Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager

There's no point even concerning yourself with the things he's said. A section of the press basically just allow him to pass off any old nonsense he wants and he's brassy enough that he'll just blatantly lie about anything.
 
The reason Di Matteo's announcement of being made full time manager was delayed for so long last season is that Mourinho was on the verge of signing a contract in the summer of 2012. This deal will have been tied up long ago, he hinted many times over the course of the season where he would be returning (before Ferguson retired) and poo-pooed links to Old Trafford in the MUTV interview with Crerand. I'm not saying that he wouldn't have been interested in the job, but some sections of the media and some United fans were absolutely convinced that his whole career was gearing up for the be all and end all of replacing Ferguson - without a scintilla of evidence to support it. He loves London, he owns a house here and his daughter is at college here. There are plenty of contributory factors other than "MUFC are MASSIVE - ergo he is desperate for the job".

It smacks of arrogance and assumptiveness to me.
Mourinho signed a new 4/5 year contract at Madrid around March 2012, Madrid wouldn't have let him go last summer either so how he was supposedly close to signing a contract for you lot I don't understand. From what was reported he decided he wanted out of Madrid early in 2012 before doing a U-turn.
 
Why is there so much interest in which job he 'wanted if offered?'

For what its worth from every source i've read he always wanted to go back to Chelsea and never set United as a destination. Are some United fans actually taking that as some kind of insult?

From Eurosport today.

'The Times goes with his entirely unsurprising claim that he really did want the Chelsea job, not Manchester United.'


I think it's more like you Chelsea lot are getting overly sensitive over any suggestion that Chelsea wasn't his first choice. There's a fair chance he wanted to go to United but wasn't offered the job, plenty of sources have said so, it's you who has difficulty accepting that possibility.
 
I think it's more like you Chelsea lot are getting overly sensitive over any suggestion that Chelsea wasn't his first choice. There's a fair chance he wanted to go to United but wasn't offered the job, plenty of sources have said so, it's you who has difficulty accepting that possibility.

Ey? I have hardly studied it whatsoever, all i'm going on is interviews and papers, and since it was being discussed I pointed out some of what was said. Personally I couldn't care less whether Chelsea was his first choice or 50th choice, fact is we have him.
 
It isn't exactly a RedCafe perception that Jose wanted the United job. The press have been saying it for years.
To be fair to the resident chavs that's not true though. Much of the speculation came after the Madrid - United games and his praise for them afterwards.

Not saying there isn't any truth to the matter, mind, as I too believe he wouln't have hesitated if he had been offered the job at the time.
 
If given the choice between Manchester United and Chelsea it's obvious who he (and anyone else) would choose. One is the biggest club in the world and the other a billionaire's play thing. United are better off without him though. Long term that will be evident.
 
There is a difference between saying that Mourinho would have accepted the Man Utd job, even if the Chelsea job was up for grabs (which I think is both perfectly reasonable and true) and what some people on here have been saying for a while, which is that Mourinho sees the Man Utd job almost as a 13 year old girl sees Brad Pitt or something. Completely and utterly starstruck.

The man is one of the best managers in the world. I can completely agree that he would have gone to Man Utd but this perception that he was absolutely gagging for it, literally begging the Man utd board. Nah.
 
It is odd though, a lot of mutual respect between SAF and Mourinho, and Mourinhos very good CV, yet it appears that SAF didn't really consider him an option to take over from him. I don't think Mourinho was desperate for the Utd job, though I do agree that he would've jumped at it and that it must've played on his mind why SAF would seemingly prefer Moyes over him, and led to a bit of self analysing.

I think we'll see a different Mourinho this time round, probably just as sucessful but much less self centred.
 
I reckon he will stay there for at least 5 years. Where else is there to go really? He has been all over Europe he can't manage Barca, AC, Us or even City. He will be in for the long haul. This is the side of him I want to see. Building a team, integrating talented youngsters not just throwing money at problem positions. Chelsea have a lot of young talent and at least a couple should make it so let's see how he does. He will win trophies he is a winner but what he has done over the last 10 years a few managers could have a managed.
 
I reckon he will stay there for at least 5 years. Where else is there to go really? He has been all over Europe he can't manage Barca, AC, Us or even City. He will be in for the long haul. This is the side of him I want to see. Building a team, integrating talented youngsters not just throwing money at problem positions. Chelsea have a lot of young talent and at least a couple should make it so let's see how he does. He will win trophies he is a winner but what he has done over the last 10 years a few managers could have a managed.

That's not necessarily in his hand because you have to consider another factor: Roman.
 
That's not necessarily in his hand because you have to consider another factor: Roman.


I think he will bring enough success that he will not ever really be under SO much pressure, plus he has stored up goodwill. Hopefully Roman has learned his lesson, a few of his sackings where shocking also. He really is the kind of owner you would hate to have, it was a club with a more prestigious history than Chelsea fans would not be so happy, but he has made them relevant. I think the fact he has brought back Mourinho is testament to the fact he realises he made a mistake.
 
If Mourinho goes at least three seasons without winning neither the CL or the PL, he'll be sacked again. I'm pretty sure of that.

I also don't think that his return is going to be as magical as Chelsea fans might be imagining. There's still a lot of improvement to be made to the current Chelsea squad and I don't think that Jose will be given as much transfer funds as the last time around.
 
Despite all that has been opined, you do have to wonder how much leash Roman will give Jose and whether Jose can sustain the kind of poor run that Di Matteo endured before he got sacked. I'm not convinced that Roman would not blow his top if Jose goes on a 3-4 game losing streak, especially if Roman coughs up another net 150m on new players.

We shall see.
 
Ey? I have hardly studied it whatsoever, all i'm going on is interviews and papers, and since it was being discussed I pointed out some of what was said. Personally I couldn't care less whether Chelsea was his first choice or 50th choice, fact is we have him.


Studied it? What on earth are you on about? Seriously.

Enjoy Jose, like I say you are made for each other.
 
If Mourinho goes at least three seasons without winning neither the CL or the PL, he'll be sacked again. I'm pretty sure of that.

I also don't think that his return is going to be as magical as Chelsea fans might be imagining. There's still a lot of improvement to be made to the current Chelsea squad and I don't think that Jose will be given as much transfer funds as the last time around.


:lol: You think Roman will give Mourinho 3 seasons without either the league or the CL? He'll probably be off at the end of the season if he pulls off a season like that.
 
I reckon he will stay there for at least 5 years. Where else is there to go really? He has been all over Europe he can't manage Barca, AC, Us or even City. He will be in for the long haul. This is the side of him I want to see. Building a team, integrating talented youngsters not just throwing money at problem positions. Chelsea have a lot of young talent and at least a couple should make it so let's see how he does. He will win trophies he is a winner but what he has done over the last 10 years a few managers could have a managed.
Not a chance, he'll be the coach of a German or the Portuguese national team long before that.
 
He'll do two or three years at Chelsea I reckon. And probably deliver two Premier League titles and a Champions League.
 
Not a chance, he'll be the coach of a German or the Portuguese national team long before that.


hahahaha who in Germany? He could only manage Bayern you really see him following Guardiola? He's still too young for international football. He will be at Chelsea for a while.
 
hahahaha who in Germany? He could only manage Bayern you really see him following Guardiola? He's still too young for international football. He will be at Chelsea for a while.

What makes you think Mourinho will suddenly become a long term manager, especially when he has a past with his current owner?
 
What makes you think Mourinho will suddenly become a long term manager, especially when he has a past with his current owner?


He has literally been everywhere that he can go. Few jobs left for him out there. He will stay here for a few years. Like he said he wanted to experience football all over Europe and he has. He could go to Inter but in their current state? No way they would need to be spending. This team will always compete with him at the helm. The owner knows what he is getting with Mourinho.
 
To be fair to the resident chavs that's not true though. Much of the speculation came after the Madrid - United games and his praise for them afterwards.

Not saying there isn't any truth to the matter, mind, as I too believe he wouln't have hesitated if he had been offered the job at the time.

Some of the English press have been saying for years that Mou wanted the United job. Certain factions of the press claimed that is why he would not join City.
 
The man is one of the best managers in the world. I can completely agree that he would have gone to Man Utd but this perception that he was absolutely gagging for it, literally begging the Man utd board. Nah.


I don't think anyone in the world would look at the United managerial position and want to see themselves doing what Alex Ferguson has done. I think it would have fit Mourinho. A place to call 'home'. I get the feeling that he's always really wanted that. Chelsea with the rocky relationship with Abramovic, Inter with the agenda and the board wanting him gone, the complete circus that is Real Madrid and their playing group that you would never be able to win over.

If you compare the playing groups and the structure of United and Chelsea even as a rival fan and in an attempt to be somewhat neutral; Would you want to manage at Chelsea?

edit: Incidentally the heraldry that Mourinho commands among the club and fans is nothing to be sneezed at as well.
 
I don't think anyone in the world would look at the United managerial position and want to see themselves doing what Alex Ferguson has done. I think it would have fit Mourinho. A place to call 'home'. I get the feeling that he's always really wanted that. Chelsea with the rocky relationship with Abramovic, Inter with the agenda and the board wanting him gone, the complete circus that is Real Madrid and their playing group that you would never be able to win over.

If you compare the playing groups and the structure of United and Chelsea even as a rival fan and in an attempt to be somewhat neutral; Would you want to manage at Chelsea?

edit: Incidentally the heraldry that Mourinho commands among the club and fans is nothing to be sneezed at as well.


But that is exactly what I'm saying. There is a difference between what you're saying (that Mourinho probably would have accepted the Man Utd job, a perfectly reasonable comment) and saying that Mourinho was desperate for the job, that his whole career was designed and sculpted to help him take over Man Utd one day, that he stood in silent awe for hours at Old Trafford once everyone else had gone etc etc.

We're not talking about Ian Holloway, we're talking about one of the best managers in the world.
 
To be fair to the resident chavs that's not true though. Much of the speculation came after the Madrid - United games and his praise for them afterwards.

Not saying there isn't any truth to the matter, mind, as I too believe he wouln't have hesitated if he had been offered the job at the time.

There are articles from 2010 claiming he had a Manchester United release clause put in his contract.
It might not be true but it's not a new press phenomenon here at all.
 
Why is it so important to establish that he was 'desperate' for the United job?

My dad is bigger is than your dad ... and my managerial job vacancy is bigger than your managerial job vacancy.