that this is Mourinho lying about being told, because he is pissed United didn't take him on...That sounds a bit retarded.

That bit can obviously be true without the next sentence being true.

I think it's obvious he will deny that he ever wanted the United job, whether he did or he didn't is irrelevant because if he didn't Chelsea fans would be on his back.

He's not stupid.
 
I don't give a shit if he would have preferred the Man United job.

I'm sure my girlfriend would rather be going out with Ryan Reynolds but it does not bother me.


Great point there actually. Who cares.
 
I can't wait for the season to start. This Chelsea team is not as good as his previous teams and the rest of the top teams have improved. This is going to be a interesting season.
 
Roman hasn't started his spending spree yet.


Even with new signings they have to adapt etc. I meant the core of this team is not as strong as his previous team. They had a strong spine one of the best teams of the last 10 years.
 
oh god, the Chelsea kids are going to be wanking themselves silly over this story.
 
Even with new signings they have to adapt etc. I meant the core of this team is not as strong as his previous team. They had a strong spine one of the best teams of the last 10 years.

He created that spine once, he didn't exactly inherit it. The likes of Terry and Lampard improved massively under Mourinho and the winning mentality and resilience that were that core had all of his hallmarks on it.

As for the claim that he wanted the Chelsea job over the United one - if he had courted United in the manner in which numerous United fans seem to believe, why would he come out and say something like this instead of just keeping quiet? It would undermine him if it later transpired (and it would be fairly easy to prove) that he had made contact with regards to taking it.
 
Oh. So Mourinho would have turned United down
Very easy to say when they didn't offer you the job in the first place
 
He created that spine once, he didn't exactly inherit it. The likes of Terry and Lampard improved massively under Mourinho and the winning mentality and resilience that were that core had all of his hallmarks on it.

As for the claim that he wanted the Chelsea job over the United one - if he had courted United in the manner in which numerous United fans seem to believe, why would he come out and say something like this instead of just keeping quiet? It would undermine him if it later transpired (and it would be fairly easy to prove) that he had made contact with regards to taking it.


Terry and Lampard where in their early 20's so yes I will agree they improved under him but Terry was player of the year in 00-01 and is Chelsea through and through and Lampard was showing he would be a good goal scoring midfielder from his West Ham days. It was not ground breaking that he made Terry captain or that Lampard became a key player. The same way that if Jones and lets say Cleverley became key players for Moyes I wouldn't say he 'made' them because they where on that trajectory. Mourinho is a terrific man manager and has a good understanding of tactics. He is a leader imo he could have excelled in many fields. I know he is loved by Chelsea fans but a few managers could have come in and done a good job with his resources and United in rebuilding phase.

I'm not really fussed about him wanting the job hence why i'm not really in that debate, but there is no way he could join Chelsea and then say he always wanted the United job. He is a arrogant man he wants to be connected with the best the most prestigious an in this country that is Manchester United it is not hard to imagine he was interested as well as a being a manager who would relish taking over from Fergie he loves a challenge. I don't understand how it would undermine him saying he didn't want the United job who is going to reveal it Fergie, David Gil or Sir Bobby? They don't need to come out and say he is lying they will all know the truth. I don't think he wanted the job desperately as some say but was he interested? most definitely. I believe he is happy to coach Chelsea, the fans love him and they are one of the best teams in Europe. But the rumours are there refuting them is a way to further endear himself to Chelsea fans.
 
I believe him. Maureen came back to England because he loves the feeling of being loved - and he was definitely loved at Chelsea.
I think he wants to be wanted (not the same as loved.) He expected United to want him; when that didn't happen, he tried to save face by going where he is loved (a bit like Lindsay settling for Nick after she couldn't get Daniel - anyone get the reference?)
 
does anyone else think this will the first of endless ways mourinho will try to unsettle and undermine moyes. a way of saying ferguson told him because he wanted to approach him for the job meaning moyes was not first choice. and trying to do so without pissing off ferguson. im probably reading too much into it but either way im not looking forward to this wanker back in the league. id have had him at united because i think hed conduct himself differently with us but he'll be unsufferable at chelsea and all the same idiots will laugh along and think he's amazing.
 
does anyone else think this will the first of endless ways mourinho will try to unsettle and undermine moyes. a way of saying ferguson told him because he wanted to approach him for the job meaning moyes was not first choice. and trying to do so without pissing off ferguson.

2+2=5.
 
It is beneath you and please, don't call yourself a cretin.


i see it.

anyway, there was a time when i thought mourniho would be a good appointment as he tends to be successful at least in the short term which is needed in life post alex. the appointment of moyes however has just felt logical from day one and we can count ourselves lucky to be such a well run club. it'll be comforting to see we made the right call every time mourinho disgraces the club he "wanted".
 
does anyone else think this will the first of endless ways mourinho will try to unsettle and undermine moyes. a way of saying ferguson told him because he wanted to approach him for the job meaning moyes was not first choice. and trying to do so without pissing off ferguson. im probably reading too much into it but either way im not looking forward to this wanker back in the league.

I think the whole 'Ronaldo is uncoachable' rubbish was the same thing.
 
It is beneath you and please, don't call yourself a cretin.

I certainly think that Mourinho will be the most adept at the "mind games" now that Fergie is gone. Say what you want about Mourinho but he is far from a cretin. Highly intelligent.
 
Didn't know whether this merited a new thread, so am putting it here...

How different would Jose's career had been if Howard didn't fumble that ball against Porto? There was also an offside Scholes goal that should have counted....

If Porto had lost that game, would he still have risen to the top of the game so quickly? He probably wouldn't have got the Chelsea job...

He is a brilliant manager - don't get me wrong, but I often wonder how such small breaks (1 fumble) can make or break a career. Think Jose would have had a much longer route to the top without it. Thoughts?
 
Didn't know whether this merited a new thread, so am putting it here...

How different would Jose's career had been if Howard didn't fumble that ball against Porto? There was also an offside Scholes goal that should have counted....

If Porto had lost that game, would he still have risen to the top of the game so quickly? He probably wouldn't have got the Chelsea job...

He is a brilliant manager - don't get me wrong, but I often wonder how such small breaks (1 fumble) can make or break a career. Think Jose would have had a much longer route to the top without it. Thoughts?


He'd won the UEFA cup the season before so it isn't like he was an unknown before the United match. I actually think he would still have been a strong contender for the Chelsea job and possibly still got it if they had went out. His profile was relatively high within football, flavour of the month to an extent, and I imagine narrowingly going out to United wouldn't have been a mark against him in any way. Also pretty much every Porto manager seems to be linked to bigger jobs as long as they win the league, so I imagine he would have been fine.

What I do think could be debated is whether he would have been anywhere near as successful at Chelsea if he hadn't won it. He would not have been able to justify the 'Special One' tag and could have had issues with players not respecting him etc.

It could be asked for all managers though. Fergie at Aberdeen, had John Hewitt not come off the bench to save them in their Cup winners Cup run in 83 then perhaps United wouldn't have chosen him.
 
Didn't know whether this merited a new thread, so am putting it here...

How different would Jose's career had been if Howard didn't fumble that ball against Porto? There was also an offside Scholes goal that should have counted....

If Porto had lost that game, would he still have risen to the top of the game so quickly? He probably wouldn't have got the Chelsea job...

He is a brilliant manager - don't get me wrong, but I often wonder how such small breaks (1 fumble) can make or break a career. Think Jose would have had a much longer route to the top without it. Thoughts?



While it's valid, it's all if's and but's I suppose. We know about the infamous goal which apparently saved Fergie's career. It is quite interesting to wonder though where certain players/managers would be in the game had it not been for certain events.