About as arrogant and unsubstantiated that this bizarre opinion Londoners seem to have that every body wants to live there.
Mourinho | New old Chelsea manager
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About as arrogant and unsubstantiated that this bizarre opinion Londoners seem to have that every body wants to live there.
I am a self-confessed Mourinho fanboy. I think he's the fecking bollocks and whilst not the only manager in football, currently the best one around with a proven track record in Europe and in the Premiership.
That's just my opinion - it will be interesting to see this thread in a years time.
Benitez was only about 20 votes behind him
The man who your crazy owner appointed despite large scale protests from your fans.."20 votes behind him" - You know the Benitez votes were piss taking from some of the posters on here or are you thick?
A year won't tell us much, give it a few years and you will see why we went for someone like Moyes.
But aren't you concerned about the damage he might do to the club's repu...oh, forget it.
Why would he damage a club's reputation? I don't get it.
He means chelseas reputation was ruined a long long time ago.
Exactly.
*tips hat to Sparky*
*tips hat to Sparky*
Having to explain your jokes is always a joy on here!
It might help if my jokes were better.
Still, I wasn't the first-choice poster; the Caf wanted rimaldo, and I only got 20% more votes than Rafa.Hey I was just giving my opinion on things. Unless you're an insider you would not know things for certain. Are you one of those who wanted Jose to be at OT? I have never wanted him so I am happy it's someone else. Moyes is our manager and we support him. But I am on a thread of Mourinho so obviously I would be talking about him on his prospect of joining the PL.
I've stopped "white texting" or adding s to mine. I don't want to get a laugh from the people who don't find me instantly hilarious.
s to mine. I don't want to get a laugh from the people who don't find me instantly hilarious.I got that joke but I don't get why Mourinho would destroy Chelsea's reputation if it wasn't already destroyed. Maureen is a drama queen but he's also respected.
I could tolerate Mourinho much more if it wasn't for the nauseatingly love-sick coverage he gets in newspapers.
Doh.
Everyone said:
Doh.
No. I think the club bought into the idea that Mourinho was damaging the brand, in fact he was the best thing the "brand" at that time could've had. He was globally recognisable, charismatic and highly successful.
We will be hated no matter what we do - might as well win trophies doing it.
After all these arguments, it would be funny if Mourinho doesn't even end up at Chelsea.
mourinho for fulham!
What is the Caf's verdict on his tenure at Real, then?
For me it would have to be described as a success - he toppled a record-breaking Barca side, at least for one season. Even though he didn't win the CL, he proved that he's a man that will cherish the challenge that's put at his feet.
You have to remember what he went up against, even with virtually unlimited spending power.
For me it would have to be described as a success - he toppled a record-breaking Barca side, at least for one season. Even though he didn't win the CL, he proved that he's a man that will cherish the challenge that's put at his feet.
You have to remember what he went up against, even with virtually unlimited spending power.
He took them to 3 consecutive semi-finals. He had them there or thereabouts. The margins at that level are fine. Also an enviable win % record and reigning in Barca, the "best club team of all time" whilst at their peak with a record points total.
There seems to be a bit of revisionism that his tenure there has been a failure - not for me.
Neither for me. It also can't be easy to handle those powerful primadonnas at Real who are used to treat their managers like doormats and throw their toys of their prams whenever things don't go their own ways.
He's done alright but evidently it wasn't enough. Barca were there for the taking once more. Similar tale in La Liga to what got Mancini the sack this year.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Real_Madrid_C.F._managers
I think this list puts his tenure in perspective. Their third longest serving manager in the history of the club (in terms of games), and second to pellegrini in terms of win percentage (Pellegrini had 75% in one season, Mourinho had 72.5%). Brought in a few trophies as well, although he didn't manage to win the champions league. Can't call it a failure looking at those stats.
I think this list puts his tenure in perspective. Their third longest serving manager in the history of the club (in terms of games), and second to pellegrini in terms of win percentage (Pellegrini had 75% in one season, Mourinho had 72.5%). Brought in a few trophies as well, although he didn't manage to win the champions league. Can't call it a failure looking at those stats.
Good grief. He hardly had time to take his famous coat off, yet he's the third longest-serving manager in Real's history...
I think his first season no one expected him to win the league. He did in the second season and did well in the CL. Up til then, I think his record with Real was good. However, things turned sour, in my opinion, in the third year: their record in the league is pretty poor considering the talent he has at his disposal, he got to the Copa del Rey final but lost (that happens) and I think he's to blame for their CL exit. Dortmund are worthy finalists, but Madrid were destroyed at the Signal Iduna Park, largely due to bad tactics by Mourinho I think. They didn't seem prepared at all, seemed deflated and didn't react properly. Basically, I think that his first two years were good, and the third was very poor (and that's not even taking into account all the dressing room mess he's leaving).
Probably says more about Madrid then it says about him really. They sacked Pellegrini after a season where they had a 75% win success rate
Saw a good summary on reddit about his 3 years at Madrid, and his accomplishments. The 3 years prior to him, they only got to the round of 16 in the champions league, meanwhile the 3 years with him they got to the semi's every time. He did better in the copa del rey then his predecessors, and did very well in the league (apart from this season). His only real set back was a relative lack of big trophies. He won 2 in his 3 years, which is disappointing for his standards. Compared to past Madrid managers though, the best was 14 in 16 years, and Vicente del Bosque had 4 in 4 years. I think it's just a ridiculously difficult job to take, especially when you have a team like the one Barcelona had to compete with.
Mourinho's 2nd season at Madrid was a huge success. He caught up with Barca who had been pummeling Real in the league and in their head-to-heads for
This season has been a bit of a disaster for Jose though. 19 points less in the league than last season, and 13 behind Barcelona.
CLs are a more of a lottery so it's hard to judge based solely on the record there.
This season has been a bit of a disaster for Jose though. 19 points less in the league than last season, and 13 behind Barcelona.
CLs are a more of a lottery so it's hard to judge based solely on the record there.
Yeah, it's true that the narrative has changed from 'Mighty José - Conqueror of Barca!'
to 'Crap Mou smells of Poo...and his Hair's going grey Too'.
to 'Crap Mou smells of Poo...and his Hair's going grey Too'.
I hope so, if Moyes is still around in a few years it means we'd have done okay.
It is quite crazy isnt it?! It does show the difference in cultures though. If you look at other spanish clubs he would also be top 5 with that number of games will he would be number 8 for Manchester United.
I do think its more relevant to see number of seasons/months instead though. The 'modern game' has many more fixtures.
United feared Mourinho 'instability'
By Miguel Delaney
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1455979/man-united-feared-jose-mourinho-instability?cc=5739
By Miguel Delaney
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1455979/man-united-feared-jose-mourinho-instability?cc=5739
I wouldn't be surprised if that were true. I have a feeling Mourinho would have come here, but I think Fergie wanted to hand over to someone who will build a legacy here.
I wouldn't put it past him to feel slighted by Man Utd and go to Chelsea to try and stop Moyes winning anything.
Or maybe we brought someone for the transition period so that one day the Special One can start his long era at United.
Do you think Mourinho's spell with Madrid contributed to the fact that we chose Moyes over him in the end? I mean do you think he had a better chance if he came straight from Inter to us?
I think it's fairly safe to assume we didn't approach Mourinho because of how potentially unstable an appointment he'd be.
In retrospect, it seemed like the continuity issue was the main reason Moyes was selected. The board and Fergie wanted someone who had length of tenure, youth development, and similar characteristics over someone who had won trophies.
Will be interesting to see on who last longer, Mou at Chelsea, or Pep at Munich. Both clubs aren't famous for their patient owner/boards. Although Pep has the upper hand with managing stronger team (so trophies are more likely to get), but he'd manage a (potential) treble winner team next season, and where to go from there? While Chelsea is 3rd in the league, and with more transfer fund, the most probable way is going up for Mou.