I'm the happy one. So, so cringe worthy 
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The press will turn on him easily if things aren't going right. Just like they did last time, but English football seems to have blotted that particular half-season out of existence.
Quite the display. Maureen handled himself alright - the journos should all go home and weep in embarrassment. Herd o' cattle if I ever saw one.
9th of May, eh? I'm certain we never offered him the job - but is it possible he (and/or Roman) thought he might get a call? I find that a bit odd if so. You'd think Fergie would've dropped him a hint at an earlier point. By the looks of it his chances were slim to nil all along.
9th of May, eh? I'm certain we never offered him the job - but is it possible he (and/or Roman) thought he might get a call? I find that a bit odd if so. You'd think Fergie would've dropped him a hint at an earlier point. By the looks of it his chances were slim to nil all along.
He can hardly say "yeah, we were talking for most of last season" and leave himself open to tapping up/engineering a departure allegations.
He told MUTV he wasn't going there before his "job interview" Real Madrid game. He has constantly said he will return to manage Chelsea. The assumption that he had coveted the United job barely has a quote to support it.
Anything to cushion the blow eh!
Let's be honest for a second. Most of you wanted Mourinho, most of you didn't want Moyes. That is a blow, no matter how some have rallied round the new man. The general consensus on here seemed to be (with a few exceptions) a collective groan as the news inched closer.
Some of the assumption and revisionism since (a la Red Issue's claims that Jose's people were jamming the OT switch board begging for an interview, claims which on the day nearly brought this place to a standstill) is quite laughable, a touch of the RAWK almost.
Blow to the fans but those in charge got who they wanted. I personally didn't want Mourinho for various reasons and think Moyes will prove to be a better fit. We don't know if he wanted the job or not but in all honesty how many still care?
I'd say it's just as laughable to imagine Mourinho didn't want the biggest job available.
He wouldn't say that, no. It's a bit strange he should mention that particular date, though. Unless he's just fecking with people - which I wouldn't rule out. Anyway, you have a point: The assumption that he has been after the United job as some kind of dream engagement has always struck me as a bit arrogant on the part of some United fans. It might be that he would've relished such a challenge - succeeding Fergie in the hot seat - at some point.
But I doubt he's crying himself to sleep over this. It was only a short while before the MUTV interview you mention that Charlton made his remarks about him - in short, I personally don't think he has been a candidate at all in recent history, and he has probably been well aware of this himself.
"I'm the happy one" .Not much in the way of a back page headline.
Not sure if he was begging for an interview with United but he certainly has previous in that regard. Mendes pretty much harassed Barca into giving him an interview after he was initially deemed unsuitable to place on the shortlist to replace Rijkaard. Ofcourse they ended up not picking him anyway.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Mendes tried to engineer atleast informal talks with the United board but given the close relations between Mendes and United I think he'd have known pretty quickly that United didn't fancy him too much. That's why we've never heard Maureen speak much about the job.
Quite a few United fans who seem to assume that he was desperate for the job - Red Issue's deranged tweets as an example.
Maybe he was desperate for the job, but it is all presumption and speculation. He actually came out and quite strongly said he couldn't see himself at United to Crerand.
Some sections of the media are pushing this "Chelsea were his second choice" angle (and I'm not saying they're wrong) but he has ALWAYS and repeatedly said he would be back to manage Chelsea one day, an ambition not exactly commensurate with the United job.
Rising sun seems to appear everytime anyone says anything about Mourinho maybe having wanted the United job. Literally within minutes.
That's a good point - didn't think of that. All the more likely Maureen would've been aware of United's stance. The board didn't want him - and that was that, whether Maureen himself was keen or not. If the Red Issue tale has any truth to it he must've been desperate indeed - so desperate that he threw all common sense out the window. I sort of doubt that, even though the man has appeared crazy enough as of late.
He may have wanted it, sure. At some point - most managers would, I'd think. Not because United are everyone's wet dream, but because succeeding Fergie would've appealed to most big guns, as something of an ultimate challenge. That doesn't mean he was in the actual running - nor that he deluded himself into thinking he was. It's a fine bonus for United fans - Maureen being snubbed and all, but I suspect it's very much an illusory one.
Let the Chelsea fans have this. Everyone knows how it ends with Mourinho. The only question is whether they win things before they implode.
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It's funny to see them so unbelievably smug right now.
It's funny to see them so unbelievably smug right now.
I'm convinced that he wanted the United job though (and not because I wanted him here either, he didnt get my vote in that redcafe poll), but Chelsea fans can't handle the fact, because they hold him in such high esteem, but its so blatantly obvious.
All his talk now about staying for a long time, using their young players and just making minor improvements to what's already there? Its clear to see he knows fully well why he was overlooked for this job.
Chelsea are likely to win things during his tenure, but its also likely that it'll be brief and he'll leave a trail of destruction in his wake. I believe this is what Fergie et al. wanted to avoid. Mourinho could have added trophies here but he also could have damaged what SAF left behind.
Only Chelsea fans would fight for Mourinho's affections. Made for each other. Can't buy class. Et cetera. The happy one, eh?We'll speak in two years time...
Looks like he's already made his first mistake by keeping Terry on as captain - he has long since outlived his usefulness to the club and now just brings poison and disgrace to them. Terry should be the first one out the door when a new manager takes over, as I'm sure TheRisingSun would agree 
We'll speak in two years time...
I wouldn't at all be surprised if it goes sour even before then. Roman is Roman and will not stop meddling, and Jose is Jose who loves a bit of controversy.
I really think Ancelotti was the best manager for them. A mild mannered guy who doesn't court as much controversy but keeps winning games.
Good thing they sacked him.
Why is it so difficult for people to accept that maybe, just maybe,Mourinho never wanted United's job and MU hierarchy never considered him for the post, anyway? Why does it always have to end up in an argument? Some caftards can't fathom an idea that a manager would prefer to work somewhere else rather than follow Ferguson's footsteps.
I personally think that Jose never wanted United's job, simply because whoever takes over from SAF will be forever compared to him and this is a battle you can never win. Jose is a lot of things, but he's not the type to live in somebody else's shadow. Mourinho's ego is too big for that and he's smart enough not to put himself in a no win situation. At CFC he's adored regardless, at United he'd be scrutinized and constantly compared to SAF.
I'm sure United's higher ups picked Moyes because he fits the profile of a manager who they see as someone capable of a long term team development, evolution rather than revolution. Jose is about himself first, Moyes is about the club he's at. In the end, everyone got what they wanted and we should all be happy.
I personally think that Jose never wanted United's job, simply because whoever takes over from SAF will be forever compared to him and this is a battle you can never win. Jose is a lot of things, but he's not the type to live in somebody else's shadow. Mourinho's ego is too big for that and he's smart enough not to put himself in a no win situation. At CFC he's adored regardless, at United he'd be scrutinized and constantly compared to SAF.
I'm sure United's higher ups picked Moyes because he fits the profile of a manager who they see as someone capable of a long term team development, evolution rather than revolution. Jose is about himself first, Moyes is about the club he's at. In the end, everyone got what they wanted and we should all be happy.
He will have the humming in no time. Hopefully he burns them out or has another huge fallout with Abramovic though.
This post is contradictory. Why did his big ego choose the safe tried and tested option then?
If you think for one second that Mourinho would shirk the challenge of being SAFs successor you're wrong. He didn't go to Madrid because there is no pressure there, quite the opposite. Mourinho wants to be the best, he wants to prove himself on the biggest stages at the biggest clubs world football. But he's had to settle for Chelsea and its unsurprising he's talking it up as all he wanted. Chelsea would not have been the next step in the evolutionary process you talk about for Jose. It's a backwards step. It's a step down from Madrid and a step backwards for Jose. Regression rather than progression.
Anyway it's my last post on the matter because its an endless debate which can be argued for or against indefinitely.
I agree with Antihenry to an extent, but surely his ego has taken a hit after 'failing' (relative) at the biggest job in club football.
It isn't exactly a RedCafe perception that Jose wanted the United job. The press have been saying it for years.
Manager of MU is the top job in English football so it would be odd if Mourinho hadn't been interested. If he'd been approached I'm sure we'd have heard of it by now.
The more I think about it the more I think MU got the right manager. Everything about OT is ultimately about the club with no individual being more important than the club itself....Mourhino would never fit into that.
It will make the PL interesting to have him around and I expect chelsea will have success with him.
The more I think about it the more I think MU got the right manager. Everything about OT is ultimately about the club with no individual being more important than the club itself....Mourhino would never fit into that.
It will make the PL interesting to have him around and I expect chelsea will have success with him.
Spot on.
Chelsea will be better than in the last few seasons with Mourinho in charge but he's lost that air of invincibility that he once had. I get the impression he's not going to have as big a budget as he's used to either, baring in mind he's going to be competing with City this time around, and their squad isn't all that at the moment.
The reason Di Matteo's announcement of being made full time manager was delayed for so long last season is that Mourinho was on the verge of signing a contract in the summer of 2012. This deal will have been tied up long ago, he hinted many times over the course of the season where he would be returning (before Ferguson retired) and poo-pooed links to Old Trafford in the MUTV interview with Crerand. I'm not saying that he wouldn't have been interested in the job, but some sections of the media and some United fans were absolutely convinced that his whole career was gearing up for the be all and end all of replacing Ferguson - without a scintilla of evidence to support it. He loves London, he owns a house here and his daughter is at college here. There are plenty of contributory factors other than "MUFC are MASSIVE - ergo he is desperate for the job".
It smacks of arrogance and assumptiveness to me.
It smacks of arrogance and assumptiveness to me.
And where is the evidence of him being on the verge of signing a contract in 2012? Or his deal being tied up long ago?
He doesn't love London, London loves him.
He didn't come to a country he loves, he came to a country he is loved by
The doesn't love the media, the media loves him
He didn't come to a club he loves, he came to a club he is loved by
I like him, he will make the league more entertaining. It would be interesting to see how long will Roman and his ego survive in juxtaposition this time around.
He didn't come to a country he loves, he came to a country he is loved by
The doesn't love the media, the media loves him
He didn't come to a club he loves, he came to a club he is loved by
I like him, he will make the league more entertaining. It would be interesting to see how long will Roman and his ego survive in juxtaposition this time around.
Why is there so much interest in which job he 'wanted if offered?'
For what its worth from every source i've read he always wanted to go back to Chelsea and never set United as a destination. Are some United fans actually taking that as some kind of insult?
From Eurosport today.
'The Times goes with his entirely unsurprising claim that he really did want the Chelsea job, not Manchester United.'
For what its worth from every source i've read he always wanted to go back to Chelsea and never set United as a destination. Are some United fans actually taking that as some kind of insult?
From Eurosport today.
'The Times goes with his entirely unsurprising claim that he really did want the Chelsea job, not Manchester United.'
Where did you hear/read that? Please don't say RI or that shit poll we had on here.
To be fair there was a lot of talk about Jose waiting untill SAF retired before finally setlling down to dig in at a club rather than constantly hopping around. It did get a little RAWKish too, with the planets aligning, the chosen one coming to the holy lands, the second best manager in world football replacing the number one. To be honest as well up until he joined us, I thought it was likely.
That's complete bollocks, Rob.
Ok I was joking with the plants aligning but I 100% definitely read the exact lines of people believing he would replace SAF and settle down at United and try to 'build a legacy.' That is absolutely not bollocks.
If anyone wonders why or complains about Jose having an ego they should look at this thread. We have Chelsea fans fawning over him ( including me), and precious to make sure United fans dont think he was going to join them, and United fans desperately trying to push the idea suddenly they didnt want him, with some unable to hide the fact that they really really wanted him.
We all fawn over him one way or another, and the more people protest too much that they dont the worse it gets. Ergo - Joses ego.
Found these on twatter:
Jose never tells lies.
Jose never tells lies.