Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager

Mourinho received a two match Copa del Rey only ban, for his red card. So he's still got two more games including one where he can wave goodbye to the Bernabeu. I'm sure there will be tears.
 
Ramon Calderon said on Talksport that Mourinho is the worst manager in the history of Real Madrid. He claimed that Mourinho brought shame on their great club with his behaviour.

He also said that Ronaldo might leave this summer but only PSG, Chealsea and City can afford him.
 
It's hard to take what Calderon says seriously, as it's somehow always a dig at Perez.
 
Can't say that I'm sad either. Not that I don't value competition, but I'd much rather a more civil kind of competition than Mourinho's antics. The Barca-Real relationship will probably get better now that he's leaving, meaning less nonsense on and off the pitch.

Let's hope so but I really doubt it.
 
Said like a proper Mourinho fan boy, you talk like he's the only competent manager in football. He's not been chosen and don't kid yourself, it wasn't a case of him turning us down, there so many flaws in the theory that he did and so many obvious signs that he craved the job. He didn't get it. The important thing for him and his supporters is to move on.
Haven't you heard Leroy? He went from the "Special One" to the self proclaimed title of "The Only One". There is nobody that comes close to him in the whole world. Ever.

I honestly think TheRisingSun will have a serious wake up call if he thinks Mourinho is going to walk the league next season at the helm of Chelsea.
 
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Seriously, where do you get people like these?

Well sorry, no manager lasts at your club. It's a circus, not a football club. Mourinho is a fantastic manager and he's proven this in Portugal, in England and in Italy. Your players are primadonnas and your presidents more interested in buying shiny new toys than building solid teams. How is any of this Mou's fault? He just refused to become a doormat for the likes of Casillas and Ramos.
 
Do you think Mourinho's spell with Madrid contributed to the fact that we chose Moyes over him in the end? I mean do you think he had a better chance if he came straight from Inter to us?

I do believe that Danny. This has put a stain on Mourinho's career and man management skills for me. It didn't make us look particularly good either, but I'm kind of being used to that by seeing Del Bosque sacked after his successful period. For me, he should have been our 'Fergie', that was probably the biggest mistake Real Madrid made in recent history.
 
Well sorry, no manager lasts at your club. It's a circus, not a football club. Mourinho is a fantastic manager and he's proven this in Portugal, in England and in Italy. Your players are primadonnas and your presidents more interested in buying shiny new toys than building solid teams. How is any of this Mou's fault? He just refused to become a doormat for the likes of Casillas and Ramos.

Part of what you say is true, but you're secretely in love with the guy so I can't take you seriously in this debate, sorry.

I mean, you are still getting wet at the thought of him while your club has appointed Moyes and The OnlySpecial One is about to sign for a rival team.

Wouldn't it be about time now for...like...you know... getting behind your manager? If that's so hard to do you can always order a Chelsea shirt for a few seasons, until he undoubtedly moves along again, then you can go back to supporting United?
 
I do believe that Danny. This has put a stain on Mourinho's career and man management skills for me. It didn't make us look particularly good either, but I'm kind of being used to that by seeing Del Bosque sacked after his successful period. For me, he should have been our 'Fergie', that was probably the biggest mistake Real Madrid made in recent history.

Why was he sacked anyway? He seemed to be doing a very good job and just won the league in 2003 before you got rid, as well as two Champions League titles in 4 seasons. I thought it was because you failed to win CL in 2003 but it's still pointless as you weren't that far off, lost 4-3 to a brilliant Juventus side with Nedved on agg in semis after knocking United out - it was a decent campaign.
 
Why was he sacked anyway? He seemed to be doing a very good job and just won the league in 2003 before you got rid, as well as two Champions League titles in 4 seasons. I thought it was because you failed to win CL in 2003 but it's still pointless as you weren't that far off, lost 4-3 to a brilliant Juventus side with Nedved on agg in semis after knocking United out - it was a decent campaign.
Because our club is runned by morons, basically.
 
With all the talk of Mourinho going to Chelsea, I wonder if he might instead want to go to a sugar-daddy less profilic club like Monaco/Anzhi or even PSG instead. He could win them the champions league and flame his ego even more, rather than going to Chelsea and having less gloss over any achievement.
 
With all the talk of Mourinho going to Chelsea, I wonder if he might instead want to go to a sugar-daddy less profilic club like Monaco/Anzhi or even PSG instead. He could win them the champions league and flame his ego even more, rather than going to Chelsea and having less gloss over any achievement.

He wants to go where he is 'loved' is what he said. I doubt he wants to prove himself more by going to France. There is no way in hell he is going to Russia. Plus he always says he loves England and wants to win a Champions League with an English team. Chelsea is his chance.
 
Wonder if he'll keep Lukaku? Can't understand the logic in sending him back out on loan when:

@OptaJoe 17 - Romelu Lukaku scored more goals than Chelsea's three strikers combined this season (Torres 8, Sturridge 1, Ba 2). Return.

Even if they brought in Falcao or any other prolific striker he'd be a better second option than any of Torres/Ba. Personally, whilst Ba is a good striker I don't think he suits Chelsea's playing style.
 
He's more or less operated on Bela Guttmann's three year rule since joining Porto.

Either he wins the CL in his first 3 seasons or he gets bombed out soon thereafter after falling out with the squad, and the team soon thereafter falls apart.

So yeah, be interesting to see how he does.
 
I think, and its only a hunch, that Mourinho probably thinks that short term-ism harmed his changes of landing the United job - nobody can convince me he didn't want it. I reckon he'll try to lay down roots at Chelsea in an attempt to show (not necessarily us but himself) that he can build teams over and over whilst staying competitive, that he can use the academy and that he can stay somewhere longer than three years. Whether or not he achieves it is another issue entirely, not just because of Jose's own inevitable controversies but also Roman's unrealistic expectations as an owner and his short sightedness. I think Mou will try to approach this one differently though.
 
So, Guardiola's first game will be the UEFA super cup and Mourinho will manage the opponent? I love football, full of crazy stories.

/edit:
just looked it up, it's on August, 30. Bundesliga starts 4 weeks earlier, so it's not that good of a story.
 
I think, and its only a hunch, that Mourinho probably thinks that short term-ism harmed his changes of landing the United job - nobody can convince me he didn't want it. I reckon he'll try to lay down roots at Chelsea in an attempt to show (not necessarily us but himself) that he can build teams over and over whilst staying competitive, that he can use the academy and that he can stay somewhere longer than three years. Whether or not he achieves it is another issue entirely, not just because of Jose's own inevitable controversies but also Roman's unrealistic expectations as an owner and his short sightedness. I think Mou will try to approach this one differently though.

:lol: I would tend to agree with the idea that the United job is a very attractive one for any top coach but I just honestly don't get how you can be so sure he was interested in the first place (unless I missed some secret info).
I'm amused by your 100% certainty
 
You can never be 100% certain, it's basically my opinion and hardly an outlandish one.
An opinion based on rumours of a United release clause in his contract, him saying a while back that he'd be interested in succeeding SAF, and his behaviour around our games against Madrid this season. Still just an opinion though regardless of how strong an opinion.
 
I wonder what people's reaction is going to be if he wins the PL next year with Chelsea and we only finish third behind Chelsea and City?

Will people demand Moyes head and complain about us going for him instead of Mou?

I have a good feeling they will.
 
I wonder what people's reaction is going to be if he wins the PL next year with Chelsea and we only finish third behind Chelsea and City?

Will people demand Moyes head and complain about us going for him instead of Mou?

I have a good feeling they will.

If we strenghten in midfield and struggle to win the league he will be criticized.
 
I wonder what people's reaction is going to be if he wins the PL next year with Chelsea and we only finish third behind Chelsea and City?

Will people demand Moyes head and complain about us going for him instead of Mou?

I have a good feeling they will.

Of course they will. It's not even a question. Even if we win the league people will probably call for Moyes head. The sensible few will give him enough time to accurately assess whether it was right choice or not but if Moyes loses his first match there will be a group who want him out.
 
Of course they will. It's not even a question. Even if we win the league people will probably call for Moyes head. The sensible few will give him enough time to accurately assess whether it was right choice or not but if Moyes loses his first match there will be a group who want him out.

:wenger:

Mou has always been my favourite manager to follow Fergie and I've maintained that position for more than five or six years. He's proven himself at the highest level and would have been a safer choice than Moyes, who is kind of a risk.

That said, I despise clubs that change their managers like normal people change their panties. I've always respected clubs like us, Arsenal or Werder with long manager spells. Moyes deserves a fair chance (which doesn't mean he can't be criticized) and I hope he will be a success at Old Trafford despite not being my favourite to follow Fergie.
 
I never really wanted him to come in if i'm being honest and I preferred Moyes to him in terms of keeping up with the club stood for. Mourinho loves a media circus and alienating other managers wherever he goes he does too much talking when he is not winning. Truth is nobody gets to spend as much as him so he should be expected to win titles. He is a winner if you want to win immediately at any cost bring him in but if you have a project and tradition he is not the man for me.
 
I'll back David Moyes all the way without question, but we should have got him. His personality is exactly what's needed at the club. For the first couple of years at least.
 
Signing a "xx-year contract", article dated Monday 3 June. I guess they've had this template sitting waiting for submittal for a while.

Certainly what it looks like.
 
Terrible news for United and Moyes. I can't see Moyes competing with Mourinho but I hope I am wrong.

I can see Mourinho having some of the best and most glorious years in his managerial careers the coming 3-5 years. Had Fergie not been at United when he was here the last time he would have had an absolutely ridiculous record here in England. He had one already - so that says quite a lot.
 
Terrible news for United and Moyes. I can't see Moyes competing with Mourinho but I hope I am wrong.

I can see Mourinho having some of the best and most glorious years in his managerial careers the coming 3-5 years. Had Fergie not been at United when he was here the last time he would have had an absolutely ridiculous record here in England. He had one already - so that says quite a lot.

So much drama.

Mourinho's a top manager and will make Chelsea very competetive once again.

It's one of the many challenges Moyes will have to contend with at United. Deal with it.
 
Chelsea could win a few PLs in a row now. Their whole squad will be lifted by his return, and it's an absolute dream for the media. Everyone will be hyping up "Mourinho Vs Moyes" with the expectation that Moyes can't hack it. This will be very difficult for our new manager, and you just know that a lot of United fans won't give him the time.
 
Is this The Shed End? FFS.
 
Chelsea could win a few PLs in a row now. Their whole squad will be lifted by his return, and it's an absolute dream for the media. Everyone will be hyping up "Mourinho Vs Moyes" with the expectation that Moyes can't hack it. This will be very difficult for our new manager, and you just know that a lot of United fans won't give him the time.

Teams have always been challenging United for major honours. Always will do. Weather it be Chelsea, Arsenal, Manchester City, Liverpool whoever, there's always been sides up there and that's the same every year. Chelsea will be there or there about's because they've got a good side and a good manager, but I'm still confident going into next season. The club have never avoided challenges and although Mourinho's a great manager, it's nothing knew.